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grog 2010-03-10 15:59

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe (Post 562526)
Have you verified you've got the correct APN settings on the N900? That's all I can think of, really..

By APN do you mean Access Point Name? I hadn't set it explicitly, right now it's "internet.com", not encouraging :confused:. What should it be?

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I'm curious -- did you have to port your phone number over to SpeakOut to get this all set up, or does there seem to be a way to use them for data without having to go through all that?
I checked into that before. When you activate the phone the automated service assigns you one of their numbers. After that you call customer service & they arrange your number transfer. I won't be going through that for a while, my current contract has a ways to go. I'm just forwarding my calls to my SpeakOut # for now. A waste I know, but my phone is my N900 now :).

Bingley Joe 2010-03-10 17:46

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by grog (Post 562670)
By APN do you mean Access Point Name? I hadn't set it explicitly, right now it's "internet.com", not encouraging :confused:. What should it be?

Ahh, ok -- it looks like these are the settings you should use:

Apn: goam.com
Username: wapuser1
Password: wap
Proxy IP: 10.128.1.69
Port: 80

And yes, APN = Access Point Name. The proxy settings should be available under the Advanced section of the Internet Settings for that connection..

Give that a try and let me know if it works..

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I checked into that before. When you activate the phone the automated service assigns you one of their numbers. After that you call customer service & they arrange your number transfer. I won't be going through that for a while, my current contract has a ways to go. I'm just forwarding my calls to my SpeakOut # for now. A waste I know, but my phone is my N900 now :).
Hmmm interesting.. I'm curious to try SpeakOut myself just for data, but I'm not terribly keen to give up my current plan which is no-contract and grandfathered (so effectively not available anywhere else). Forwarding isn't a bad idea though..


Not sure if you've found this unofficial site, but it could be helpful:

http://www.speakoutwireless.ca/speak/

mtran66 2010-03-10 18:12

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
So any info regarding setting up a port relay?

qole 2010-03-10 18:15

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
I am currently using Fido, they're the cheapest plan I know of.

Set-up fees: $35 for the SIM, $35 to set it up, plus taxes, comes to about $80 just to start to use the service on the N900.

Monthly fees: I get the cheapest voice plan, 50 minutes, 50 SMS, for $15. I then add-on 500MB of data for $25.

After taxes, I pay about $45 per month. This gives me full Internet on the N900. I have yet to ever use more than 250 MB in a month.

All that being said, if you can get this Speakout plan working, I'd be very interested. I guess you'd have to SSH to a home PC over port 80 (the aforementioned "port relay") to get full Internet, however...

grog 2010-03-10 18:43

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe (Post 562776)
Ahh, ok -- it looks like these are the settings you should use:

Apn: goam.com
Username: wapuser1
Password: wap
Proxy IP: 10.128.1.69
Port: 80

And yes, APN = Access Point Name. The proxy settings should be available under the Advanced section of the Internet Settings for that connection..

Give that a try and let me know if it works..

How did you know what settings were needed? Works good for what I've tried so far. Should I able to send & receive gmail email via the mail app? As far as I can tell, I can retrieve messages but not send. What about map GPS data & maps? I tried ssh, doesn't go through. I agree with mtran66, what's involved in setting up a remote proxy? I've no clue. :)

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Not sure if you've found this unofficial site, but it could be helpful:

http://www.speakoutwireless.ca/speak/
Yah been there. But thanks for posting it.

qole 2010-03-10 18:56

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
Is only port 80 open for this service? If so, you have to set up SSH on a computer that is connected to the Internet, then make it available on port 80 (instead of or as well as port 22). You can do this via a router or you can do this in your sshd_config file. Then you use ssh and tsocks on the N900 to get access to everything over your encrypted ssh tunnel.

grog 2010-03-10 22:00

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 562839)
Is only port 80 open for this service?

Seems so. The HTTP proxy is the only one that Bingley Joe has given so far. I notice our setup has proxies for HTTPS, FTP & RSTP (?). I assume if there were any others that they'd be supplied by SpeakOut/Rogers (you can tell I don't know much about proxies).

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If so, you have to set up SSH on a computer that is connected to the Internet, then make it available on port 80 (instead of or as well as port 22). You can do this via a router or you can do this in your sshd_config file. Then you use ssh and tsocks on the N900 to get access to everything over your encrypted ssh tunnel.
I set up my home linux box to accept that no problem. I understand that you compiled tsocks for fremantle, correct? Not sure if I'm getting close to understanding all of this, but I'll do some digging & see if I can get this set up. TX

Bingley Joe 2010-03-11 13:48

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by grog (Post 562830)
How did you know what settings were needed? Works good for what I've tried so far. Should I able to send & receive gmail email via the mail app? As far as I can tell, I can retrieve messages but not send. What about map GPS data & maps? I tried ssh, doesn't go through. I agree with mtran66, what's involved in setting up a remote proxy? I've no clue. :)

Ah, glad to hear that worked for you! I came across those settings in a thread somewhere while looking into this service -- would have been either at Howardforums or the unofficial site I linked to above.. can't remember which offhand (maybe both!).

As for setting up your proxy relay, I'm just as curious as you about how to do that on the N900 side.. I've got DD-WRT on my router configured for it, but running data through an SSH tunnel on the N900 is something I'd very much like to know how to do.

AFAIK though, that's the only way to get full internet through Speakout as it's strictly limited to port 80.

akorvemaker 2010-03-11 14:33

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe (Post 563729)
AFAIK though, that's the only way to get full internet through Speakout as it's strictly limited to port 80.

Does port 443 (https) work as well?

Bingley Joe 2010-03-11 16:22

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 
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Originally Posted by akorvemaker (Post 563781)
Does port 443 (https) work as well?

According to reports in this thread, what works and what doesn't seems to be a bit hit-and-miss.

Looks like HTTPS via browser works in some cases, but not for everyone.. Not sure what to make of that.


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