Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I'm not sure if it'll work. Not being able to use port 443 is part of the reason for my interest in this in the first place. But if you're inclined to try, please post your results. TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

OMG I got it working

so I was putting the ProxyCommand in the wrong file. I was supposed to put it into /etc/ssh/ssh_config

but instead, I put it into /home/user/.ssh/config

now to figure out port relay/tunneling...

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

OK partial success

I installed squid on my ubuntu machine, which is also my ssh server.

I set SSH to 443 and Squid to 8888 on the server.

on my N900

I use in the terminal:
ssh -N -p 443 -L 8888:localhost:8888 username@myserver -vvv

you can omit the -vvv, but it helped with debugging.

I then went into n900 settings > internet connections > selected the WAP connection > advanced > proxy information

I put 127.0.0.1 and port 8888 for each entry

After I did all this, I managed to get onto the internet, however, it is a lot slower. I am also able to connect to MSN (pecan), but it's a bit buggy... usable though. My first 1 or 2 messages sent won't go through, but after that, they do.

I say it's a partial success because I had to change Pecan to HTTP mode in order for it to connect. My skype and gtalk accounts did not connect, but I'm hoping it's just a setting in squid....

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Hey mtran66, any further updates? And qole, you haven't anything to add? Do you think mtran66 is on the right track? Is there any reason we shouldn't be able to ssh to a server listening on port 80 without any fancy bells-n-whistles? TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I think you can ssh into port 80. My problem was that I was putting in the configuration in the wrong file.

I haven't looked into this further yet, been busy.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

grog, mtran66: I'm not really interested in trying this out, since I don't have those limitations so I would be doing it purely as a technical exercise, but the whole corkscrew and squid proxy thing to me seems way overkill.

You should just have to:

1. Set up ssh on your host to listen on port 80.
2. Install tsocks on the N900 and edit the config file /etc/tsocks.conf to look like this:
3. Then, on the N900:

That should get you logged in to your host.

4. Now open a new terminal, and run:

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Thanks for the responses. I haven't had any luck at all. As I had posted before, even a simple:

While working fine using wifi just times out over gprs. Really strange, 'cause it's port 80, I would've thought that any data sent over the port would get through?

Or is it maybe just the response isn't allowed back? I don't know enough to hazard a guess but I then realized that I hadn't yet transferred the N900's public key to my server, therefore it was expecting a response. So I gen'd & copied my key over, confirmed that it worked without a password prompt over wifi, but it still failed over gprs. I even tried the IP of the box instead of the hostname, thinking that it may be a DNS issue. It wasn't. I then tried adding the -n & -N switches along with -D to ssh, thinking that perhaps they were required. They don't seem to be, still failed with a time out.

So it looks like I may have to live without email away from wifi :(. It seems that Maps works, although maybe this is more a reflection of it's offline capability, I don't know. Still strange to me how ssh, or rather non-HTTP protocols, are blocked even over port 80. Maybe someone can venture a guess on that.

Thanks guys

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Nice. I noticed that they're currently waiving the $35 setup. Is that a month-to-month or a contract? Seems the former, not sure. TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

The plan is month-to-month with no extra fees (no supposed "911 fee" etc), only taxes (PST/GST). Honestly, Fido is the cheapest plan with real data (you can even make poor-quality Skype calls over it) in Canada right now.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Is there any data plan that allows good quality VOIP calls ?

Thanks

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Considering the advantages over Speakout, it seems definitely worth the extra $10 or so it would cost me (based on my past usage).

Does Fido provide an email-to-SMS address? That's another thing Speakout doesn't. If they do, then I'm definitely sold.

TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I have no idea about email-to-SMS, since I have sent a grand total of 8 SMS messages in my entire life. The N900 has all of the IM protocols available, and I use those.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Well I just switched over to Fido month-to-month with the 500mb data & I'm pretty happy so far. I did find out the email-to-SMS adress I was looking for from this Wikipedia page (#@fido.ca), but unfortunately you get the "you must send a reply to get the actual message" BS, so it's not at all useful for what I had in mind.

I was formerly using SMS as a make-shift emergency paging system from the office. Any of the systems I monitor would send me an SMS if anything was down & I'd turn my phone on silent @ night for anything except SMS. Not perfect, but it worked. So I guess now the systems can't wake me in the middle of the night anymore. Oh well :).

Interestingly I found after reading this Wikipedia page that there is also a way to send an email message via SMS. It works but I don't see what I'd ever use it for, but hey, it's interesting :).

I still have some confusion I'll have to clear up with Fido about their plans. I signed up for the $20 month-to-month instead of the $15 'cause it had unlimited evenings & weekends, but the sales clerk pointed out that it would cost $10/month to get voice mail & call display (the only two things out of that package I want). That's $25/month. Well, if I were to instead use the $19/month prepaid plan which has the same day-time minutes & includes 300 minutes e/w (more than enough for me), that includes the two above addons, so I'd be $6/month ahead :). The only two things I find funny is that it shows the prepaid plan $6 more if I wanted automatic billing :confused: & it doesn't list the data plans as addons, so it may be that I'm already as good as it's going to get.

Of course customer service is closed for the evening, so I'll have to make time to call clear this up tomorrow.

TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Fido.ca/emailtotext. It costs $5/month to receive the message w/o having to respond. mmm? Well, if work wants to pay for my service, I'd consider it :).

TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

grog: as far as I'm aware, you can't get data add-on with prepaid. Otherwise I would have gone that route too, since I almost never use the mobile phone.

What about having your servers send you messages via e-mail, Jabber or GTalk? Then you could have your N900 alert you when one of those comes in, instead of SMS. The best thing about the N900 is that it can be on the 'Net 24/7.

I haven't tried it yet, but couldn't Tweakr be used for that purpose (selective notification)?

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I'm assuming that's the case. I haven't had time to call to confirm it.

I already use Tweakr for just that kind of thing. I've got several profiles set up - daytime, nighttime, quiet, etc. there's different settings for email, SMS, email & ring tune & volume.

That's an interesting idea. I've never played with sending IM from the command-line. Any idea what's involved?

TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I've done little digging & came up with a Pidgin of all things :), which is available for Solaris (our server's OS). It seems the hardest thing form here would be to convince our admin's to install it for me :D :(.

Anyway, I think I've gotten us far enough off topic. I'll pick this up in other threads if I get ambitious enough. Thanks for the help.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Even cheaper is via Cogenco One Zone_High Speed Internet
http://www.onezone.ca/

Limited coverage in downtown toronto - but the cost is $5 per month unlimited wifi

You need to change your useragent to iphone

1) install User Agent Switcher
2) Change user agent to something like
| Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1C6 Safari/419.3 |
3) Sign up (page is a bit flaky)
4) Browse!

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

At $45 per month Wind Mobile is the same or cheaper if its available for you

Wind
$15 50 Canada/U.S. texts, 100 minutes calls prov wide
$30 unlimited data (5 GB)

Plus they give you $150 setup

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Here is a perl script to send a Jabber message (gmail/facebook)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2074991/Ho...ages-to-jabber

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

I think the data plan at Wind is $35 if I am not mistaken ;). And Nokia Canada will not sell the N900 as of yesterday's news from Wind.

http://www.windmobile.ca/community/W...on-nokia-5230/

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Wind is certainly not the cheapest tetherable Internet in Canada.
That being said, it is the only 3G compatible with the N900 currently available in Canada.

If you live in Toronto, Calgary or Edmonton. And some people do, or so I hear.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Up to now I never understood why anyone would :)

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Ok, I can't resist :)

That's specific example for a syslog monitor, but it did lead me to sendxmpp, which seems exactly what I'd need. I checked jabber.org & they're closed for registration, but it is mentioned that I'd be able to send to a Gtalk account. So that lead me to this simple howto:

Which doesn't give an error, but how do I get the message to my phone? I created a new IM account using the gmail address that I sent the message to, but what now?

TX

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but seeing as it's high on google, I thought it might be useful for newcomers to know that I've discovered that you can get around the speakout proxy and get full internet by either making a ssh tunnel or a vpn connection on port 53 (usually used for DNS)!
You just need to change your resolv.conf to an external dns server (like 8.8.8.8).

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Wow from 2009, someone sure fired up the De Lorean!

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

but time travel is a good thing if you change it for the good of the future, he's got my vote for useful information :P

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Hi there,

Can anybody explain step-by-step how they got Speakout bluetooth tethering to work on their N900? It doesn't work at all for me. :(

I followed the instructions here for Windows 7: http://myn900.wordpress.com/2010/08/...t-3-bluetooth/

... and the N900 succesfully pairs with the my laptop but when I click "Connect to the internet" in Step 3, it says "SIM card is missing. Insert SIM card and try again".

I've tried changing the "Connect to Internet" options (in Tools > Options) to various things like:

* Rogers (Internet Tethering)
* Rogers (Rogers Internet)
* Manual:
- Access point: goam.com
- User name: wapuser1
- Password: wap
- Additional initalisation commands: (not sure? I left this blank)

... but none of the above work. It still says I'm missing a SIM card. :(

If anyone has any ideas, I'd be most grateful.

Thanks in advance!

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

is internet working normally on the n900?

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Yes, it is connected via Speakout (the connection is called "Rogers Internet"), although I must admit I don't have a very good signal right now so the connection is a little flaky.

Interestingly enough, if I connect via USB "PC Suite Mode" and then click "Connect to Internet", it allows me to connect (it says "Connected to Rogers") but when I try to open any website, it times out.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Damn, I just tried it downtown with a perfect signal and it still doesn't work (even through USB cable). :(

Anyone have any ideas?

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Nevermind, I figured it out - yay! I just had to manually configure the proxy in Firefox.

For anyone else struggling with this, here are step-by-step instructions on how to connect your PC to the internet via USB tethering your N900's Speakout GPRS connection:

1) Connect to Speakout ("Rogers Internet") on your N900 (make sure it's actually using the GPRS connection and not WIFI!)
2) Download and install the Nokia Ovi Suite
3) Connect your N900 in "PC Suite Mode"
4) Go to "Tools > Options > Connect to internet"
5) Select "Canada" for "Home country" and "Rogers (Internet Tethering)" for "Home operator"
6) Select "Tools > Connect to internet"
7) In Firefox, open "Options > Advanced > Network" and click "Settings..."
8) Choose "Manual proxy configuration", enter "10.128.1.69" as the "HTTP Proxy" and "80" as the "Port". Also check the box that says "Use this proxy server for all protocols" (this will make sure SSL works so you can visit "HTTPS" sites).

That's it! Please note: you will have to change your proxy settings in Firefox back the way they were to browse the internet on a normal WIFI connection!

I'll have to try it with Bluetooth on my laptop when I get the chance but I think it should work now...

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Damn it! It still doesn't work via bluetooth... only works via USB cable.

I can pair the N900 with my notebook just fine (browsing files works) but when I try clicking "Tools > Connect to internet", it's still returning the same error: "SIM card is missing. Insert SIM card and try again" which is bizarre since I'm able to connect via the USB cable.

I'm officially stumped. Any smart people out there who can help me? Sad face.

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Nevermind, I've figured it out! Here is a step-by-step guide on how to connect your Windows 7 PC to the internet via Bluetooth tethering your N900's Speakout GPRS connection:

1) Connect to Speakout ("Rogers Internet") on your N900 (make sure it's actually using the GPRS connection and not WIFI!)
2) Install "Bluetooth Dial-Up Networking" on your N900
3) Pair your N900 with your PC via Bluetooth (if you don't know how, just download, install & run the Nokia Ovi Suite)
4) Click Start > Devices and Printers
5) Right-click your N900 and choose "Dial-up Networking > Create a dial-up connection..."
6) Enter *99# as the Dial-up phone number and leave the rest blank
7) In Firefox, open "Options > Advanced > Network" and click "Settings..."
8) Choose "Manual proxy configuration", enter "10.128.1.69" as the "HTTP Proxy" and "80" as the "Port". Also check the box that says "Use this proxy server for all protocols" (this will make sure SSL works so you can visit "HTTPS" sites).

That's it! (Again, please remember you need to revert your proxy settings when connecting your PC to the internet via WIFI.)

It should work now. Yay, I'm so happy. :)

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

well done :) I knew you could do it...

provided you have a stable connection where you are, what's your advantage of using bluetooth over the usb?

I would be under the impression that usb tethering would be far superior to the bluetooth and the option of keeping your battery charging while you surf the net.

On the other hand, if you're like me and you live in a blackspot and the best connection is at the window, I would be tempted to use my n900 as a wifi hotspot. Search Joikuspot or QT hotspot or mobile hotspot. I believe wifi is superior to bluetooth.

Cheers,
Fred

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

Thanks, the main advantage is simple - you can whip out your laptop on a bus/train/wherever and connect without having to mess about with a cable.

I saw somewhere that you can enable Bluetooth PAN but it's a lot more of a hassle to get working (needs new kernel, etc). This is way simpler and good enough for me. :)

Re: I think I found the cheapest tetherable internet in Canada - and its prepaid
 

It doesn't work anymore by the way. I wouldn't recommend Speakout Wireless anymore - especially since they've severely limited their data plan.