Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

I don't know why we are straying from the real issue here, but as you yourself say, the first post is not a buyers/decision post, It's a bashing post - unfortunately too subtle for our nice over permissive mods to correct.

As for the 3G I had it for quite while and when it comes to slow (heavy usage & lots of installs uninstalls, filled memory) It's as slow as you can get.

BUT I won't go on and turn this thread into a bashing thread even if picking on an iPhone is like taking candy from a baby.

Point is that mods on this forum, far too often turn the other cheek to unfair statements.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

That's what make iPhone, which is successfully targeting the majority. I don't have a problem with that. So your point is...

I see your argument, you thought I meant in my words "Nokia compromises on nothing". Nokia is not God, they must compromise on a lot of things. We should not waste time on obvious.

My question "Why should Nokia compromises?" refers to the issues of our discussion, not everything. Should I detail in every sentence to explain the obvious? I hope not.

Which word should I eat? Did I say anything that sounds like 'N900 has fully utilized its hardware to maximum usability experience'? I just said you made an unfair comparison with iPhone.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

You seem to want a more restrictive rules even though just about everything this community/platform/tech/product about is freedom and openness.

I don't see why anyone needs a mod's assistance in these cases.

If I remember correctly, the thread was made in response of the numerous "why didn't you research it?" replies when there were complaints against N900 whereas all previous complaints were dismissed/attacked, making an unbiased 'research' pretty much impossible to do in this forum.

@9000: I suggest you reread my post... (slowly and calmly). you've missed a couple of important points there.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

Don't worry, I always read with smiles on my face and reply cheerfully. XD

Take it easy. ^^

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

No, I seem to want an objective buyers guide and not a poster that suggests users to get an iPhone in nice english ;)

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

PR 1.2 is still without provisioning! Which means I can't receive my work email

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

I have my N900 since January and I can agree with almost the entire list.

You could add that nokia is giving up Maemo, and... the worse, Meego will not be supported on N900. Bad nokia, no donuts for you.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

I don't know if he's getting paid for thius post, but I'm pretty sure you are filling your wallet with so absurd comment. None? Thatś hilarious. Maybe you have another phone. =]

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

The list he gave was a summary of all the problems encountered by all the users in the entire maemo community, and it has already been proven down the thread that he made them up as if they're entirely coming from his personal experience. At the end Bec proved that he didn't even own a N900 himself, that was awkward for many people who believed him at the beginning.

Now that you stand up to support him in hope to prolong the dead thread, this time our focus will be different. The only answer you get would be "GO GET PR1.2". Period.

While it's so obvious that you haven't even followed the discussions here as you missed a lot of post regarding official PR1.2 and Meego for N900, your intention to selectively choose this particular long thread to read and answer really buffles me.

Keep up the good work. Have a nice day.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

problem for me

1.Cannot dial numbers starting with * or # without the use of a free third party widget so without the third party widget you are unable to top up your credit or check your balance in certain countries. This is expected to be fixed in the next firmware update.

2.slider too loose when call comes it vibrate.


how can i fix both

by fajar

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

1. Is solved by PR 1.2
2. It isn't loose.

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 

Either update your phone - should have asked for that automatically, or get an N900 in the first place ;)

2. It's actually tight, 7 months and still waiting for a somewhat more spring jump behavior. Still like day one unfortunately.

make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

**** ANYONE WHO HAS ISSUES WITH THIS THREAD REPORT IT OR DO SOMETHING BETTER, THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY****

comment ur issues and i'll add em on this post to make it more easy for ppl by not making them surf 900+ posts
thank you

*add suggestions that can actually be changed i.e not hardware based*

1) no say callers name or different ringtones

2) n95 has better camera quality *in my opinion* **i'll test and confirm this**

3) no vsync in messages *scrolling and frame rate*

4) virtual keyboard is difficult to use

5) and flash 10 was promised, *yes, i contacted nokia via email, europe didnt reply, mea had the same typical "we're sorry that u are having issues with ur nokia device"

6) and speaker sound is damn low when i turn it on during calls and why switch the screen off when its on loud speaker?

7) no voice navigation and it has has nothing to do with qt

8) and app manager refreshing is waay to slow

9) widgets missing, during changing themes and if selected again, they come back to their original position

10) offline gps location finding?
is this a hardware limitation?
coz n900 consumes lots of data when online

11) it would be nice if software update could be checked in an adjustable time period coz again, i loose all my credit *prepaid* when it suddenly checks for app updates

12) internet access customizable like s60v5.. java apps
each can set which apps can use net and how to notify

13) i read the bugjar thingy, didnt get a technical sh*t
can someone tell me what happened to the BME becoming open source for the host mode project?

14) can someone confirm that n900 can never have multi touch support.. i read in wikipedia that resistive can have multitouch and it was provided to windows mobile *htc i think* recently..
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58193

15) its laggy and 500mhz min is safe to use, even if u keep 600mhz max and the laggyness goes away

16) cant repeat songs, jus play-lists

17) if someone can come up with a widget for dialer, i've seen one around but its too small
if someone cal make a portrait based widget *dun care if ti takes up the whole screen*, i'll be glad coz opening up the dialer flips the screen *which is slow* and we also have to tap again for the dialer

18) all components open source or contribution on research projects and porting of other OS which require drivers of closed components

19) media player should have a specific folder to look into rather than the whole memory *recorded calls for example, dont wanna them to be played after my song is over*

20) copy contacts TO simcard is missing

21) portrait apps to say the least like sms or photo browser with a portrait based virtual keyboard

22) call duration, record of past calls and their duration along with internet *not wifi*

23) Videos stutter a lot for the first few seconds of play back.

24) Scrolling through a long list can be quite jerky. For example if you are scrolling through the thumbnails of your photos.

25) Sometimes the phone rings with a blank screen for a few seconds so no way to answer the phone. I know a few others have had this issue but not sure how wide spread it is.


26) there is no equalizer for media player

27) there is no power saving mode *and power-saving, i meant like s60 has a system like.. when the battery is like 5-10%, the screen brightness will be reduced.. and if they limit processor state too or switch it to powersaving as governor, that could actually be useful*

if someone else has any issues or something they'll like to share, add em and i'll edit this post for convince

*** credit goes to the community as i'm jus searching threads and adding known problems along with unknown ones.
**** yes, there should be a sarcasm tag here
and oh
all of u who read this should try it
i'm jus sayin

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

Is this a thread where you are looking for help or just to vent your frustrations?

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

Ive always wanted to say this:






*grabs popcorn*

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

*grabs popcorn*

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

annoyed
and updates bout the camera issue
and brainstorm too
figured maemo was the best section for this

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

sure, i b*tch alot, but i also waited 3 months for pr1.2 for what?
ussd fixed?
coz i honestly didnt need all my apps in the main menu, i prefered rearranging the extras folder

*edit, can i get some popcorn too?

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

No, no popcorn for trolls and people who can't use search. There's solutions on like all your problems and you just ranting. Now back to the popcorn!

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

this is a combined thread for all the issues
do u have any idea how many replies there are for the flash 10 thread?
how the fu*k do u think i'll read all of it?
and all they are doing exactly what im doing, b*tching

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

Isn't Topic for topic and the thread is for msg? and yes, thank you, you are first that paid attention, there are no hundreds of the topics with same issues. As well thank you for very detailed information
(is there sarcasm tag here?)

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

LOL and you called me an idiot... ll just give the advice u gave me...

reflash your phone ;)

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

so uve been stalking me this whole time?
dude
im taken
sorry

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

really?
do me a favour, add the details ure talking about
i wanna see how good you are oh all knowing

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

lol, I see what you did there

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

I can understand your frustration. There are lots of goodies about N900, but Nokia support and the future of N900 is not among them.

I am personaly interested, what are the solutions for low volume during calls (for me the biggest issue, disasslambling N900 and changing the position of speaker is not a solution) and flash 10 (could live without, but nice to have).

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

Dude, all I have is a request. :) Can you check your language please?

It adds nothing to your gripes and I imagine it reduces the amount of people who will ultimately read your opinion.

The N900 may have had these issues out of the box but it is still the only device I know of that you, I, or an average user can devise, develop, and install work around's for a great deal of its short comings real, or imagined...
Everything has short comings.

The N900 is also long on tooth, having been the first to present the hardware and the means to perform some of the tasks that you may want.

Newer phones/devices now have the software to perform some of these tasks available out of the box.


But guess what?

Those new boxes were not around when the N900 was first unboxed.

...and still, very few of these new boxes come with devices that have all the potential capabilities that the N900 has.

But alas, some of those new boxes contain devices that perform some of those tasks much better than a N900 running Maemo will ever be able to do. As a result of this, some of our members have moved on to some of those other devices.


But guess what again?

You won't find a lot of their used N900's for sale. I imagine that's because many N900 owners would rather keep 'em in the family.

I can think of no portable device to teach someone about computing in general, software development, and Mobile OS design that is better than the N900.

Now if you're following me so far (and haven't just blown off this post as it seems you have done to the thousands of member generated responses in the many other threads similar to this one) then it's conceivable that those used N900's are handed down to young sons and daughters.

In one case I know of, a member handed it up to his mother so she could learn on the thing. :cool:

I also know that I wouldn't want my mother reading your expletives if she came here for help or advice. :eek:

The simple response is to say that people like her don't have to come here but, that's the thing...

My mom's pretty smart, and if she had an N900 and didn't come here then we would have one less smart person contributing to the forum. Savvy?

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

ok
sorry for being agressive, but
half the bugs are software based and not considered bugs by nokia
its not about the time of arrival of device coz i believe the hardware is awesome and quite powerful

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

Oh, you changed the title. Well in that case, sometimes it's difficult to edit text with the virtual keyboard. That's about it for me

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

want the old keyboard back?
what do u wanna change?

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

TADA. you answered yourself - "all they are doing exactly what im doing, b*tching". so what is the point?
And if there would be any solution to flash or whatever, you would know it. as well, it's your f'ing problem that you are lazy to read. do you want people to feed you from spoon or what?

http://www.hydrotoys.com/wavs/DontFeedTheTroll1.jpg

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

Here's a list of my gripes:

The N900, when in portrait mode, is upside down.

And dust gets into the speaker hole too easily.

Errrrrm............

Errrrrm............

Oh and the kickstand is in the wrong place, cos when you tap the top right of the screen the phone rocks back rather worryingly.
It's pretty scary when you're perched high up on a 4 inch wide ledge in the Andes.

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

the last problem i have..the scrolling and the framerate. fix that and this phone is PERFECT!!

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

The only time I get that is after some heavy use or when one of the widgets, Personal Dataplan Monitor being the main culprit, updates itself. But I believe it could also be down to the theme you're using.

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

I have only one main problem that is related to the N900:

I can't read through a forum about it without a bunch of whiners and trolls.

Re: camera sound freezing/no equalizer/no powersaving mode/no say callers name/ camera quality/no vsync/ no flash 10/ speaker sound too low during calls/ no voice nav/ app manager too slow
 

I already started a thread trying to set out all the issues with the N900. Was meant to be a sort of buyers' guide or buyers' beware. Despite doing it with good intentions some fanboys attacked me as a troll. Sort of gave up because I found that kind of discouraging and secondly cause my N900 succumbed to the usb port issue and so has been gone for a while.

here is the link to the thread.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35391

You can update the issues there. And add any you have, etc. Some of the issues listed in the first post may have been fixed with PR 1.2 but as I have no N900 for now I do not know. Of course PR 1.2 appears to have introduced some new issues which are not listed in the post.

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

This is a popcorn fanboy eating thread ha ha dont expect anything good to happen here not with the fanism we got on this community.

Gripe away but wont get Nokia moving now as the N900 is dead and buried as far as they are concerned so if you want to do something then fix all the issues yourself... best way.

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

the main issue (if you can say so) i'm having right now is that every other major nokia phone (like x6 or n97/mini) is being sold with car-kit and free voice-turn-by-turn navigation here in germany.

its just the n900 thats being skipped with that. i guess its because of sygics navigation, but i still want to nokia maps to support voiced turn-by-turn.

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

a real blunder is the positioning of the headphone jack, it gets in the way of the keyboard..

Re: make a list of all the issues u have with ur n900
 

cant really do anything bout that, its more like the way the n900 is made
i mean, its a design factor, cant be changed now