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Bratag 2009-12-02 15:52
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405049)
You can find the ssh, client and server, in the repository.


On another note, I just discovered that for some reason I can't "chmod +x file.pl"

User doesnt gain execute permissions. Hmmm.
Download chroot and sudo gainroot and you should be golden

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 15:54
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
We use an IPSEC VPN, cisco.

You can probably link up to an SSL based VPN using OpenVPN, which vpnc (can get off the devel repositories) also supports. If you get the vpnc-gui, it's all pretty plug and play type stuff, very nice.

rash.m2k 2009-12-02 15:58
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405085)
We use an IPSEC VPN, cisco.

You can probably link up to an SSL based VPN using OpenVPN, which vpnc (can get off the devel repositories) also supports. If you get the vpnc-gui, it's all pretty plug and play type stuff, very nice.
Hi,

Could you please dump the output of fdisk -l here? I'd like to see the partition setup on the N900.

Neegs 2009-12-02 15:59
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404960)
The more I play with my phone and the more I read others complaining about crap like MMS and twitter, the more I want to point them elsewhere.

This is a fluke meter for techies folks.

If you don't know what a Fluke device is, you probably shouldn't own this phone either. I guess that about sums it up.

It's a Linux box.. with a phone.

It's not a phone, with "some OS" on it.

If you don't know how to even check your phones uptime, you probably shouldn't own it. This phone is definitely targeted for people who really do some serious IT work.
You should maybe pass your opinions onto the Nokia staff that are selling the phone. Not Carphone warehouse or phones4u but the staff member i spoke to in the nokia store in Heathrow. while inquiring about the phone not once did he say this is aimed towards the techies. it was sell sell sell (as expected from a salesman) He let me have a play and then took my details so when i next pass through hopefully soon i can pick one up

if nokia have been so clear that this is not for the mainstream community they need this information to filter down to their lower staff. people can harp on all they want about this is a techy phone dont buy it bla bla bla bla but if a nokia representative will not even let you know its a techy phone what chance does any average joe got. they will not read press releases from nokia or go on forums to check that the phone they have seen isnt just for techies :rolleyes:

I can hear "well he is a salesman what do u expect?". i dont expect a nokia salesman to sell a "It's a Linux box.. with a phone" as a phone. for them to then come on here voice how disappointed they are and then get shot down in flames.

what Nokia had planned and what Nokia are selling seem to be two very different things. as someone has already said a lot of people are going to buy this and be very disappointed and take it back or resell. This you can all agree is neither good for Nokia the N900 or Maemo5

stobbsc 2009-12-02 16:02
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
GOD, This device is not for you...

This device is for techies and people who like gadgets and coding and messing around with tech stuff...
To be honest, everyone who knows what the N900 is knows that. I mean my father even knows that...

rash.m2k 2009-12-02 16:02
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
There is stuff like MMS missing - BUT IT WILL BE HERE SOON!

Why don't people show a little patience and wait a short while, Nokia will have it soon.

Its not like Apple where only when the 3GS came out they added MMS!! Even now it's lacking proper full bluetooth support.

Bratag 2009-12-02 16:04
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neegs (Post 405110)
You should maybe pass your opinions onto the Nokia staff that are selling the phone. Not Carphone warehouse or phones4u but the staff member i spoke to in the nokia store in Heathrow. while inquiring about the phone not once did he say this is aimed towards the techies. it was sell sell sell (as expected from a salesman) He let me have a play and then took my details so when i next pass through hopefully soon i can pick one up

if nokia have been so clear that this is not for the mainstream community they need this information to filter down to their lower staff. people can harp on all they want about this is a techy phone dont buy it bla bla bla bla but if a nokia representative will not even let you know its a techy phone what chance does any average joe got. they will not read press releases from nokia or go on forums to check that the phone they have seen isnt just for techies :rolleyes:

I can hear "well he is a salesman what do u expect?". i dont expect a nokia salesman to sell a "It's a Linux box.. with a phone" as a phone. for them to then come on here voice how disappointed they are and then get shot down in flames.

what Nokia had planned and what Nokia are selling seem to be two very different things. as someone has already said a lot of people are going to buy this and be very disappointed and take it back or resell. This you can all agree is neither good for Nokia the N900 or Maemo5
Um maybe because he was a salesman?. If you buy a device based entirely on the sales pitch of a guy who GETS PAID TO SELL PHONES, then .... words fail me.

Do some damn research, I realize that may involve some actual effort on your part - but hey try it this once - you might like it.

roundyz 2009-12-02 16:04
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 404878)
1: MMS (it's a very useful feature & in my case I get them from my girlfriend, so I'd expect it to have it)

2: Portrait (there'll be some portrait coming soon, but not enough for me & the day-to-day end-user)

3: It lacks phone functionalities, which normal users look for now a days. So Nokia failed at that aspect, it's just a better N810

4: No Navigator and stand-alone number keys which makes the physical full QWERTY keyboard less usable.

5: Reduced screen size comparing with N810 and the battery is a lot bit too small for this kind device.

6: Lack of Capacitive screen + with multitouch (it's a step back in technology, at least to the normal users)

Over-all, the device is a powerful machine, but it just doesn't bring it to todays expectations. The freedom + power isn't enough to sell to those people who expect more phone-power (yes, I know, phone second, etc, etc....still disappointing for most people looking for an all-in-one device)
I'd only recommend it to techies.
What I found that I was unable to do, was to send events from the calendar over email/etc using vcard or vcalendar.

Did I miss this somehow?

roundyz 2009-12-02 16:06
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 405078)
Download chroot and sudo gainroot and you should be golden
mydocs is mounted noexec. Found this out myself today.

Bratag 2009-12-02 16:06
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roundyz (Post 405132)
mydocs is mounted noexec. Found this out myself today.
Really? Well bugger me :). Wonder why

JaMa 2009-12-02 16:07
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405085)
We use an IPSEC VPN, cisco.

You can probably link up to an SSL based VPN using OpenVPN, which vpnc (can get off the devel repositories) also supports. If you get the vpnc-gui, it's all pretty plug and play type stuff, very nice.
Truly Awesome. I know there is a port of the Juniper Network Connect app that is pushed when you log into the box the first time as well and it works fine here on my Ubuntu box, so I am guessing I can phenagle it to work on the N900 as well.

I totally agree with all the people who say this is for techies - I love the Fluke meter comment, classic.

Thanks again

J

jcompagner 2009-12-02 16:10
Re: N900 Review: What Needs Improving
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RTbar (Post 404124)
- Make the backspace key a universal back button. It will take you one space back from wherever you are, or take you back to the home screen. The backspace key is perfectly located for this, and would make it function just like the Motorola Droid.
this could be a bit confusing for users if an application (like text entry does use it)
for example i want the browser to use that key to go back instead of the SHIFT-Backspace...

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTbar (Post 404124)
- Make the shift key bring up the multi-task menu. As far as I know, the shift key doesn't do anything outside of a text entry field, so why not let the shift key also multi task when not on a text field? A long press could bring you to the home screen.
CTRL-Backspace does bring up the task screen.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RTbar (Post 404124)
-Improve phone. Yeah i know phone second, step 4 of 5 bla bla... the bottom line is that most people are going to be sorely dissapointed by the phone aspect.
what should exactly be improved?
it would be good to tell what points would make an improvement
The phone app is pretty decent if you ask me
i only have 1 request:
If i have a number that is not in the contacts but is in the call list, i have an option to sms. But a known contact/telephone number that is in the call list i suddenly don't have the option to sms it. I really have to open the contact card and then press sms.

HangLoose 2009-12-02 16:15
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Did I mention that we should just praise the device? I even mentioned the place where you could go to give constructive feedback. People really get offended if someone points out a better way to do things... gosh.

It's really easy to stigmatize someone as a fanboy and blind oneself from the truth that, actually, your post, was just nothing compared to what you could have achieved if you would have actually said things in the right place.

My suggestion still applies, instead of being a useless ranting teenager go out there and make some difference my friend. :o

Leave the thread?! Oh boy, are you actually suggesting me to do something useful? I'll leave the thread and contribute to the forum not getting even more stupid stuff as long as you contribute to Maemo with your ideas okay?

If not, we will continue arguing like 2 little girls...

MaemoCurmudgeon 2009-12-02 16:18
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404884)
Well I've NEVER listened to music heavily on phones, or given a **** about pictures and facebook and all that crap.

I call that stuff "Sheepware", stuff that everyone does which to me is a waste of time. If a phone can't vpn, ssh, telnet, ping, df, ls, vi, |, <, >, then I don't want it.

Which means I've never wanted a phone until now. :D
GOOD ON YOU MATE! This ladies and gentelmen is a man who understands that technology is about appropriate use and creativity. Thank you for demonstrating the potential of the device.

sljonson 2009-12-02 16:22
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405049)
On another note, I just discovered that for some reason I can't "chmod +x file.pl"

User doesnt gain execute permissions. Hmmm.
/home/user/MyDocs/ is a FAT file system, you can't chmod in it. /home/opt is an EXT3 fs so that's probably better suited for coding. Create a directory owned by user, and you should be golden. Or you might format your microSD card as ext3. But the would remove the ability for it to be usable in mass storage mode when connected to a PC.

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 16:25
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 405189)
/home/user/MyDocs/ is a FAT file system, you can't chmod in it. /home/opt is an EXT3 fs so that's probably better suited for coding. Create a directory owned by user, and you should be golden. Or you might format your microSD card as ext3. But the would remove the ability for it to be usable in mass storage mode when connected to a PC.

Got it fixed. Didn't realize it was mounted noexec so it's moved elsewhere. I am now hosting a webpage off my N900. :D

TA-t3 2009-12-02 16:26
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Hm. Sheepware. I like it. Not the sheepware, but the expression. Got all the time-wasting stuff sorted into one bag.

My use-case will be more in line with the OP's.

God 2009-12-02 16:27
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 405124)
GOD, This device is not for you...

This device is for techies and people who like gadgets and coding and messing around with tech stuff...
To be honest, everyone who knows what the N900 is knows that. I mean my father even knows that...
What brings you to judge whether I have the knowledge to "code and mess around"? I think I'll decide if it's appropriate for me or not. I'm just stating the points out (not necessarily on a person belief). If you look at the N900, & how it gets advertised on carrier magazines (at least in my country) you'd think it would contain a bit more of the phone-functionality which 2009 offers on other devices. It's just a shame imo. It could have been the killer of all killers. Geeks = Happy, Newbs = Happy = Nokia VERY Happy.

Bratag 2009-12-02 16:27
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405199)
Got it fixed. Didn't realize it was mounted noexec so it's moved elsewhere. I am now hosting a webpage off my N900. :D
THAT IS AWESOME!

Whats the URL :)

PS: Please dont give out the URL or you know your N900 is going to take a header as everyone hits it.

Bratag 2009-12-02 16:29
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 405203)
What brings you to judge whether I have the knowledge to "code and mess around"? I think I'll decide if it's appropriate for me or not. I'm just stating the points out (not necessarily on a person belief). If you look at the N900, & how it gets advertised on carrier magazines (at least in my country) you'd think it would contain a bit more of the phone-functionality which 2009 offers on other devices. It's just a shame imo. It could have been the killer of all killers. Geeks = Happy, Newbs = Happy = Nokia VERY Happy.
Because I believe advertising implicitly - did you know its possible to "enhance my manhood", its true - I saw an advert last night on TV for this product called eXtenze. I mean they have sold over a billion pills so it must be awesome.

sljonson 2009-12-02 16:33
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 405125)
There is stuff like MMS missing - BUT IT WILL BE HERE SOON!

Why don't people show a little patience and wait a short while, Nokia will have it soon.

Its not like Apple where only when the 3GS came out they added MMS!! Even now it's lacking proper full bluetooth support.
The N900 and Maemo is a new OS platform for Nokia's phone. It don't have the legacy of many man-years of code development the rest of the N series and other phones have. They why it's missing things like Voice Dialing, MMS, etc. Nokia is having to develop a new phone virtually from scratch. They needed to make compromises in the phone's feature set so they could get it out the door now instead of 201X. New feature are coming. We just need to give it some time.

stobbsc 2009-12-02 16:39
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
I agree that patience is the key point here. I'm just looking forward to sharing my amazing day experience like the OP did :-)
I also think that this phone is going to be my primary device for a very long time to come, just like my N95 8gig was

Neegs 2009-12-02 16:40
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 405128)
Um maybe because he was a salesman?. If you buy a device based entirely on the sales pitch of a guy who GETS PAID TO SELL PHONES, then .... words fail me.

Do some damn research, I realize that may involve some actual effort on your part - but hey try it this once - you might like it.
lol i have done my research hence why i am talking to you. My contract was up in september but have been looking into new phones since and found the N900. i may only have a few posts but i have been following this forum for months soaking up as much about the N900 as pos. I like the phone even with its limitations and feel it has LOADS of potential and want one.

i simply feel that for nokia to say this is step 4 of 5, this isnt for everyone but then sell it as if it is the complete package is laughable. No i dont expect them to openly say hey buy my phone but it cant do x y and z if you need these go to a competitor.

my point was that people returning the phone would be bad for maemo5. step 4 of 5 my *** its being sold as a smartphone. i also think there are millions of people in the world that buy phones based on 1 using the phone in store and 2 the salesperson, otherwise why have a salesperson at all. if theses millions of people then decide to take it back (ever so slight exaggeration :D) oh great that looks brilliant doesnt it.

Maemo6 is what Nokia want for the public correct. Well if the public think Maemo5 is crap why would they think about Maemo6. the N97 automatically gave the N900 a bad name without people even knowing its completely different. If the public dont like it then less commercial apps, open source i no but i am assuming nokia would like some commercial apps to go to the platform even if techies dont give a crap. less commercial apps even less interest by the public.

Great phone but its being missold :rolleyes:

DaveP1 2009-12-02 16:44
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 405161)
Did I mention that we should just praise the device? I even mentioned the place where you could go to give constructive feedback. People really get offended if someone points out a better way to do things... gosh.
No you didn't mention that we should just praise the device, you only said that we shouldn't criticize the device in the N900 forum. One wonders, however, if we shouldn't create a brainstorm "My N900 is Great" and get all those posts out of the forums as well.

If new users want to talk to the community about their N900, why shouldn't they be able to talk about the N900 in the N900 section of Talk?

aironeous 2009-12-02 16:44
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Car crash app for droid wondering if maybe it can be done for maemo also
https://slideme.org/application/bemeblackbox

Bratag 2009-12-02 16:47
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 405254)
Car crash app for droid wondering if maybe it can be done for maemo also
https://slideme.org/application/bemeblackbox
I question how useful a car crash app is that you need to press save in order to have it save. Not sure there is going to be a lot of time during a crash.

On another note - don't hijack threads.

Gadgety 2009-12-02 16:51
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 405225)
The N900 and Maemo is a new OS platform for Nokia's phone. It don't have the legacy of many man-years of code development the rest of the N series and other phones have. They why it's missing things like Voice Dialing, MMS, etc. Nokia is having to develop a new phone virtually from scratch. They needed to make compromises in the phone's feature set so they could get it out the door now instead of 201X. New feature are coming. We just need to give it some time.
Of course you are right. This is the explanation. What I would appreciate from Nokia is some kind of a roadmap "by Q2 2010 you'll have voice dialing," and so on.

Nokia isn't prone to those type of specific statements, but if they're planning all that stuff, and if they are true to the statements Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo made to the financial community today that "we will execute," well, then they can only stand to gain by clearly mapping out what I as a consumer can expect in terms of updates.

BTW I find this thread excellent for showing the potential and what's possible with the N900 in terms of it being a mobile computer. Still, I think it could be merged with other similar threads.

daperl 2009-12-02 17:03
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
God, you're obviously upset, but you also seem kind of jealous. You've made such an a*s of yourself since you've been here that I get the feeling you've just decided to throw caution to the wind and light yourself on fire. In my opinion, you should have just said, I'll just wait till they iron out the kinks. Again, it took Apple 2 years to implement MMS. Patience is a virtue; get yourself some. In the meantime, maybe you should stop posting in happy threads like this 'cause I get the feeling you're heading to that bad place again. And next time it will probably be more like 40 days and nights.

Fargus 2009-12-02 17:08
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 404878)
1: MMS (it's a very useful feature & in my case I get them from my girlfriend, so I'd expect it to have it)

2: Portrait (there'll be some portrait coming soon, but not enough for me & the day-to-day end-user)

3: It lacks phone functionalities, which normal users look for now a days. So Nokia failed at that aspect, it's just a better N810

4: No Navigator and stand-alone number keys which makes the physical full QWERTY keyboard less usable.

5: Reduced screen size comparing with N810 and the battery is a lot bit too small for this kind device.

6: Lack of Capacitive screen + with multitouch (it's a step back in technology, at least to the normal users)

Over-all, the device is a powerful machine, but it just doesn't bring it to todays expectations. The freedom + power isn't enough to sell to those people who expect more phone-power (yes, I know, phone second, etc, etc....still disappointing for most people looking for an all-in-one device)
I'd only recommend it to techies.
1. MMS - Most operators will pass a link to their download server so you can still receive them but requires a click to do so.

2. Portrait - Would be nice for some things but I still manage a lot single handed with this once on.

3. Well I thought it was supposed to be a better N810 - N770->N800->N810->N900.

4. None of the previous tablets had seperate number keys so would have to be a LOT bigger or microscopic keys. The lack of a navigation device can be awkward for certain use cases but with a touch screen what is really restricted here?

5. Bigger screen would have been nice. I liked the N810 format too but I'm getting used to this as well. Battery life on a lot of cellular devices is not so good but I get at least a heavy days' usage out of it. I tend to be paranoid though so extra battery fully charge lives in my pocket. Nice and slim so no issues there.

6. Capative screen is really a question of choice. I find the screen on the N900 is plenty responsive enough and even know a few people that now hate capactive due to being too sensitive. Multi touch is nice for somethings but then that would ruin the single handed use you mentioned earlier surely?

phedders 2009-12-02 17:08
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Thats exactly my use case... been waiting for this phone for years!!!!

Fargus 2009-12-02 17:14
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phi (Post 404888)
You asked for it :p

I try to sync my Google services (contacts, mail, calendar) via Exchange and it fails.

I can sync the contacts & calendar via Exchange occasionally but that means I then can't sync my work email up. (Maemo 5 at the moment does not support multiple exchange accounts)

Gmail via IMAP is incredibly slow. This is due to a bug that if you have a very large Inbox, it tries to process the whole thing.

I'd like to fire up my twitter app and get @ notifications when they come in, but OH WAIT, there IS NO twitter app that would do such a thing.

I'd like to set different phone profiles based on work location & home, and even when I'm asleep except right now there are 2 Profiles. Vibrate or Normal...That's it.

It would also be nice to set specific ringtones for contacts...but wait, I can't do that either.

I got a text message, I'd love to just whip it out and answer the text message with one hand by using an onscreen keyboard with possibly T9....but I can't.

These are what I would consider some normal use cases. Obviously the N900 is a small computer first and phone second. I would not consider it a true mobile device since it doesn't really cater to the fact that you have to have 2 hands to use the device. You can't just be walking down the street, pause, take out your phone with one hand, and do something with it. Nor can it handle things like email that easily, although every other device out there on the market has overcome most of the issues that come from just opening up an email.

Its not a phone, I get it, but its not really a true mobile device beyond the fact that you can sort of stuff it into your pocket.
Multiple profiles would be really useful - not just work but on the train and in the car etceteras. I left the volume on high whilst out walking then when I got in the car and connected to the car kit nearly blew my ears out! LOL.

Specific ringtones for contacts - what about for groups too? This is an S60 feature that I quite miss as well to be honest. Along with other group processing such as only ring for certain groups in certain profiles.

I used to use two hands with my candybar phone but then I had a QWERTY keyboard on that too. Solved a lot of aching thumb joints from the numeric keypad entry days. Understand your desire but think that down to preference really. Not all phones can do this either.

Regarding the email - mine syncs up to just over a 1K mailbox quite happily. Helps if you have folders to organise things though but even a desktop has issues with very large inboxes. Maybe network link being throttled somewhere?

NSchuyler 2009-12-02 17:30
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Where I stand on this whole Techie/Noob/casual user is this: This phone is freedom, and it is a challenge. I have just recently begun pursuing Linux. I want to achieve the level of knowledge that some of you have with computers. This phone/computer will give me the opportunity to push myself as far as I want to go into this realm, whereas with other devices it is simply not an option.

This notion is so appealing to me that I am willing to take a wait and see approach to whether or not some of the basic things are eventually provided for. I'm not buying the N900 for MMS or Google applications... would I like to see them on there? Hell yeah, but I am more excited to learn more about linux and see what people I admire can do with this phone (and learn something about how to do things or at least understand what they do).


The N900 is not just for techies, it is for aspiring techies, and people who simply want as much freedom as is available in the mobile handset market at the moment imho.

I know better than to whine about what it lacks (wine? :p) and if it lacks something that I cannot bear to live without and I need the money or cannot wait to see it implemented or learn to implement it myself? I'll sell it.

Simple. :D

Ah, now if only I could get it.....

Barts 2009-12-02 17:46
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
i'm a complete novice and have no idea what most of you are on about, this phone can do so many things that i would never use and seems to not be able to do things that i can do on my Iphone. But i don't care, i'm buying one anyway, the web in my pocket is all i care about, as long as i cand send texts and recieve/make calls, don't particularly give a damn about custom ring tones or mms, i've used mms about twice in 4 years. I'm really intruiged about the community side of it too, and hopefully i'll get to grips with what the phone is capable of doing, even though i'm no techie/ I have music, video capabilities, camera, full proper web browsing. with a phone (it's only my wife that calls me anyway), what more could you ask for!!, apart from 100,000 apps, of which 98,000 aren't downloaded :p

thinh 2009-12-02 17:51
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
oh boy, ur really gonna get flame from the n900 fanboy for calling it a phone so many times lol.

i think u got some really good idea thanks for sharing, i do agree some people here are way to sensitive about the n900 gees....

Bratag 2009-12-02 17:51
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barts (Post 405421)
i'm a complete novice and have no idea what most of you are on about, this phone can do so many things that i would never use and seems to not be able to do things that i can do on my Iphone. But i don't care, i'm buying one anyway, the web in my pocket is all i care about, as long as i cand send texts and recieve/make calls, don't particularly give a damn about custom ring tones or mms, i've used mms about twice in 4 years. I'm really intruiged about the community side of it too, and hopefully i'll get to grips with what the phone is capable of doing, even though i'm no techie/ I have music, video capabilities, camera, full proper web browsing. with a phone (it's only my wife that calls me anyway), what more could you ask for!!, apart from 100,000 apps, of which 98,000 aren't downloaded :p
Welcome to the forums Bart. You are a prime example of what happens when you don't just rush out and buy a device because its "shiny". You have obviously done your research and are aware of the shortcomings/benefits of the device and for you its a good fit.

I think that you will be happy and trust me - dozens if not hundreds of people are busily beavering away to get you those 100,000 apps - even if they are just ports of existing linux apps.

GeraldKo 2009-12-02 17:52
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Barts,

I think you're going to have fun. I bought my N800 solely so I could travel abroad with something really small that gave me good web access, an eBook reader, and Skype. I'd never used Linux (though I'm the go-to guy among friends and family for the kinds of problems typical personal computer users have). And I've had a ball for two years learning this and that on the forum and making the N800 do all kinds of things. You have the right attitude to really enjoy it.

HangLoose 2009-12-02 17:57
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Boy, you guys are giving me free entertainment... :)

First of all "God", thanks for the brain link. Was this the place that you found yours? If so I will pass... Your signature gives me bad vibes about your intelligence. (and its not funny)

Didnt know that you needed this "extensive review" to make up your mind... good for you man.

@DaveP1 I didnt say that no one should criticize the device either what I said is that there are PLACES to make constructive criticism in form of bug reports or whatever... And yes, the "I am very happy with my N900 cos..." should also not be posted either. Otherwise, this forum will be just "reviews" and "rants".

And useless posts like "God"'s. Have you met him? Funny guy, not very lucky with da l4dies though. :rolleyes:

Laughing Man 2009-12-02 18:25
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 404878)
3: It lacks phone functionalities, which normal users look for now a days. So Nokia failed at that aspect, it's just a better N810
Pretty much, hence if your looking for a phone, it's better to look elsewhere now and check in with Maemo once Maemo 6 comes out.

wire-less 2009-12-02 18:28
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 404954)
I love this device and want to adopt it as part of the family, but the freakin' GPRS signal for weaker areas is sucky.

If you live in a good coverage area and do not plan on driving in weak areas, there is no better device.

But the N900 is a netbook with phone function. Not a phone.
I've better Signal with N900. May be it's frequency-dependent.
I use E+ in Germany. I think it's 1800 MHz.

Texrat 2009-12-02 18:36
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Laughingstock, you bring up a very good point.

Blackberries are more the target for N900 aspirations than iPhones. If the N900 can gain corporate interest and then adoption, local IT staff can insulate average users from the device complexities.

The N900 is more of a step up from Blackberries than iPhones. This thread just drove that home for me.


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