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vitaly_repin 2009-12-20 08:31

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
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Originally Posted by hex900 (Post 435007)
It started as "is it supported" then went in various directions.

This is the message this thread started from: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=18

It answers to your questions about Google and nuevasync.

Unfortunately, recently it was merged with existing thread and the most important message is not the very first anymore.

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My biggest issue across all services is the N900's MfE doesn't a) pull over all fields per EAS protocol spec,
It is too generic statement. Could you provide concrete examples?
I can confirm that N900 MfE does not pull over all fields per EAS protocol specs, it works only with the fields which are supported by the device itself. E.g., it makes no sense to retrieve the list of blacklisted applications from the server (the list of apps which are not allowed to be executed by server administrator) as there is no support for this functionality in the device (which is linux device, not Windows device).

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b) doesn't properly map fields (Exch07/Google are most problematic - esp. calendar/contact notes),
Examples?

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c) doesn't properly update N900 changes back to server,
If the problem occurs with google, check this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=18

If the problem occurs with legacy Exchange 2007, then provide more data, pls.

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d) IM fields are not pulled into the contact they are associated with - for Google, this is really problematic - two IM addresses = 4 contacts in addition to the primary contact they came from which no longer has an IM info. Why 4 new contacts? 1 for IM address, 1 for email of that IM address x 2 = 4. Merge 50 on your phone to correct? Doesn't 'stick' - if you have to do a full resynch, you have to re-merge PLUS the 4 additional contacts created on the phone get stuck back on Google for you to go delete a couple hundred entries.
Yep. This is protocol limitation. We have even created a hack to push ALL the contact data into the server's "Notes" field as a text. It was done during developement time but it was decided not to go with this solution as it is a "hack".

Thank you for the feedback.

jcompagner 2009-12-20 11:28

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
about the multi calendar support, i dont have a personal end buss. calendar but i do use google a lot for 1 personal one and besides that 2-3 public/shared once that are not my own like my own football schedule and the football schedule of the team i am following. I would love to be able to sync those as there own cal to the n900 currenly even nuevasync will not sync them even as 1 cal (why i dont know they seem to support it somehow the shared weather they have as an option)

but i hope that there will be a 3th party impl that just runs on the phone talking directly through the google api's and updates the cal db.

JPvdBos 2009-12-20 15:45

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 429532)
Point is taken.

Just small comment. N900 does not have java and MMS inside. Nobody cares.

Hi Vitaly,

Interesting remark you made. I did not mention Java 'cause the subject of this thread is MfE.

Java is actually item nr 2 on my wish-list. Since we use SUN solutions for thin client computing - I would love to find out if the Nokia N900 would actually be the first phone that can handle thin client. And the ability to use Java is a requirement (and the only requirement) for SUN thin client. (Using SUN Secure Global Desktop or SSGD.)

I noticed a different thread that says Java could be done. But I really hope that it will be supported "out-of-the-box" any time soon.

Any expectations around Java you care to share?

Regards,
Jan-Paul

melino 2009-12-20 20:10

MfE in N900: Can I edit hidden settings?
 
Today I have managed to bring the e-mail client of Web OS to use ‘Smart Reply’ instead of standard reply. I just had to edit a java script file.
I don't know much about Maemo. Is there a possibility to edit such a file inside the N900 too, to have MfE use Smart Reply? It already uses Smart Forward, so I am confident…

double07 2009-12-21 00:49

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Any ETA on Exchange 2003 support? Thanks.

tomster 2009-12-21 12:53

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
I am somewhat confused with how the N900 behaves when playing around a bit with the settings. OK, I do use a Scalix server, not a genuine MS Exchange, but it worked fair enough for me in the past with my E71. The N900 just won't sync.

When I enter the correct server domain on the phone I get a "Error in Exchange-server". When I put the IP address I get the well-known "Either the server requires a secure..." error. It seems that those two error messages have different causes. But why? I would assume MfE to behave exact the same way no matter what the entries would be because they both point to the exact same destination. Especially in regards of the obvious Echange 2003/2007 compatibility issue as main cause in mind?!

One thing that surprises me though is that there's no trace of certificate check. At least when trying to connect via IP address the certificate should show an error since it's only certified for the domain name, not the IP address - but it doesn't. I wonder if there's a certificate check at all...

vitaly_repin 2009-12-21 13:09

Re: MfE in N900: Can I edit hidden settings?
 
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Originally Posted by melino (Post 435644)
Today I have managed to bring the e-mail client of Web OS to use ‘Smart Reply’ instead of standard reply. I just had to edit a java script file.
I don't know much about Maemo. Is there a possibility to edit such a file inside the N900 too, to have MfE use Smart Reply? It already uses Smart Forward, so I am confident…

No. It is not the settings. It is rather mail client "feature".

melino 2009-12-21 13:11

Re: MfE in N900: Can I edit hidden settings?
 
Not sure what you mean here.
No way to bring MfE to smart reply? Even not with "deeper" modification?

SubCore 2009-12-21 13:29

Re: MfE in N900: Can I edit hidden settings?
 
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Originally Posted by melino (Post 436349)
Not sure what you mean here.
No way to bring MfE to smart reply? Even not with "deeper" modification?

didn't you read vitalys reply to a post from you in the other thread?

MfE doesn't support smart reply because the Maemo 5 Mailclient (called "Modest") needs some modifications before it's possible.

melino 2009-12-21 13:30

Re: MfE in N900: Can I edit hidden settings?
 
Ah ok, now I understand. Thank you...


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