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That would be a lovely compliment if I were a 'hot woman'. Sadly, I'm almost into the 'hot flashes' phase.

:D

(Hot teddy bear?)

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Okay.

I once went to an atheist church in Cincinnati.

Many of them stood up and testified that they used to be pedifiles, robbers, murders, etc....

And that they still were.

Very weird.

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Don't kill the illusion!!!! ;)

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At Kathy:

Women who become hysterical old maids in constant menopause with hot flashes can still be sexy!

Just ask my mom! :)

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It's stories like this that make me glad I don't go to Ohio **OR** Michigan.

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Michigan is the black hole of emotional and financial need that will suck the life out of you.

Good job on figuring that one out!

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I'm in with plenty points to spare for any idiots in need... :pI disagree, and can prove to you the divinity of God's Word, the BIble, in a scientific and mathematical manner via a PM to any that are interested. I'm dying to show any doubters the light if they wish to see it. From the knowledge I've gained of God and the true religion, it is neither weird nor irrational to follow the laws of a being with infinite powers and love. LOVE is the basis of my religion, and I use the FEAR word as most old school cats like me use it. Fear [of displeasing the Almighty]= respect.

Honestly, I was raised in a religion that doesn't observe national, traditional, or Pagan-based holidays, which is nearly all of them. I'm always shocked by the "weird" things that have to do with some holiday or festival, and the ability of most Americans especially to impose their religious holidays and customs upon society in general, as if we wish to participate in their religious practices and what not, without wondering if it may be disrespectful to the faith of others.

So, yes, I did have to ask. Better than to assume. Plus, the Maemo.org guys are a funny bunch. Could've been a joke of their's.

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Chris, no need for PM's. We're all interested. Just post your proof right here. Don't make us beg.

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Why should everyone's religion have a specific criteria?

As long as you're happy with your beliefs and don't critisize other people for theirs, then it's all good.

Everybody sees everything with different eyes, I don't think there shoud be a specific religion for an amount of people.

There's no proof for anything in life, deep down it's always theory.
So what's the point in fighting an endless battle of questions, when YOU as a person are the answer to everything. Only you can control what you think and that's what matters. Your mind has to rest in peace with your thoughts, so whichever religion/mentality that's supposed to be, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day we're all the same. Instead of fighting a war of different opinion, we should learn from every single one.

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That is your opinion. There is only one Almighty God, and I've seen no evidence to the contrary. He has strict instructions on how to live our lives, and this is the definition of religion as I speak it. And its for all man that chooses Him.

So if I can predict a historical event from the 20th century down to the exact year using just the Bible, would that not be proof? I'd take bets if it weren't a religious subject. I love showing people that, unlike the Quran, Book of Mormon, and other "holy" books, only the Bible is devine. Its the only one that exhibits supernatural powers no other book has.
I don't find the battle endless, and don't see it as a battle at all. I'll hush you up in a second. I'm just offering you a chance to learn. You don't have to accept, but you have to suffer the consequence of ignoring the Truth.

I accept people of all faiths, but only subscribe to the one laid out in the Bible.

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It's easy to "predict" events that already happened.

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I believe in a higher power, but I gotta call BS on that one Chris. I've seen the so-called "proofs" of things spiritual but they really aren't. Yeah, they look and sound really nifty but they're not scientific. Just as Creationism doesn't qualify as a theory.

Besides, that's a dangerous road to go down anyway. People are told they should be able to suspend disbelief and accept certain things on faith, and then 'just in case' that fails here's this series of "proofs" to help the agnostic out. Defeats the whole premise of faith.

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Please do. Note that I am a non-believer and am only asking for this so that I can check out your "scientific and mathematical manner".

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Wow, that is just so cliché. And I thought you zealots had been buried a long time ago. Just because you don't have evidence to the contrary doesn't mean something exists.

I'll use one of Bertrand Russel's analogies for this, as it is quite appropriate with your arguments:

I would even go further, and quote Ockham's touchy little sentence: "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem". In other words: as there is no absolute possibility to prove either the existence of a supreme being, or its non-existence, the obvious solution is the simplest one: there is no supreme being.

If you could, that would be quite interesting. Yet, you are as arrogant as all religious people who dare get into such conversation, and immediately diss other religious books. How can a book exhibit supernatural powers? Does it float around your house? Does it do your dishes? Do you jump on it twice and it teleports you to another galaxy? If you rub it gently, does it moan under your tender palms and psalms?

You have no proof. Other than being another person with a twisted inflection on something which was written by hundreds of people, translated by dozens (hence, the original meaning must be quite far from what we have now). The Bible itself is full of mistakes and contradictions. For instance, Genesis 1 and 2 disagree about the order in which things are created, and how satisfied God is about the results of his labors. The flood story is really two interwoven stories that contradict each other on how many of each kind of animal are to be brought into the Ark--is it one pair each or seven pairs each of the "clean" ones? The Gospel of John disagrees with the other three Gospels on the activities of Jesus Christ (how long had he stayed in Jerusalem--a couple of days or a whole year?) and all four Gospels contradict each other on the details of Jesus Christ's last moments and resurrection. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke contradict each other on the genealogy of Jesus Christ's father; though both agree that Joseph was not his real father. Repetitions and contradictions are understandable for a hodgepodge collection of documents, but not for some carefully constructed treatise, reflecting a well-thought-out plan.

Pretty holy, that book of yours, eh? Or maybe you'll choose to ignore all the horrible things that are said in it? Do you carefully choose to ignore the passages where plainly, it is pure horror that is displayed?

In other words, a man accepts a stranger into his house, and offers him food and a roof. Then other men come to the house and demand to see the stranger. The owner refuses to present the stranger, but in order to appease their anger, offers his daughter -- a virgin -- and the maid, in sacrifice.

Oh, yeah, your book is all too easy to defend now, is it?

That's where you're wrong. I am free to ignore whatever I please. As you can read above, I am not completely ignorant on the matter. I have studied the Bible, as most of my family is religious, and they have passed a good deal of their beliefs through me, however, that doesn't mean I have to believe.

You don't accept other faiths. You just said earlier their books weren't holy, thus you just downgraded their "belief" to an infantile foreplay before they come to realise "Your Truth".

I don't mind the occasional Religious War, but seriously, with that kind of convictions?

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The amazing thing about religious people is how great they are at spinning. Even better than Fox News.

The Bible doesn't quote a specific date on anything. For the book to predict anything, it must be a specific date, not a vague reference to it. It must be "August 22nd, 2009", and not "when the sun comes up red on a cloudy day when the rain comes..."

If the book claims one thing, and something else happens instead, they will twist it around so that they are somehow right anyways.

Religion is a crutch for the weak and weak-minded because mankind can't understand that there are some things beyond his feeble mind, that they cannot understand or explain... and when that happens, they worry and get freaked out... so someone comes along and tries to explain it one way or another which may or may not be anywhere near the actual truth. It's far easier for man to think there's a dude up in the clouds that decided his mom should die of cancer today than it is to think that her defences finally gave up.

That little N900 you've been wanting or have been holding in your hands? You'd be crucified as a witch and burned at the stake over it not that long ago.

Now can we please stop all this ******ed **** all over TMO, please?

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I don't like to repeat myself, but I'll do an exception xD

Dear Chris,

I am very conscious of your belief & I feel that what your belief is not coming from your heart, instead it's just from books & brainwashed people.

The bible is only a reason to control people & was probably not even meant to have this sort of impact to the human nation. Religion at the extent as you describe is sickness. A "God", in other words a "high power", can be anything you wish. A magical spirit in the universe who listens to our prayers & created two people to lead a planet is a bit of a fairy tale to me :)
The bible has been corrupted so many times & it's nothing like what it was at an original point. It sounds like it was a farmer who decided to write a "book" with rules & regulations on how to live, with some sort of "Boss" who controls everything & if you dare to do wrong, this "MARVELLOUS GOD" will punish you to hell so you can rot & suffer for the rest of your life. Hehe, funny.

Anyway, as long as you're happy the way you are leading your life (like I previously said) then I am happy for you ;)

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Let's disagree without getting ugly, eh guys?

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Your blogs are very good. Respect ;)

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Wow, this is a tough one. While on the one hand I can see people being offended by a religious statement of condemnation and self-righteousness, I can also see people being offended by statements like: "religion is based on fear"; "religion is for the weak-minded"; etc. etc. That's just silly.

I'm from the United States, where - unlike most of Europe - religious beliefs and spirituality dominate public and private life. Although Christianity forms the majority, every faith known to humanity has taken root and flourished. Communities are successful whose members can find common ground and mutual respect. The first example that comes to mind (it's been a long day and I'm tired) is from an outspokenly atheistic band called Bad Religion. The lyricist and singer, with a doctorate in biology and evolution, has very good friends that are Christians. The band's bass player is religious. I myself am a believer; one of my good friends and colleagues, a true professional whom I respect and rely upon, is proudly agnostic. I don't charge over to him with a religious tract and he knows that my faith doesn't come from "weak-mindedness" and fear. Do we sometimes talk about our positions? Of course. Respect - and a healthy does of humor - are key.

Can't a discussion within this community have a level of mutual respect?

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God spoke to me in my sleep last night and told me i'll be receiving my n900 next week . I think he was talking s**t like nokia uk .

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That's kind of a ridiculous statement. How do you know for sure that there have never been faiths held by handfuls of people that did not extend beyond those handfuls, and died with them?

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I don't think that was God talking to you. Sounds more like too much Arbroath Smokie. Or Curry.

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Good point. I retract that part of my statement! Or I will rephrase to "every faith known to humanity that existed - besides those numbering in the small handfuls".

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In other words, every faith known to humanity that has taken root and flourished (since you are now excluding the ones that did not take root and flourish) has taken root and flourished. Impeccable logic. :p

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That is why when I was in the classroom my students never did that well in English/Language Arts. It seems my skills have not improved since then.

I don't think I will any longer use: "take root and flourish" unless I'm speaking about my back yard. The phrase has lost its magic!

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Wow... Are we sure that this user named "God" was responsible for the script?

The messages that popped up for me seemed to be Christian fundamentalist and they occurred right after this guy opened a thread and invited comments. His responses appeared to be more irreverent than fundamental.
Could someone else have used the opportunity to push their own agenda or to prove their mastery of stupid human tricks?

I have seen this kiddy crap before in other forums and more often than not, it was a setup by another member.

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On all this talk about faith. A faith that we all seem to have in common is the faith that this dang device will soon be delivered unto us sinners and saints by a higher power that we are powerless to control...

Nokia. :p

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My favorite weird-result studies have to be the ones where they get people to pray for plants to see if it has any effect on them. The weird thing is that many of the studies report positive results.

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Let's move on guys.

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