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-   -   N900 - Yes, it sucks. (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35009)

Nemo_me 2009-11-24 18:45

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Do you need to use strength to take off the back of your N900?

Megacrazy 2009-11-24 18:47

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Well the consensus seems to be that this is just step 4 out of 5 and that it's still in development and that everyone did the same thing (releasing half baked products). Sure, maybe that's the case but let's look at the competition.

What does this phone do better than the iPhone/Android?

Samsung has had widgets for how long now?

Android has had the panoramic desktop with links etc. for how long now?

So, if you are expecting to sell a product, surely it does something better than your competition...no?

The title is there to get people talking. I love this phone but that doesn't mean it doesn't fall short of the competition. Hence the "garbage" remark. It falls short of Android and of the iPhone as well.

Breece 2009-11-24 18:49

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Megacrazy, what is your problem with A2DP?

MisterSim76 2009-11-24 18:50

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389298)
Overall

+ Feels solid
+ Great screen
+ Good sound quality from speakers/phone
+ Pretty fast camera
+ Good keyboard
+ USB charging/sync
+ Customizable desktop
+ Fast GPS lock
+ Nice Task Switching
+ Very nice OS

- Scrolling anywhere is like a bunch of mini seizures, really close together. In other words, garbage. Why the hell is this not perfectly smooth like the iPhone? It's the same hardware.
- Missing features that make you go WTF: no playlists, no searching email.
- WTF do you sync with...you get OVI links from the factory yet you try ovi suite and you get "device not supported". Typical Nokia garbage.
- Desktop widgets are cool but take facebook and news...you get 2-3 lines that keep scrolling and no way to make the widget larger. Completely useless.
- Music player widget is great but does not work with A2DP. Why?
- RSS reader is slow as hell to update (wifi or not). Scrolling is painfull at best.
- Transitions in the OS are nice but they often turn choppy and fail altogether. If you want to use transitions see that 2 year old device...what was it again...oh yeah.
- Try playing music and going online at the same time. The choppy scrolling gets even worse. Can I still scroll in the browser? Yeah. Is it painful as hell? Yeah.


Browser:

+ Pages load fast considering everything it's loading.
- Scrolling through bookmarks is slow as hell. Why?
- Scrolling through pages you get the checkered pattern VERY often. Sometimes you sit there for 3-5 seconds waiting for the scroll to catch up. WTF?
- Sometimes the pages get messed up with previous pages. Half the page would be the current page, half the previous page. You have to either reload the page or scroll over the messed up area to refresh it. WTF?
- Clicking back brings up this nifty history view. Nice. Now I have to factor in 5-10 seconds every time I want to click back? Have a history button and have the back button do just that: TAKE YOU BACK. No, I don't want to press backspace.
- Flash...yeah it does flash and youtube videos. If you feel like waiting 20 seconds for the video to catch up to the audio every time you move the page while playing the video then this device is for you.


Conclusion

I could go on and on but in a few words: THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. I like it for what it can do but it doesn't do anything better than other phones out there. The experience is still painful. All the fragmented scrolling and painfull transitions make you feel like you're asking the device to do too much. Over-planned features are everywhere and yet not fully implemented (widgets, what widgets?). Basic functions are missing.

Where are the apps? WTF do you sync with? Why isn't there a central support page for this phone..etc.etc. I don't think Nokia has their stuff together and doubt they ever will. For me, this was Nokia's last chance to continue earning my business after all the garbage I bought from them over the years. Let's see how it pans out with some firmware updates but I am starting to get the feeling we're all wasting our time.

Its a shame that your experiences haven't 't equalled those of this previewer:

http://my-symbian.com/other/preview_n900.php?page=4

Megacrazy 2009-11-24 18:51

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breece (Post 389543)
Megacrazy, what is your problem with A2DP?

It doesn't work if you play music using the widget on the desktop....Maybe it's just my headphones?

pagesix1536 2009-11-24 18:52

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 389437)
Yes it does. Though playlists are nice when you want to say make one for a party, or do smart playlists (smart playlists would be a nice feature actually).

Though I wonder why there's no music program (not online like Last.FM, etc.) out there that is done via tags.

Is it reasonable to assume that once this device gets into the hands of the public, that we'll start to see some of our favorite MP3 player apps from the Linux desktop get ported over to Maemo? I'm willing to bet that when there's a void like this, the community will step up to fill it provided they are able to use the tools to make that happen. The SDK is available, I think we'll for sure see this sort of thing happen a lot.

Breece 2009-11-24 18:52

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
But it does work when playing music without the widget?

Icee 2009-11-24 18:54

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389352)

As a geek I will definitely enjoy the phone...but for normal people this will fall waaaaaay short, especially when you can go get an iphone for 200$ that can actually scroll smoothly.

Where do I find an iphone for 200$, show me, I would by a 1000 and sell them. ****ing great businesses making almost 800$ profit on one phone.

Megacrazy 2009-11-24 18:55

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breece (Post 389558)
But it does work when playing music without the widget?

Yup...It works fine with the media player.

As far as the iphone: http://www.att.com/

hihai411 2009-11-24 18:56

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icee (Post 389566)
Where do I find an iphone for 200$, show me, I would by a 1000 and sell them. ****ing great businesses making almost 800$ profit on one phone.

I think he means with a contract?


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