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Laughingstok 2009-12-02 18:43
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Just an update, one thing I DO wish this phone had..

An easy hang-up button, either using the power button as a hang up button when talking or whatever.. I was just on a conference call with the phone and it worked brilliantly. At the same time I received two SMS messages from my wife which I was able to reply to real time because I had the phone on speaker. When it was time to hang up, I had to fumble around to get back to the phone app so I could hang up. :D

Probably sounded funny to the others on the call.

"Alright guys, just call me if you need anything else.."
"Thanks Sean.."
*sound of fumbling and struggling*
*click*

haha

Laughing Man 2009-12-02 18:46
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
I believe you can exit out of applications in the multi-task view (the expose/scale like view that shows all windows). But it's hard to hit a tiny X in that view.

iJanne 2009-12-02 18:53
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Nokia N900 is a mobile computer. Those expecting it to have consumer-smartphone features will be disappoined because Nokia said from the get-go it would not have all of that - Maemo 6 will be the earliest targeted at the smartphone market. This one is a mobile computer with phone functionality, not the other way around.

I can see this fact irritates some people, but it is still a fact. Sure, Nokia is late with a Maemo smartphone, but what N900 is and was always supposed to be is a mobile computer. Next round was announced to be ready for smartphone use.

Of course, hopefully N900 will get more and more features as times goes by and Maemo matures, but N900 was launched as it was announced - no question about it. Some ignorant people (and Nokia salespeople too for sure) just mud the issue.

Anyone in doubt should check the N900 spec sheet from Nokia:

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

They don't even mention the phone other than in the small print...

And before anyone goes "but they list it under phones" on their website, well they do and that's stupid (while not techically incorrect since the N900 does have phone capabilities), because they also list the N810 there which has no GSM/3G module.

daperl 2009-12-02 19:04
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405535)
"Alright guys, just call me if you need anything else.."
"Thanks Sean.."
*sound of fumbling and struggling*
*click*

haha
There's a commercial in there somewhere. Texrat and I have been on the same page here; even though I believe the evolution of Maemo could cause Apple some problems, the professional scenarios like you've described could certainly perform a RIM job. :eek:

mrojas 2009-12-02 19:06
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 405522)
Laughingstock, you bring up a very good point.

Blackberries are more the target for N900 aspirations than iPhones. If the N900 can gain corporate interest and then adoption, local IT staff can insulate average users from the device complexities.

The N900 is more of a step up from Blackberries than iPhones. This thread just drove that home for me.
I think the idea of the N900 is that is can be both, depending on the user and how it is treated (this is, of course, assuming future firmware updated fix the issues most common mentioned).

It has a good camera, good media player, interface, etc. If a user don't want to go further, then that's it.

If a user wants to dig deeper as the OP did... then more power to them.

mrojas 2009-12-02 19:10
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 405585)
There's a commercial in there somewhere. Texrat and I have been on the same page here; even though I believe the evolution of Maemo could cause Apple some problems, the professional scenarios like you've described could certainly perform a RIM job. :eek:
I have a techie commercial in mind. User A with crap-phone is struggling in his day job, user B (the OP) comes in and does what he wrote in the first post to the utter amazement of the other guy. User A looks at him and User B says "It's Maemo".

Cue Nokia logo and fade to black.

(So basically everytime the N900 does something amazing you just explain with the "It's Maemo" line).

gazza_d 2009-12-02 19:12
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404833)
Get called at 5:30 AM this morning to fix a WebLogic problem we were having. So I answer my phone, tell the operators I'll take care of the issue and hang up.
Flip open the phone, click on my quick link to VPNC which I have loaded my .pcf file onto from my work laptop, and quickly connect to my works VPN.

Once there, I open up my terminal and ssh to the adminstrative AIX box where I have written some scripts to automate a lot of my Weblogic administration tasks.
I connect to the AIX box, fire off my script, watch as the problem resolves itself, and go back to bed for a bit.

The phone alarm kicks off at 7:20 AM. I get up, take a shower, head to work.
Sit down, link up my phone to the USB adapter connected to my laptop, and sync all my calendar information in Lotus Notes. Meanwhile I check my personal Gmail email, fire up the radio and listen to my morning radio show via headphones.

For fun, I connect my phone into work on the VPN again and open up VNC viewer to connect to my primary LDAP machine which runs on Linux, and I have KDE running on it. So I login to it with VNC Viewer on my phone and play around just because I can and show some friends at work.
Very very cool, but I could do this 10 years ago with a Ericsson 888 mobile phone and a Psion 5MX. dial into the work network and telnet onto the unix boxes. Granted it was 2 boxes not 1.

It's all a bit more difficult now, as our vpn, and wifi network at work are locked down for approved Windows devices only. Still my N810 will do the same trick into my home network to admin my mythtv box, and that's really mission critical!!

Gaz

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 19:20
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Our environment is also "locked" down to "approved" devices only, but no one argues with me. I even showed our firewall guy who laughed and said, "Ah man, that's one of our IP's you're looking at, don't show me that.." and just grinned.

God 2009-12-02 19:22
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 405442)
Boy, you guys are giving me free entertainment... :)

First of all "God", thanks for the brain link. Was this the place that you found yours? If so I will pass... Your signature gives me bad vibes about your intelligence. (and its not funny)

Didnt know that you needed this "extensive review" to make up your mind... good for you man.

@DaveP1 I didnt say that no one should criticize the device either what I said is that there are PLACES to make constructive criticism in form of bug reports or whatever... And yes, the "I am very happy with my N900 cos..." should also not be posted either. Otherwise, this forum will be just "reviews" and "rants".

And useless posts like "God"'s. Have you met him? Funny guy, not very lucky with da l4dies though. :rolleyes:
Not very luck with the ladies? What the hell :S

Have you recently put your intelligence to test? Instead of writing utter nonsense & irrelevance on this forum? lolit!

You seem to be up N900's *** for no rhyme or reason? Being a fact that the N900 is suffering childhood syndromes & has more faults than your face, I think it's very good that people post about their experience. I guess you're just a bit gutted at the fact that Nokia sorta played you...but hey, you can just queue up with all the rest of naive N900 adopters. ;}!!!!!!!

It's a shame that not even God likes you.

daperl 2009-12-02 19:22
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 405590)
(this is, of course, assuming future firmware updated fix the issues most common mentioned).
I know I'm being picky, but Nokia will only be half of the success story here. The OpenSSH apps that the OP is using are not supplied by Nokia. 99% of my tablet usage is with apps that Nokia doesn't supply. It's an important point because the community can supply fixes down to the kernel level. I could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Android can say that.

Barts 2009-12-02 19:23
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Thank you for the nice replies everyone!, i must admit i have done a lot of research and really looked into the device, as i have previously said, i don't understand a lot of what it can do, and don't understand the proffesional side of it, but i'm looking forward to learning, i know it has bugs, and issues, and trust me after having my blackberry, i can handle bugs and issues. i've been patiently waiting and visiting the forums, joined the community, watched the videos, and i can't wait to get my gruby little mits on it. I'm not stupid enough to compare it to my iphone, but i'm sick of everyone having one, sick of everyone pointing out how great and wonderfull it is, but never pointing out the faults (proffesional reviewers, magazines) are also guilty of this. Don't get me wrong, i love my iphone, and i may even keep it, but i will embrace nokia, and the N900 and i will get as involved with the community as much as i can and give my 2 cents worth. all in all, i can't wait

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 19:26
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
To be fair, my wife has an iPhone 3GS. She had a normal iPhone before that. She loves it. It's perfect for her and what she does. I never bought one though because it was selling itself short for me. It didn't have a shell, it didnt have ssh server/client. It didn't have Perl. It didn't (doesn't I should say for all of these) have a cisco vpn client. It doesnt have multi-tasking.

All these things the N900 DOES have, and for an IT professional, they are INVALUABLE.

daperl 2009-12-02 19:31
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 405600)
I have a techie commercial in mind. User A with crap-phone is struggling in his day job, user B (the OP) comes in and does what he wrote in the first post to the utter amazement of the other guy. User A looks at him and User B says "It's Maemo".

Cue Nokia logo and fade to black.

(So basically everytime the N900 does something amazing you just explain with the "It's Maemo" line).
I like that, but how about Morgan Freeman as User B. He looks at User A and says,

"Didn't you get the Maemo?"

daperl 2009-12-02 19:38
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405656)
To be fair, my wife has an iPhone 3GS. She had a normal iPhone before that. She loves it. It's perfect for her and what she does. I never bought one though because it was selling itself short for me. It didn't have a shell, it didnt have ssh server/client. It didn't have Perl. It didn't (doesn't I should say for all of these) have a cisco vpn client. It doesnt have multi-tasking.

All these things the N900 DOES have, and for an IT professional, they are INVALUABLE.
For $.99, install TouchTerm on your wife's 3GS. In a pinch, you'll be able to ssh into all of your boxes. It even has a user level password for secure convenience; you'd be safe even from your wife. :) A very good app and I highly recommend it. There's also a deluxe version for hardcores like yourself.

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 19:39
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 405684)
For $.99, install TouchTerm on your wife's 3GS. In a pinch, you'll be able to ssh into all of your boxes. It even has a user level password for secure convenience; you'd be safe even from your wife. :) A very good app and I highly recommend it. There's also a deluxe version for hardcores like yourself.
Where's their Cisco VPN client? All that's for naught otherwise.
Also, where's Perl? Where's their shell? A *nix shell is extremely powerful, even from a basic navigation + workload point of view. The scripting I can do on the Nokia will remain unsurpassed until someone builds a true shell on another phone.

qole 2009-12-02 19:49
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Laughingstok: welcome to Maemo. Us geeks have been doing this kind of crap for a few years on the tablets, but the N900 has gone and made geeky sexy.

If you want more Standard Desktop Linux stuff, I suggest installing Easy Debian from the extras-devel repository. This puts an image file with a standard Debian Lenny rootfs in MyDocs and you can easily chroot in and run all of the usual stuff you can get from the Debian repos, including full perl and all the server software. Complex GUI-based apps tend to get pretty mangled by the phone's finger-friendly UI at the moment, but command-line stuff (and simple GUI stuff) works great.

It also seems like a good thread to repost my True Geek's XTerm configuration screenshot:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/...c2d5e637_o.png

zb88 2009-12-02 19:52
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barts (Post 405421)
i'm a complete novice and have no idea what most of you are on about, this phone can do so many things that i would never use and seems to not be able to do things that i can do on my Iphone. But i don't care, i'm buying one anyway, the web in my pocket is all i care about, as long as i cand send texts and recieve/make calls, don't particularly give a damn about custom ring tones or mms, i've used mms about twice in 4 years. I'm really intruiged about the community side of it too, and hopefully i'll get to grips with what the phone is capable of doing, even though i'm no techie/ I have music, video capabilities, camera, full proper web browsing. with a phone (it's only my wife that calls me anyway), what more could you ask for!!, apart from 100,000 apps, of which 98,000 aren't downloaded :p
My thoughts, EXACTLY! I really don't care about all the missing apps many people over talking about, I've been waiting for nokia to release a nice cellphone with a good web experience. Before I was going for N97 but didn't buy it after reading all the reviews but now I'm keen on buying N900 ASAP! I've been on this forum as an observer and have red many reviews about N900, I know what i'm going into and don't have all high expectations etc. Like you, I'm new to Linux, in fact I installed ubuntu just to learn about Linux and how it works, after knowing that N900 is linux-based. I really have no clue about SSH or VNC etc but look into it after I get my device.

I didn't pre-order n900 but my local cellphone shop will have few N900s arriving today and I'm probably gonna be picking up one tomorrow. I'm just hoping I won't get a faulty unit =/. Other than that I am sure I will enjoy my new phone. And Oh I have N82 as of now.

mrojas 2009-12-02 19:55
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 405641)
I know I'm being picky, but Nokia will only be half of the success story here. The OpenSSH apps that the OP is using are not supplied by Nokia. 99% of my tablet usage is with apps that Nokia doesn't supply. It's an important point because the community can supply fixes down to the kernel level. I could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Android can say that.
Oh, I meant that Nokia should at least put Maemo, phone-feature and UI wise, on par with the competitors (MMS, voice dialing, etc).

Everything else it's on the community. The Cisco VPN client + RDP/MicroB (yeah it's compatible with Cisco appliances!)/ssh/Easy Debian for productivity apps has saved my hide many, many times...

I remember one time I was partying with some tech colleagues, and we got a call due to a server problem, they were thinking "Nooo back to the office), and I said "Wait a second", pulled out my N800, tethered it to my E71, VPN + RDP and solved the issue in 5 minutes. That's when I debuted my "It's Maemo" line :cool:

Gadgety 2009-12-02 20:00
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 405522)
Laughingstock, you bring up a very good point.

Blackberries are more the target for N900 aspirations than iPhones. If the N900 can gain corporate interest and then adoption, local IT staff can insulate average users from the device complexities.

The N900 is more of a step up from Blackberries than iPhones. This thread just drove that home for me.
As it's targetting skillful users first e.g. IT professionals, system administrators etc, I agree. N900 isn't really iPhone territory, but the Maemo6 device is likely to be targetting that device to a higher degree. I would say it's BB and Win Mo competition, for "corporate solutions." Furthermore, as Kallasvuo said today at the Financial community day the phone is open source, so companies, and carriers can add their own app's and tailoring.

However, I've done a poll here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35033, and if the results would be representative of the actual previous platforms of the buyers "defecting" to the maemo based N900, then BlackBerry and WinMo customers are a tiny group.

pegasus 2009-12-02 20:05
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Hey guys, Im a newbie!! Ordered my N900, and should be receiving it tomorrow! Hopefully UPS will stop playing with my emotions. HAHA

But really, I have done my research on this phone, read forums and watched videos about the phone. Just like barts, I know nothing about Linux or the full capabilities of the phone, but I am willing to learn. I like the phone because it does everything I want to do, most importantly I have email and internet on the go, without having to carry other devices. I know my expectations of the phone. As long as there are no dead pixels and everything works perfectly, I doubt I will be having issues with this phone....

dwould 2009-12-02 20:17
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404833)
Sit down, link up my phone to the USB adapter connected to my laptop, and sync all my calendar information in Lotus Notes.
.
care to elaborate on this? i run notes under ubuntu and I'd love a way to sync my calendar. i suspect you may be relying on something windowsy or on a server that lets you in?

I'd love it if I could get this set up...

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 20:27
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
I used the Nokia PC Suite sofware to sync it to a WIndows XP box. Works like a charm.

les_garten 2009-12-02 21:03
Keyboard
 
The Keyboard layout for a Linux device is a little irritating.

1) I have what appears to be a non functioning Tilde(~) key. I can't find a Tilde on the normal keyboard. If you go to the Virutal Keyboard and enable it, when you click on the numbers option, the Tilde(~) is far right. I click on it and it stays Blue like the button hangs and the tilde is not inserted. Does anyone else have this happen? I may need to send mine back, that would be a major irritation!

2) Three keys I kinda want handy. Tilda, TAB, and PIPE. None of these are on the main keyboard? I'm sure TAB is someplace but I'm still looking for it.

Main thing is the Tilde key presently, does anyone elses not work?

Thanx!

HangLoose 2009-12-02 21:05
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Oh sorry... mr nerdy nerdesson got pissed with the ladies comment? :o

Its indeed very irrelevant to discuss this much with this useless thread that already is deviating a lot from the purpose. But since you had a brain diarrhea and decided to vomit ignorance I needed to lower the level to actually try to communicate with you.

I just dont understand your hatred with Nokia and its products, and still hanging around the forum. And if that is being a fan boy, then I am one.

And hey kiddo, I got what you want. You just want someone to agree with you cos you life is kinda pointless and you are probably in the basement of mama... Fanboy is leaving Mr. Big Guy.

ps. wish you the best luck with da ladies

Thor 2009-12-02 21:12
Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)
 
I finally got mine today. Been playing around with it for around 9 hours now - I took the day off work.

Mostly good impressions. I've only installed official applications from Maemo Select and Extras but am getting messages saying not enough memory. I'm trying a reboot but have to do some work soon.

daperl 2009-12-02 21:27
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 405690)
Where's their Cisco VPN client? All that's for naught otherwise.
Also, where's Perl? Where's their shell? A *nix shell is extremely powerful, even from a basic navigation + workload point of view. The scripting I can do on the Nokia will remain unsurpassed until someone builds a true shell on another phone.
First off, congratulations. Sounds like you're kickin' a*s and takin' names. Secondly, we're on the same team; remember, I said, "in a pinch." I'm a hardcore Maemo guy; I'm probably the only dude on here using their own Python virtual terminal as their primary tablet console. I might also be the only dude on here using their own Python webkit wrapper as their primary tablet browser. My IDE has been vim for 24 years; that goes for non-cygwin Windows and DOS also. I think I qualify. Thirdly, I'm running iPhone OS 3.1.2, so here:

Settings->General->Network->VPN->Add VPN Configuration->IPSec

Attachment 4831

fnordianslip 2009-12-02 21:32
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 405889)
Main thing is the Tilde key presently, does anyone elses not work?
!
It seems that 3rd row down on the symbols soft-keybd consists of characters that can be accent modifiers or regular keys. Hitting space after typing the symbol will insert it, or typing another character will apply the accent to it.

DaveP1 2009-12-02 21:41
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 405894)
Oh sorry... mr nerdy nerdesson got pissed with the ladies comment? :o

Its indeed very irrelevant to discuss this much with this useless thread that already is deviating a lot from the purpose. But since you had a brain diarrhea and decided to vomit ignorance I needed to lower the level to actually try to communicate with you.

I just dont understand your hatred with Nokia and its products, and still hanging around the forum. And if that is being a fan boy, then I am one.

And hey kiddo, I got what you want. You just want someone to agree with you cos you life is kinda pointless and you are probably in the basement of mama... Fanboy is leaving Mr. Big Guy.

ps. wish you the best luck with da ladies
So it's ignorance if you disagree with any Nokia design decision and it's hatred if you find any fault with Nokia hardware. Must be a new Finnish law I overlooked.

I hope Nokia is listening more to people like the OP and far less (or not at all) to fanboys like HangLoose. He may want the forum to turn into an electronic choir of unceasing praise but there are those of us who want something better and are counting on Nokia to build it.

les_garten 2009-12-02 21:52
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fnordianslip (Post 405950)
It seems that 3rd row down on the symbols soft-keybd consists of characters that can be accent modifiers or regular keys. Hitting space after typing the symbol will insert it, or typing another character will apply the accent to it.
The Tilde key is not an accent key.

See if you can type this: ~user

The symbol before user is a tilde. It is on the Virtual Keyboard, but it doesn't work on mine. I would like to know if others have the problem as well.

Arif 2009-12-02 21:53
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Meh, I think the "N900 is for geeks" is utter ********.
I have NO idea how to code. Never used Linux. Don't care about it being able to log into weird things I never heard of.
I only want it for the great multimedia features it has. For example:
Full flash support. I can watch live TV streams in the browser in full screen.
Internet Radio. I asked a while ago how the radio streaming is. It's probably the ONLY phone that decodes AAC+ streams correctly (I'm not sure about this though)
Video playback. I can play video content from my network without having to re-encode it!
I know other phones can do this too, but they 1. don't do it properly or 2. only do some of these.
Oh, and did I mention I can browse the web like on my desktop? Currently (N95 8GB) I can't do what I'd like to do quickly. Like downloading a quick MP3 from rapidshare when I hear it somewhere, or quickly watch a YT clip (takes pretty long to load, and choppy)
So...People who want a great multimedia experience will probably love the N900 too :D

fnordianslip 2009-12-02 21:56
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 406010)
The Tilde key is not an accent key.

See if you can type this: ~user

The symbol before user is a tilde. It is on the Virtual Keyboard, but it doesn't work on mine. I would like to know if others have the problem as well.
Yep, I can type that by keying in:
~<space>user

Edit...
By this I mean entering the "~" character on the symbol OSK.

eiffel 2009-12-02 22:16
Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)
 
As les_garten says, if you want a tilde without it being an accept, type tilde then space. The space will be discarded, but it will make the tilde work.

For tab, many applications (including Xterminal) recognize control-I.

Regards,
Roger

thinh 2009-12-02 22:21
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP1 (Post 405972)
there are those of us who want something better and are counting on Nokia to build it.
yep, and i want portrait mode texting!!!

qole 2009-12-02 22:30
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 405937)
I'm probably the only dude on here using their own Python virtual terminal as their primary tablet console. I might also be the only dude on here using their own Python webkit wrapper as their primary tablet browser.
Links to files, please!

(EDIT: 'cause I'd like to be another dude running some of your Python apps)

qole 2009-12-02 22:54
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 406010)
The Tilde key is not an accent key.
On your N900, type

n i ~ n o

Congratulations! You've just written "boy child" in Spanish! Or you might be referring to the weather system...

Thor 2009-12-02 22:55
Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor (Post 405910)
I finally got mine today. Been playing around with it for around 9 hours now - I took the day off work.

Mostly good impressions. I've only installed official applications from Maemo Select and Extras but am getting messages saying not enough memory. I'm trying a reboot but have to do some work soon.
For anyone wondering, I removed the friend IM aggregator widget and rebooted and no more problems with the memory message. I don't know if that was the problem but it mention problems with messages, so that was my guess.

Thor 2009-12-02 22:56
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 406156)
On your N900, type

n i ~ n o

Congratulations! You've just written "boy child" in Spanish! Or you might be referring to the weather system...
Or Liverpool footballer Fernando Torres ;)

real_per 2009-12-02 22:58
Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)
 
writing this from my brand new N900. Wuhu! :)

One problem: My operator id is shown two times, next to each other on the desktop ?

Like this: http://www.fonearena.com/blog/wp-con...nboxing_31.jpg

Also, id doesn't show any cell id?

Is this a bug ?

qole 2009-12-02 23:01
Re: Keyboard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 405889)
2) Three keys I kinda want handy. Tilda, TAB, and PIPE. None of these are on the main keyboard? I'm sure TAB is someplace but I'm still looking for it.

See this thread for XTerm customisation tips.

See this thread for re-mapping the keyboard.

RTbar 2009-12-02 23:30
Re: N900 review... pros and cons
 
updated post, noticed that the arrow keys don't work in the app manager and other applications to scroll.


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