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Mine does. Though the writing is so small I struggled a bit!

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For anyone who has N900, what do you think about the call reception quality? is it any good?

I have N78 and Nokia 6610 and from my experience the call reception quality using 6610 is a lot better than using N78.

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Well, can't report any problems with call quality.

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I use the DuraSec protector. They are incredibly tough and I got used very quickly to the feel. (Plus, they're not too expensive and if you search you can find a code here that gives you free shipping and handling.)

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Call quality is ok. Phone app quick to respond when it's running. It appears phone app isn't active all the time in the background - just a "call monitor". So when the call monitoring daemon sees an incoming call it starts the phone app. This sometimes takes 3-5 seconds and so I might even hear the ringtone, but see only a black screen while it's loading.

Today, the mic stopped working, so the person on the other end couldn't hear me. A boot fixed that problem. Only experienced it once.

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From Twitter:

Engadget's Chris Ziegler: I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the n900 is the best pocketable way to browse the web, period.

LOL Even engadget has to admit something! :D

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That isn't really surprising, because... well...

It is the best pocketable way to browse the web, period.

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CRAP, shitty crap.
Did anyone test it in roaming?
F**ng crappy **** :)
As always...

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It sounds like you are living in the past. Linux and open source dominate on the world's most powerful supercomputers running the most important and mission critical applications anywhere. Linux and open source also have a huge share among critical Internet servers. Companies like Google run their entire businesses on open source. So your assumptions are clearly not up to date.

Reality is that open source is the best software model for the future. However, it is not presently the dominant model in the consumer space. That can change thanks to events we are witnessing now. Nokia's support of Maemo is one such event.

We, as consumers, need to educate ourselves about the impact of our purchasing decisions. It is no different from thinking about human rights, the environment, fair trade, sustainability and other important issues when purchasing clothing, food, cars or any other products.

At times, such as when buying one of the first hybrid vehicles, people do choose to buy smart even if it means there are compromises. There are always compromises. But sometimes it makes sense to look ahead and see what choices are best for the future.

Clearly, supporting open source on phones, handhelds and the desktop is best for the future. If open source doesn't win, we lose.

I would like to respectfully ask everyone who is bashing Nokia to educate themselves about the remarkable work Nokia is doing to support open source -- e.g., our rights, our freedoms, our empowerment.

Yes, the N900 is not perfect. It may not be the device for everyone. Nokia told us that before the N900 was launched!

If you are having problems with your N900, go to https://bugs.maemo.org and register (yes, again!) and vote for any bugs that you feel are important.

Maemo is about the future. Please keep that in mind. If you invest all your energy in tearing down Maemo and the N900, you are building a future for yourself where you will have much less freedom of choice about what you can do with the devices you purchase.

Again, the N900 might not be for everyone right now, but what open source represents certainly is better for any individual's future. (I recognize that some commercial software companies may go the way of the dinosaur, but others will rise up to replace them. Those that rise up will be built on the foundations of personal freedom.)

I am running Linux on all my own computers. I'm typing this on openSUSE 11.2 on my Thinkpad T61p. This is 100% equal to any commercial software in the world today. In fact, it is far, far better. I have zero compromises. Linux meets or exceeds every one of my needs better than any other product, including the most expensive closed source products on the market.

It was not always the case the Linux on the desktop was such a superior experience. In fact, version 11.2 of openSUSE is really the first time I can make this statement. But open source has a strong tailwind (strong momentum) behind it and things are improving rapidly. Maemo is a great example of this momentum. And it could be that with Maemo 6, I will be able to say the same thing I am saying about openSUSE 11.2 -- no closed source product can beat it. (Actually, that is very close to being true for Maemo 5/N900 now, and with a few updates coming it may be the reality before we know it.)

As I said, the best, most important, most profitable business, most critical enterprises, most advanced science projects run open source software. It is not inferior in any way. Proprietary, closed source software is the one that suffers from inherent limitations (because its source is closed). So the potential is there.

But we all know that Linux and open source projects are not yet dominating the consumer marketspace. That means there will be inconveniences at times compared to going with the more common route. Again, it is not unlike making the hard choices to support any other emerging technology that represents a better way forward. Many people will be tempted to take the easy way, to just do what is most convenient for this moment. Yet, for those of us who are aware of the bigger picture, we recognize that we can shape the future by our choices right now. And we are willing to accept some compromises now in order to empower this vision for a better world.

Fortunately, the compromises we now have to make in order to support open source on a phone/pocket computer are very, very minor. (And I'm not suggesting that anyone put up with critical bugs not being quickly fixed!) I am suggesting that instead of putting so much energy into looking for every minor thing wrong with a groundbreaking product like the N900, we put that energy into making sure the vision for freedom on our smart phones thrives -- for our own benefit.

With a little patience and community involvement the N900 can be the very best product in its class. It is so close. And no other product offers the community so much ability to make this true, to shape the reality of the product we use.

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ok a day in, and no support for my 3 simyet...but wow. i love it.
i just sync'd my contacts with my e71 over bluetooth. then used hermes to magically pull info from facebook and twitter. how cool is that?

browsing is fast, flash works great, i'm finding the screen size less of a problem than I feared.

it would be nice to see a few more apps filter up to availiable. such as maemo-mapper, macchanger, python-glade...
maybe i just need to add some repositories.

anyway so far, very impressed.

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Think I'll get a Zagg full body InvisibleShield and get this case then. :D

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For the more-adventurous, add Extras-Testing. It is almost the same information as the Extras repo, you just need to add "-testing" to the end of the URL.

For the very-adventurous, there's a treasure trove of interesting stuff in Extras-Devel. Copy and paste, just like Extras-Testing, but add "-devel" to the end of the Extras URL.

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Has anyone tried Google voice over wifi or over the network? If so how does it work?

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Hi Guys, I got my N900 last evening and wrote up some first impressions here: http://www.henryhagnas.com/nokia-n900-first-impressions

Short version: Liking it but waiting for more software

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is finnish users having problems with n900?just thinking about what would i choose?x6 or n900?and i think all the crappy n900 went to usa and uk?and we in finland get the best ones YAYYYYYYYYYY:D

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Google Voice doesn't provide any sort of Voice service on it's own. It uses existing voice services (landline and cell phone) to function. To place a Google Voice call, you log into Google Voice and specify which of your existing voice services to use to place the call (i.e. landline, cell phone, VoIP Account (only Gizmo5 at the moment). You tell Google Voice (GV) which telephone number your wish to call. GV will initiate a call to the number your specified, and GV will initiate a call to your designated voice service. Once your and the party you called pick the call is routed though Goggle's extensive fiber network. GV acts as the middle man for the call.

So for example, I could use my N900 Cell Number as the endpoint of a GV call, or I could use my Gizmo5 account (SIP VoIP) as the end point. And I could be logged into Gizmo from my desktop or I could be logged into Gizmo from my N900 over a WiFi or cellular data connection. The later is what scare Cellular service providers are your don't burn any cellular minutes, it's strictly a data connection.

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An impression from someone who doesn't have internet access at all yet:

Maps is terrible. It obviously has addresses in its database but you go to search for an address with the internet connection off and you type only 1 character and it says it can't find anything. I can't figure out what the little building icon is for. And the application eventually locks up and while the app can be killed it won't work again until the phone is restarted.

I like the GUI a lot so far. It is very slick. A little unhappy the full screen button is no longer there but I'll probably get used to it.

I like that there's now a task list and better calendar included; however the task list does not displace gpe for me because there are no categories and no method to assign a task independent of a date.

Taking the back off of the phone was scary the first time because it seemed like it was going to break.

I can't figure out if tmobile is working or not and I don't have wireless access right now either.

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Actually, kind of what I wanted to see. I thought there was an app that allowed Maemo 5 to use google voice with SIP to make calls. Anyone tried it. Think it is something called dialer.

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Google Voice Dialer (by epage?) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29347

Though you need to register a SIP account at Gizmo and set it up, it doesn't do that for you.

Btw, mhotep, I ordered that rubber case so if it doesn't fit the n900 when I get the n900 I'm blaming you. :P

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The application is called DialCentral. It's in the Maemo5 Extras Testing catalog. I've installed it and have it running and logged into Google Voce. And it works just fine with landline, cell phone and the N900 logged into Gizmo5 using WiFi.

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HI i just got my shiny new nokia n900

HOW DO I CHANGE THE MEMORY TO BE 1GB u kow to allocate some more memory to ram?????

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Not possible...

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mwhahahaha, now I have macchanger. just a matter of time for the rest.

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My Amazon order hasn't arrived yet, but Nokia sent me a loaner to use until it gets here, so ITS ON, PLAYA! I GOT THE N900 IN HAND!!!

I feel like Brain from Pinky and the Brain. Now I can take over the entire WORLD! Buah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, AAAAAAAh-ha-ha-ha-ha....
(So I'll be posting alot less while me and this girl get acquainted.)

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OK, I've had mine a few hours now. First impressions:

Like some others, I was also worried that I'd break the back cover when taking it off. No wonder Nokia has to put that instructional sticker on the back, otherwise you'd never believe it was supposed to open that way.

I had a lot of trouble getting the SIM card in. I was wondering if the card was maybe just a little too thick, because it made the metal clip pop out of its housing. I thought I might have broken it, but I was able to get the clip back into place, then I found that the SIM card hadn't been in the right position. After that, no problem.

Lots of troubles setting up the WiFi. At first, I couldn't find the right options, because I naiively assumed that the options under "Internet Connections" would be as extensive as those under "Connectivity". Silly me. Even once I got that sorted out, WiFi didn't work until I rebooted. No problems since then, though.

The browser is plenty powerful. I get plenty of crosshatching when I scroll, but the whole experience is so much faster than browsing on the N810. The performance is really superb, and all the websites I tried render really well.

I'm disappointed though that the double-tap-to-zoom doesn't always get the scaling quite right. Side-by-side with my daughter's iPod touch is quite embarrassing for the N900, because the iPod gets the double-tap scaling so right. It really makes a difference to the browsing experience.

YouTube works fine, and looks great in full-screen view. But what I would really like is an easy way to change the volume in this situation (the volume buttons are co-opted as zoom buttons in this situation). But you can leave YouTube playing a playlist full-screen, and the videos just keep coming and looking great.

I took a photo, then took a video so that I could check that the microphone was working (it was). Used the inbuilt image editor to crop and save the photo, then tried to delete the photo and got a message something like "deletion failed". Couldn't get rid of the photo until I closed the image viewer and re-opened it.

Overall, the device feels much more flimsy than I thought it was going to. After using it for a couple of hours I picked up the N810 which just felt so solid by comparison.

I can see that it's going to take a few weeks to learn not to do the things that don't work, and to discover all the things that do work really well. I call this process "bedding in", and it seems to be a necessary part of coming to terms with any new hardware device (or software application for that matter) because there's no longer the expectation that they will work without flaws.

I had been hesitant about the N900 because of the smaller screen compared to the N810. After using the N900 I feel that the screen really is way too small for what I want to do on it. This is a real bummer. The N900 is on its way to be a fabulous phone, and also a great "casual internet on the go" device, but I just can't see it becoming my internet tablet.

I'll see how I feel about this after a couple of weeks.

Now, off to explore the media player, then get the device set up for Python development.

Regards,
Roger

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I just noticed a hot pixel as well. I will be calling Nokia to inquire about whether it is covered under warranty, but not until they come back in stock. I feel the stupidest thing right now would be to give away my phone when people are expecting to wait for theirs until next year in some cases.

Rumors are going wild right now in Finland, that Nokia isn't bringing in nearly enough phones for everyone.

Besides, the hot pixel seems sort of dim and if I tilt the screen, it disappears completely at certain angles. Don't know what is up with that. It's under the status bar clock, so I rarely see it.

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This thing is SOLID. I've had it in my hands for a few hours myself, and though the UI and a few other nuances caught me off guard, I was able to get used to most of it and am now enjoying the device quite a bit. The only thing I really hate is how underpowered the headphone port is: this thing can't drive my Sennheiser EH350's, which can be driven quite easily by everything else I've used with it.

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As u all know i recieved my N900 too few days ago too.
Well my phone is all fine, congrats to nokia thay did a great job but i have a biger problems ish:

-PC suite my phone is not yet supported
-Ovi suite my phone is not yet suported
-And my software updater is saying that my win 7 is not yet supported so cant innstal it....
-Maps loader my phone not yet supported

What im supose to do now or till they make it work all????

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We do now, as you've posted the same message in 3 separate threads. Why?

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To keep me following around answering. ;) I answered in the other two, Andy, check your tracks. :)

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Yeah, not kewl!

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N900 navigation i dont undestand how to use it much... Help anyone

This is v1.0 and to be honest is bit thick or just me cos i have not figure out how to use it...

example how do i save favourite locations
how do i start navigations and etc.
settings is bit blank no options like in my old phn e71
and so on and on

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Do you mean navigation as in driving navigation using the Maps application (which is basically broken), or do you mean navigating the device?

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i mean the app ovi maps v1.0 i cant figure how to use it properly....

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Hold on what do u mean by "which is basically broken" ????:confused::confused::confused:

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i couldnt care less about the screen - because the screen of my n900, when i'll receive it, will only be able to breathe fresh air for around 5 to 10 seconds. and it will never feel the direct warmth of a human finger.
i'll pull of the screen protector thats on it factory-wise and apply a clear screen protector that i bought.

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ok. now had n900 for @couple of days. wriring this post on the phone itself (goosd test of keyboard)

first day impression was a bit negative to bw honwest. could nort get e m8l to work, got a dead pixel, and thought the whole phone was smaller than i imagined. i am also having some trouble with the keyboard asm you can probably tell.

however we have just had a long weekend in austria and i now LOVE the phone. sorted out gmail and google calender. could check work email and open up some graphs.went on you tube and showed our american freinds some clips of i'm a celebrity. all worked perfectly.

now going to add some apps and keep on playing.

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Well, mine arrived Friday - but I was out of the office, and just got in to pick it up today..

I'm very pleased that everything seems to be working - haven't had any spontaneous boots in first 4 hours or so, browser is pretty good, mic working (I'm in UK, so thought I'd mention that, customary apologies to poor old nuknuk)

I'm not used to touchscreen phones whatsoever and am finding the control hard going with fingers, so tending to use stylus which I'm more familiar with.

One problem I am having is that non-browser apps that want to access the net have a tendency to resolve things as 1.0.0.0 - if you search the forums for that IP, you'll find various problems this can cause.. :rolleyes: It's actually a problem I've seen before to do with a mismatch between some resolver libraries and the dns service offered on some types of wireless routers.

Trouble is, I'm a bit stuck to fix it, because I need root access on the device to install a temporary /etc/resolv.conf to point to a working dns and I need application manager to work in order to get root access (I'd rather do this without having to take the red pill).

I think I'll have to use the t-mobile data connection to download becomeroot, in order to fix it.

If it is possible to fix the 1.0.0.0 problem in the next firmware, I think it will be well worth the time - it's a confusing and timewasting problem.

Other than that, nothing really to add to the various good writeups here and in other threads (I'm talking about the mostly-positive ones ;) ) - it works with some aplomb (modulo the 1.0.0.0 problem) the screen is amazing, I'm probably going to have to start wearing glasses at some point...

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this thread is called "n900 owners thread (first impressions...)", but i didnt see a single picture of users of this forum that they shot of their devices?!

please people, post unboxing-videos and pictures and stuff!


how do you download them to the phone?
when i click the downoad-button on the nokia-page for bounce evolution, i get a .install-file.
can i manually copy them to the phone to install the app?
alternatively, can i access the site directly from the n900 and install it directly?

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Access the site directly from the n900. Then the .install-file will open up the application manager and ask if you want to install whatever (in this case it's bounce).