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-   -   N900 - Yes, it sucks. (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35009)

pwannell 2009-11-24 21:26

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
I would love moderators to check megacrazy and unameduser and then ban IP's that are used twice for usernames. Both first posts and both write posts in exactly the same way. Megacrazy can we see a piccy of your n900 and u toogether pls?

omniscy 2009-11-24 21:26

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by brog (Post 389973)
Let me say this as an (ex-)iPhone User..
The Browser's performance isn't bad, seriously.

Exactly. I was just scrolling over the same webpage using an ipod touch, and performance was pretty much the same.
If i scroll at those speeds(wich is useless, 'cause nobody can read that fast :P ) i also get a lot of checkered parts and then i have to wait a sec or so to load that part.

brog 2009-11-24 21:26

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
The only point in time when this discussion will make any point/sense will be, when every participant in this thread actually owns an N900 and can speak for themselves.

Seriously, it is clear that we, as people who do not have the device, cannot really make a point.

I will now leave this thread and (maybe) come back when my N900 finally arrived. :)

sondjata 2009-11-24 21:26

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 389876)
Err..

2) Don't know about the older applications not working. It seems dependent on what's missing in Maemo 5 compared to Maemo 4 since some things were removed.

3) There is MaemoMapper coming for Maemo 5... Gnuite may not be working on it anymore (consider he works for Google now) but there are other developers working on it.

Right so when MM or it's equivalent comes out I'll bite.

Texrat 2009-11-24 21:27

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389964)
Really? How about the browser taking 1-2 seconds to load the page as you scroll...does that have to do with a resistive touchscreen too?

Something else not happening on my N900.

I'm starting to smell a trend...

Megacrazy 2009-11-24 21:27

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
The problem with the video is that it can't really capture how smooth the scrolling is. In real life it feels like the N900 is running at about 9 frames per second and the iPhone at about 30...if that makes sense. Android will generally run crappy right as you start scrolling but then be as smooth as the iPhone. The N900 is just jerky throughout.

Also, the browser seems to slow down and speed up randomly in how well it scrolls without opening anything or changing anything...hmmm.

Megacrazy 2009-11-24 21:29

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by pwannell (Post 389996)
I would love moderators to check megacrazy and unameduser and then ban IP's that are used twice for usernames. Both first posts and both write posts in exactly the same way. Megacrazy can we see a piccy of your n900 and u toogether pls?

Hahaha exactly what I was thinking...see what happens when you post crap about a device? More people come out with the same opinion.

Relax, I am not trolling in any way. Feel free to check as many IPs as you want.

Laughing Man 2009-11-24 21:30

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 389987)
And that wouldn't even be a fair comparison since the N900 will render everything and the iphone won't.

Couldn't you turn off the flash component though?

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Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 390000)
Right so when MM or it's equivalent comes out I'll bite.

Just pointing it out. I too look forward to MM myself.

sjgadsby 2009-11-24 21:38

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by un-named_user (Post 389968)
2. History is a painfully slow method to go back a page. Nokia needs to provide forward and back buttons in the UI

Agreed. The backspace key on the keyboard may be used to go back a page in the browser, but it often takes several tries before it works. Still, it's better than using the history.

I still haven't found a decent "forward".

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4. Lots and lots of checkered patterns while scrolling...
Agreed.

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5. I have a habit of opening a new window and going back to the previous page instantly(via the task switcher). All that happens is a 2-10 second delay before the page responds/scrolls again.
I haven't noticed that delay. I do find the new browser window tops itself, a behaviour I thought was to be left behind.

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7. Links click(finger and stylus) but the browser doesn't seem to respond once in a while.
Agreed.

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8. I like the volume control to zoom in and out...
(I don't, but go on.)

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...but then I have no means to control the volume easily when playing a flash video.
Agreed.

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10. The address bar gives suggestions whenever it pleases. A reboot later it seems to remember all the website I have visited before
Yes, there's something odd there. For a few days, just before I flashed to PR1.0, my N900 provided suggestions in the browser's address bar. It hadn't ever done that previously. I didn't even know it was supposed to.

Now that I've updated to PR1.0 the suggestions are gone again.

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1. The pdf reader really needs kinetic scrolling.
Agreed.

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2. I don't know if its relevant in every country or not. But the contacts application gives me an option to send a text msg to landlines.
Yes, that is a bit odd. I'd be happy if those entries disappeared.

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1. There has to be ctrl, shift, and the symbol key on the other side of the keyboard. Its a pain trying to do lets say ctrl+a.
Those keys are sticky. Press and release "Ctrl". Press and release "a".

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3. The screen could have been brighter
Yipes! Full brightness gives me sunburn.


As for the rest, WORKSFORME.

Bratag 2009-11-24 21:41

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389905)
Here we go some real life scrolling in the browser, flash off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JeLKKfDDM

If you want a comparative iPhone vid I can do that too but I think it's pretty much self explanatory. I might cover the actual OS later.

As far as the unit being defective...come on...seriously.

I guess I am just missing it - it seems to scroll just fine - until of course you go insane and whip your thumb (or whatever finger) up and down like a mad person. Then the page takes a small while, and to me it didnt seem like more than a second, to redraw. You can even see the grid patten in the empty space.


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