Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

But is it unfinished? It is not an S60 phone, yet everyone seems to expect that it has all the features S60 phones have.

It is a new kind of device which exists parallel to the S60 devices, and is a new platform which - yes - needs to mature. On the other hand I have features which I cannot find on an S60 phone. But I don't expect S60 phones to have an xterm for example.

And the specifications of the device have been available since August, and none of the features people seem to be used to from their S60 phones have been mentioned in there. If you absolutely need these features, S60 seems to be the right platform at the moment. And you could try to reapply for a maemo phone a bit later.

If you want something else, the N900 could be your phone. But as said: The specs have been open, so I don't understand the sudden surprise moment here.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

So where does the N900 "not work properly" - besides the hardware issues some have with the broken microphones?

Or doesn't it just live up to your expectations (whereever they came from)? Many phones don't live up to mine, too - but I wouldn't call them broken.

I just wouldn't consider buying them, then. For me the N900 is what I want to have - the phone features are plenty for me, but I really want to have the open platform behind it. Your mileage may vary.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

Yes. But if it doesn't fit your vision of a phone, it clearly isn't the right phone for you. The iphone for example clearly isn't the right phone for me, even as Apple operates on the same basis - but I can accept that and don't throw fits on some apple board.

The N900 is the phone for people who see the N900 as the phone they want. Nothing more, nothing less.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

Well, then this is not the phone for you. Then you need to buy a different phone which does what you want. But please let me have the phone I want which might be different from yours.

I really don't understand some people.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

Can we stop that "It's a new kind of device" thing?
The name is "Maemo 5" because it's the 5th version of an OS that was introduced to the public in 2005.

What they did was drop quite a few features (pity) and add some. It's not a new kind of device. It's the long overdue successor to the N810, something we thought would be released in 2008.

Looking at it from a distance and comparing it to the 4 previous iterations of Maemo, it seems 80% of the work has gone into the UI. Well. That's one strategy.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

This is a great feature in S60. Though I currently, have the N900, I am still using my N95 because of the "used to" features that are missing.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

Although that is true, it is also true that this is the First maemo phone. In that respect it is the first maemo device doing this, and that is probably why it is lacking certain phone capabilities.
It still needs to mature in the phone department.

But everything else seems a lot more mature to me than previous maemo versions ;P

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

And my question would be how anybody registered in September 2009 didn't now that this was "step 4 out 5"? Anybody registered on this board should have known about what Nokia said in Nokia World and what many Nokia employees have said on this board. Maemo 6 will be consumer version. Maemo 5 sits somewhere between consumer friendly and the previous "science project"-like Maemo products.

We have strange viral videos about cyborg-penguins spewing stuff about open-source. What we don't have is a mass market aimed TV and newspaper advertisements. We have Nokia making pretty clear on each step of the way that Maemo 5 isn't and shouln''t be a mass market consumer device.

Call me silly fanboi, if you want, but items on OP's list are owerwhelmingly stuff that Nokia never promised. The bugs in release firmware are different matter. Current e-mail problems, for example, are inexcusable and shouldn't be there at release. I both expect and want Nokia to fix those quickly. I don't expect Nokia to do things that were never supposed to be there until Maemo 6, like real support for portrait mode.

Maybe Nokia's real error was to underestimate the interest it's brand alone would bring to N900/Maemo 5. The delays in N900's release due to unexpected demand seem to indicate so. Nokia's brand alone seems to have peeked interest from lot of people who didn't know what they were getting into.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

That's a good point. They might have fared better if it was released under a different brand name, maybe not even branding it a Nokia phone but "Nokia Research M5" or something. Let people discover it a bit more slowly.

Re: I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions
 

But, see, that's actually part of the problem for many readers here. We KNOW about the reported drawbacks thanks to al those threads. :D

Time to move past recognition, though, and toward resolution... to that aim, the post below the one I'm quoting is a good starting point!