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sljonson

2009-11-27 05:09

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by TAD88 (Post 395122)

so after I enable Extras in application manager ,How can I Know if any application present there is safe for noob or not safe i.e application from Extras-testing or Extras-devel ?

Tap on the Application and then tap on the Details button. The last field 'Catalog' on the Summary tab will tell your what Application Catalog the software is in. Maemo Extras is considered a safe Application Catalog. Even newbie should be OK using that software. There is no * Testing nor * Development software in the Maemo Extras catalog.

Maemo ExtrasTesting and Maemo Extras Development are totally separate Application Catalogs which aren't included on the base firmware release. You have to manually add those application catalogs to be able to install any software located there. Extras Testing software is generally getting close to release so they might be OK for an adventuresome newbie. You should consider Extras Testing as release candidates. There still may be problems with them. And unless you really know what you are doing, avoid Maemo Extras Development catalogue because you can protentially break a lot of things by install software from Development. Avoid it like the plague.

TAD88

2009-11-27 16:01

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 395148)

Thank you for this beautiful explanation .

nirave

2009-11-27 16:38

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 395148)

Thanks for this you've explained A LOT to me :-)

christexaport

2009-12-05 23:26

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 394728)

It downloads the maps to the internal memory. Hefty. Google maps in browser IMO is a better option with Edge or better connection.

Maemo's solution is of greater advantage since it requires no connection at all once you've loaded the maps. People tend to get lost in remote locations, and sometimes a signal is unavailable. Ovi Maps really shines in these situations. And I don't see why everyone finds Maemo's Ovi Maps so hard to swallow. It works just great for me.

And 2gb is really nothing for a whole country worth of maps when you have 32gb of built in storage and a microSD slot for a possible 16gb extra portable storage. I remember when 8gb was a beastly amount for a phone...

christexaport

2009-12-05 23:28

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by jjx (Post 394843)

Unfortunately with no data connection it appears the AGPS does not work.

It's not clear if that's a bug or by design, and if it's bug, whether it will get fixed.

AGPS uses the cellular data connection to log into a location server that prefetches your location based on the cellular towers. It won't work without a data connection. AGPS stands for assisted GPS, and it lets you get a fix in seconds, vs. a few minutes without it.

christexaport

2009-12-05 23:34

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by myk (Post 394862)

Useful review, thanks. No surprise on the maps. I found maps on Symbian and on Maemo 2008 both awful, at least using Australian maps, compared to Google or tomtom etc. I hope we will see "Maemo Mapper" ported to maemo-5, but dream of a native google-maps app.

Maps in the US are excellent, but may be lacking in some locales. However, the entire globes maps will be getting a marked improvement soon. I was lucky enough to get to personally question the Ovi Maps guys as well as some guys from the satellite launching company, and Nokia has contracted with Digital Globe, who just launched the Worldview-2. Worldview-2 is the most advanced imaging satellite available, and is capable of capturing the highest resolution map data in the universe.
http://worldview2.digitalglobe.com/
Google may have those camera bikes, and they track you while using Google Maps to record where you are travelling to use as pseudo map data, but Nokia/Navteq has the clear advantage as far as map data quality, and Google even buys some maps from Nokia for outside the US.

christexaport

2009-12-05 23:37

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 394962)

We are all new to Maemo 5. Even to a veteran Maemo user like myself, the N900 is a new animal. The new UI is so much different even I'm lost at times. But I don't know if I can get use to the new application launcher. I really don't like have al of my app icons crammed into a single space like they do. I hope someone will whip of a app launcher replacement that's more like Diablo. One that is more menu/folder oriented so I can bring some orgranization to it.

From looking at this device closely, I think the menu isn't even intended to be used much. You can categorize most of your favorite apps according to how or why you use them by placing them on particular desktops in various custom locations. You create menus on your own from the desktop and use the system menu as a last resort. I keep a communication tools desktop, a media desktop, a weather/maps/system info desktop, and a miscellaneous desktop for new apps I'm in the process of trying out.

j.s	2009-12-07 03:25

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 394107)

4. I expected 28gb free, but as soon as you install maps, it eats up almost 2gb!

My n900 had 1.5GB in /home/user/MyDocs/cities right out of the box. When I couldn't find any way to turn on the GPS without the popup from Nokia warning that huge internet data transfers are required to use GPS, I finally gritted my teeth and clicked agree. (I was on wifi.) I then started maps. After it got a lock, it seems cities got anothe 4MB.

Since I now know that the GPS on my n900 works, I'll just have to try to be patient until Maemo Mapper is available for the N900.

I don't want yet another GPS, but, not counting the openmoko freerunner and the n810, I don't have a bluetooth GPS and didn't think that I wanted one, I guess I'll eventually get one to use with the n900.

mrdelgibbons

2009-12-08 17:29

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

Uploaded a quick video of my newbie experiences of the N900;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaIQt4UEp4

:D

christexaport

2009-12-09 02:44

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by mrdelgibbons (Post 416923)

Uploaded a quick video of my newbie experiences of the N900;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaIQt4UEp4

:D

Good vocal projection. I'd know you were a pro without seeing your site. Did you study communications in school, start with acting, or get into the business some other way?

Good device overview.

Markosib

2009-12-09 03:11

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

Agree Chris. Well mrdelgibbons...very professional overview! Makes me feel good about my pending delivery after all the negative stuff. Cant wait, thanks!!!

Markosib

2009-12-09 03:25

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

And Rushmore...also great! So good to read of the positive and objective experiences of of absolute noobs. I think the Maemo has landed!!!

spinnukur

2009-12-09 03:31

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

nm, found the answer else where.

awesome

2009-12-09 09:04

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by mrdelgibbons (Post 416923)

Uploaded a quick video of my newbie experiences of the N900;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaIQt4UEp4

:D

I really enjoyed your review. Thanks :)

skzo	2009-12-09 09:40

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

Now that's a good review. thanks !

Last night i played 5 min with the n900 for the first time. I'm sold !

Good size
Good overal feeling
Touch screen is good
Keyboard is great

I'm just waiting to see the vodafone spain price for the device.

mrdelgibbons

2009-12-10 06:59

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

Cheers guys...just thought I should put over my experience. The N900 just blows everything I've used away and the potential is awesome (and I've had an N80, N93, N95, N95 8Gb, Samsung i8510, i8910 HD, and iPhone - shudder-)

Regarding the resistive screen: I prefer being able to use the stylus at times to be honest, especially with this crazy high resolution! Call me old fashioned.

Just need to eek a bit more battery life, get the OVI store up, and solve a few niggles in the firmware; but this is the most stable initial firmware any of my Nokia's have ever had.

christexaport - thanks for the compliment...I studied for a degree and masters in music on the piano and violin at uni; so I guess I went into a semi-related performance industry lol :D

osfight.de

2009-12-10 11:59

Re: N900 review from a Maemo noob

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Originally Posted by suihkulokki (Post 394238)

Thanks, noob views are highly valued :) Thou I think absolute n00b is a bit exaggaration - absolute n00b would be coming from Nokia 3310 or Motorola razr rather from an android device :)

Did you enable the extras repository? It is included in application manager, but disabled by default:

* Go into the Application manager.
* Tap the menu -> Tools -> Application catalog...
* Double-tap maemo Extras.
* Uncheck Disabled.

The app name is fmradio, I believe.

"Extras" is the noob-safe repository,
"Extras-testing" is for the community people who want to test new apps, and
"Extras-devel" is only for truly adventurous experts

Note that the "ovi maps" versions between maemo and symbian don't correlate - they are completle different products at the moment. Future firmwares should make the maps experience less frustrating. but, I 'm afraid for a truly great map application the best bet would be a separate 3rd party app or a community application being ported.

This is upto google to create, since I believe google voice api is not open for developers.

Maemo Mapper is going to be ported, that is what people tell. It is supposed to be great, but have no experience, as I did not have NOkia for years.

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