Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

So you agree with me, mrojas? Or am I mad for nothing? Bring some balance into this, because Nokia has tipped my scale. I'm SICK of the training wheels. Wasn't Maemo for the advanced and Symbian for the masses??

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Qole, so no option exists at this time?

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Well, as other people have said, you can use the command line ("gateway to awesomeness" :) and my personal fave), or one of the other available file managers, which tend to be fairly non-intuitive and hard to use. I'm hoping for a middle ground, which I don't believe exists right now.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I'm an ooold Dos, Unix and VAX scripting guy who used to eat live and breathe command line goodness. Ah yes, editing vi files on a ComputerVision CAD system-- o yay!

But now I guess I'm too old to enjoy that masochistic stuff at this point- because like Chris and others I want a powerful GUI approach to file management. Qole is spot on in his assessment IMO.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Well, I was in the same situation back in the day for similar reasons. Didn't want to use the command line unless I absolutely had to, so I tried File Explorers until emelfm solved my problem.

Be patient my friend! You yourself said that Symbian's default FE was awful, and eventually third parties provided more complete ones. I am sure the same will happen eventually, Maemo is still young.

Because I believe that while the command line is an acceptable option, it shouldn't be the only one.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

It's not a real solution, but for a start you could access the location "file:///" in the (web) browser, to at least browse the file system.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Thanks, Shanezlar, but that helps as much as CLI. How do I know what to type when I don't know what is there? Just let me look on my own. Its time to lose the training wheels.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Propose to enable an Advanced mode in FM so that we can navigate wherever we want in the file system...

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Actually, if you point your browser at

file:///

you won't need to type further.. Just use it like a file manager in readonly mode and click on stuff you want to look at. There's even a "show hidden stuff" option which ... defaults to ON !:eek:

You could even bookmark it and put it on your desktop..

It's a pretty good suggestion, imho. If you want to more specifically look in user's home directory, do the same for file:///home/user/

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I'm no hacker, and I don't find emelFM2 complex. It could stand to be more polished (e.g., commands accessible from an on-screen drop-down menu), but I didn't find it needed to be simpler (at least once a key to the icons was published and I learned that I sometimes had to launch it from root).

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

So do you tape that picture on the back of your tablet or something? :eek: ;)

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Chris, I think it would be best if there was an advanced mode in the file browser that will show you the files... but I still don't really like it running as root (as I would imagine it would have to if you want to do anything with the files instead of just reading them). I find that kind of dangerous and irresponsible in a Linux distro and kills the security advantage.

Like a red pill mode as mentioned earlier in the thread.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I have learned that it really is a feature, not a bug, to hide system/admin data from the typical user of a "file browser".

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I too use emelFM2 all the time (n800), very convenient to see all the files/directories. I have a shortcot in Personal Launcher. The dual pane view is much easier to move files around than the default file manager.

I even have a shortcut in Personal Menu setup to run it as (gasp) root. I guess I'm very lucky that a hacker hasn't swooped in and hijacked my sytem during one of those brief sessions, nor has my tablet burst into flames or been bricked!

Sure it's not the best idea, but it is occasionally needed, and it's nice to know it's there. I look forward to seeing it on my n900 (provided it ever ships).

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Didn't fit. Had to tattoo it on my girlfriend's back. Which works out well since I'm usually using my N800 in bed. But she does get comments at the gym.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Isn't Midnight Commander available for Fremantle? I thought I saw it somewhere on a video. Could be an alternative till something pops up with a GUI.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Bump, since no-one answered. I'd try myself, but my future N900 is still in Nora's cupboard, so I'm asking you people of good will.
Is emelfm2 from maemo4 repos working on the n900? Or the perversity of the new widget libraries prevents its use?
Come on, just download it and dpkg -i... Qole? :)

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

yes.

wasn't the maemo work in progress?

and training wheels... this is ridiculous. so you mean that if you have a 400bhp car, you dont need to install seatbelts because if you drive 300km/h to the concrete wall, you die anyway. or what are you trying to say?

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Just use Midnight Commander. With half-a-screen virtual keyboard gone and the physical keyboard finally usable, it is way more convenient on N900 than it was on N8x0.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

After hearing it showed all files, gave it a try, and I have to say its highly workable. Thanks kwotski and SHANEZLAR. I almost missed a gem. this'll work until a full solution arrives.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

DCIM needs to be there for the device to be recognized as camera (for photo import to PC etc.). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_...ra_File_system. (Actually N900 does not follow other rules, but that still works.)

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

None of the Symbian devices had that problem, and apps recognize them fine. Sure you know what you're talking about?

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Could it be that under Symbian the "DCIM" is abstracted?

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I don't mind my device having "DCIM" as the folder name for my camera pictures. I just don't like the File Manager "abstracting" everything by changing the folder names. At the very least, I want to be able to switch to "advanced" mode and see everything the "right" way.

I must admit that the file:// trick is very clever, though...

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Here is emelfm2.
The adventurous can test and report.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I've added emelfm2 to my Fremantle repository. N900 users can install it by adding my repo to your list.

Just a warning, though. My repository is generally for not-in-Fremantle-repos packages. Be careful what you install from there!

Catalogue Name: Qole
Web address: http://qole.org/repository
Distribution: maemo
Components: fremantle

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Is this the same build that we run in Diablo? I thought a porting process was necessary to run a Diablo app under Fremantle. Does it work in Fremantle same as it does in Maemo 4?

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Ok, I bit the bullet and installed it.

Meh.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/...6b40ef4b_o.png

I'd say it's a fail.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Consider the screenshot from my n810 in comparison: the new widgets from maemo 5 are too big and ugly.
I think that my first project when I get the device will be to run binaries with old widgets from maemo 4 by the use of some kind of sandbox environment (ld_preload? chroot?).
I can't understand why loads of software ported to maemo 4 are to be thrown away - it's stupid.

EDIT if you dig into emelfm2 configuration, you'll find several places where you can select menu icon and text width. I bet that playing with these controls you can obtain an usable view.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

All we need is emelfm2 looking exactly as it does on the N810...perhaps a bit more polished as was said before, but I dont find it completely necessary to make it look all "fremantley" lol It will be a must have for me so I can change icons, startup images/sounds/whatever and edit .desktop files to change the displayed names of apps...sometime I just dont care for what an app is named. Such as Pidgin...I find it silly and since I only use Yahoo IM I rename it "Yahoo Messenger"

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I do not think "we" need emelfm2. It is notoriously quirky and running it on even smaller screen will not make it better. If I understand correctly, nobody here can make himself use Midnight Commander? If that is the case, "we" may just need a new file manager instead. May I suggest porting ROX Filer again, this time porting it well? Here is the homepage:

http://roscidus.com/desktop/ROX-Filer/

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

I am sure a lot of the new users can manage Midnight Commander, and I have no issue with regard to using a non "frementalized" application utilizing the stylus for navigation. An optimized version is always welcome. But having a quick alternative for the time being is necessary as well.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Midnight Commander is a console application, and thus does not require fremantlization. Also, it does support the stylus for navigation, as XTerm will convert stylus clicks to mouse clicks.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Yes I am aware that MC is console based and doesn't require fremantalizing. I was talking about emelfm2 not being fremantalized yet, as in not optimized for the fremantle GUI guidelines (Hildon 2.2).

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Emelfm2 is impossible to use on the tablet, whether it is fremantalized or not. It simply requires more screen estate than the tablet makes available. This (and the UI craziness) has long been a problem with Emelfm2 on N8x0, and N900 uses even smaller screen.

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Maybe one of the file managers Thunar or PCManFM may be good to be ported.. Respectively file managers of XFCE and LXDE, they look to have a clean interface (not too busy with too many icons and parts), and are light.
They're both GTK anyway, maybe something in QT is better for future compatibility?
Just as a suggestion anyway, I cannot help, and my knowledge is very limited. :D

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Just disagreeing. It is not "impossible to use on the tablet." Apparently not all NIT users are fans of emelFM2, but some of us are.

Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Ok, look at using emelfm2 on the N900 like this... I never use it in fullscreen mode on my N810, therefore, using it in fullscreen on the N900 would make it approximately the same size as using it now, non fullscreen

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Yes, you can use it by squinting at the screen, using stylus to click buttons or scroll through a tiny list showing you 3-5 filenames at a time. But...why? Especially when there are saner alternatives...

Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 

Like SSH and an SFTP client. ;)