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GeraldKo 2009-12-02 17:09
Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 405269)
Like SSH and an SFTP client. ;)
But I don't necessarily have a computer with me when I want to do something in the guts of my N800, so SSH won't help me at those times. emelFM2 will.

There may be better alternatives than emelFM2 that could be ported to Maemo -- my knowledge is very limited in that regard. But I know that it serves a purpose for me not served by command line nor by SSH, and that, unlike other potential Linux file managers, emelFM2 has been ported to Maemo.

adrianp 2009-12-03 07:06
Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 405269)
Like SSH and an SFTP client. ;)
Or even better ssh and emacs/tramp:p

christexaport 2009-12-03 07:48
Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fms (Post 404732)
I do not think "we" need emelfm2. It is notoriously quirky and running it on even smaller screen will not make it better. If I understand correctly, nobody here can make himself use Midnight Commander? If that is the case, "we" may just need a new file manager instead. May I suggest porting ROX Filer again, this time porting it well? Here is the homepage:

http://roscidus.com/desktop/ROX-Filer/
I like the looks of that app. it will be familiar to a Windows user, and the icon view appeals to me. Can it be redone in Qt? And what about Dolphin?

Ghule 2009-12-03 08:11
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
May not help alot. But if all you want to do is look around at all the files on your device. You can open the web browser and type "file:" in the address bar. The web browser seems to show lots more stuff than the File browser.

spann 2009-12-10 11:26
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Ok - here is another simple file manager question.

How do I copy files (from within MyDocs) to the sd card using the file manager?

Maybe I'm missing something, I hoped the file manager would have showed the card after I inserted it. Or do I need to reboot before it shows up? Or does it not show up at all!?

Thanks,
Spann

Blackbeard 2009-12-10 11:39
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spann (Post 420607)
Ok - here is another simple file manager question.

How do I copy files (from within MyDocs) to the sd card using the file manager?

Maybe I'm missing something, I hoped the file manager would have showed the card after I inserted it. Or do I need to reboot before it shows up? Or does it not show up at all!?

Thanks,
Spann
Minutes ago I moved mp3 folders from MyDocs to SD. SD showed up in the file manager and I just picked "move" from the menu.

debernardis 2009-12-24 09:48
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
1 Attachment(s)
I optified the emelfm2 package available on qole's site (0.5.0-rev29) and tweaked the config file for a better gui. The package was somewhat too large so couldn't be attached to the post; it's here.

(I uploaded it on my site with maemoftp which quite luckily works under Maemo5 too :) . Should someone like an optified version, lacking only some icons which likely came from the maemo4 system, it's here.)

claesbas 2009-12-24 11:22
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
I really like the way I use Nautilus in Ubunto... I just open a "sudo nautilus" and then I can edit config files with gedit.. I am visual/artistisc person and just finds it very hard to use terminal and think in those terms.. I would like to be able to but the filemanager in sudo mode and see and edit all files as I do in Ubuntu

debernardis 2009-12-24 13:44
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by claesbas (Post 440162)
I really like the way I use Nautilus in Ubunto... I just open a "sudo nautilus" and then I can edit config files with gedit.. I am visual/artistisc person and just finds it very hard to use terminal and think in those terms.. I would like to be able to but the filemanager in sudo mode and see and edit all files as I do in Ubuntu
You just open xterm, type 'sudo gainroot', then 'emelfm2', and you're there. :o

claesbas 2009-12-27 12:28
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 440255)
You just open xterm, type 'sudo gainroot', then 'emelfm2', and you're there. :o
Ok, cool.. I tried that but it didn't find the emelfm2 thing. As a noob I tried "apt-get install emelfm2" aswell but it did not find anything there either.. I am guessing I need to install something from devel to get this.. ?

claesbas 2009-12-27 12:44
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 440122)
I optified the emelfm2 package available on qole's site (0.5.0-rev29) and tweaked the config file for a better gui. The package was somewhat too large so couldn't be attached to the post; it's here.

(I uploaded it on my site with maemoftp which quite luckily works under Maemo5 too :) . Should someone like an optified version, lacking only some icons which likely came from the maemo4 system, it's here.)
Ahh, in qoles. I got it from dl link there

qole 2009-12-31 23:07
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 440122)
I optified the emelfm2 package available on qole's site (0.5.0-rev29) and tweaked the config file for a better gui. The package was somewhat too large so couldn't be attached to the post; it's here.

(I uploaded it on my site with maemoftp which quite luckily works under Maemo5 too :) . Should someone like an optified version, lacking only some icons which likely came from the maemo4 system, it's here.)
Thanks, I've replaced the version in my repo with yours, and I've added your optified maemo-ftp too.

EDIT: Post 5600, I need to get out more. :eek:

ruskie 2009-12-31 23:21
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Hmm for a file manager I think rox-filer would be great for the N900 but it would need to be hildonized.

geneven 2010-01-01 13:40
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
I think that deliberately hiding part of the file system from users is not only evil but it's downright Microsoftian (and Applelike, too). It is not something that any of the Linux distros I've ever used, and there have been quite a few, have ever done.

fms 2010-01-01 14:11
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 448830)
I think that deliberately hiding part of the file system from users is not only evil but it's downright Microsoftian (and Applelike, too). It is not something that any of the Linux distros I've ever used, and there have been quite a few, have ever done.
Of course it is the Conspiracy! How can anyone think otherwise?

tomchiverton 2010-01-03 17:10
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 448830)
I think that deliberately hiding part of the file system from users is not only evil but it's downright Microsoftian (and Applelike, too). It is not something that any of the Linux distros I've ever used, and there have been quite a few, have ever done.
It's a sensible protection mechanism to protect the system from normal users.

azz 2010-01-03 20:53
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
if they don't hide the files, all the "phone" users will eventually messed up their system by accidntally deleting something...nokia rather deal with the couple of power user than all phone users.

bunanson 2010-01-03 21:43
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 440122)
I optified the emelfm2 package available on qole's site (0.5.0-rev29) and tweaked the config file for a better gui. The package was somewhat too large so couldn't be attached to the post; it's here.

(I uploaded it on my site with maemoftp which quite luckily works under Maemo5 too :) . Should someone like an optified version, lacking only some icons which likely came from the maemo4 system, it's here.)
I have a request: The fonts are a tart too small to be read and purple on black makes it even more challenge. Could you please 1) change the font color, white or any light color on black will be great. 2) may be make the font one dot larger and make the command line half as high. 3) you can cheat on the white heading, to make it 3/4 as high and remove all the horizonatal borders 4) both the top row of icons and bottom row of icons can be make 3/4 as large, as one would get used to the icon and recognise the icons from their relative positions. I would sacrify esthesis for practicality. I know, I know, with limited screen estate, there is not much one can work with. Thanks

In the long run, with the small screen estate of the N900, I would think a portrait mode with one box sitting on top of the second should be better the current one. Again, I understand, one would not want to spend hours to surgery on pipeline's baby :) .

bun

bunanson 2010-01-03 22:28
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Midnight commander for fremantle is here, http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...-pre1-1maemo5/

Any taker?

I stick with my favorite emelfm2 for the time being.

bun

geneven 2010-01-03 23:29
Re: [N900] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 403196)
I don't mind my device having "DCIM" as the folder name for my camera pictures. I just don't like the File Manager "abstracting" everything by changing the folder names. At the very least, I want to be able to switch to "advanced" mode and see everything the "right" way.

I must admit that the file:// trick is very clever, though...
Amen. And will one of you who typically explains that these things are done for the benefit of the user please explain how user-friendly it is to have the same folders named different things?

azz 2010-01-04 02:49
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 451674)
I have a request: The fonts are a tart too small to be read and purple on black makes it even more challenge. Could you please 1) change the font color, white or any light color on black will be great. 2) may be make the font one dot larger and make the command line half as high. 3) you can cheat on the white heading, to make it 3/4 as high and remove all the horizonatal borders 4) both the top row of icons and bottom row of icons can be make 3/4 as large, as one would get used to the icon and recognise the icons from their relative positions. I would sacrify esthesis for practicality. I know, I know, with limited screen estate, there is not much one can work with. Thanks

In the long run, with the small screen estate of the N900, I would think a portrait mode with one box sitting on top of the second should be better the current one. Again, I understand, one would not want to spend hours to surgery on pipeline's baby :) .

bun
I agree with the text being a bit small. maybe take out some of the icons that are less used to create more space to make some of the icons biggers, for finger friendly usuage.

bunanson 2010-01-04 03:55
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 451720)
Midnight commander for fremantle is here, http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...-pre1-1maemo5/

Any taker?

I stick with my favorite emelfm2 for the time being.

bun
Installed and run, optication not sure - 6.7 MB, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...046#post452046, thread #25 with picture

Edit: Listening and humming from radio "After midnight, we gonna let it all hang donw..." - Eric Clapton

bun

debernardis 2010-01-15 09:09
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Unfortunately, after the latest dist-upgrade, maemoftp is broken (doesn't open local filesystem). We need a gui ftp package asap :)

maramusa 2010-01-30 09:03
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 440122)
I optified the emelfm2 package available on qole's site (0.5.0-rev29) and tweaked the config file for a better gui. The package was somewhat too large so couldn't be attached to the post; it's here.

(I uploaded it on my site with maemoftp which quite luckily works under Maemo5 too :) . Should someone like an optified version, lacking only some icons which likely came from the maemo4 system, it's here.)
Emelfm2 is sweet mate.
I used it to delete a gconf file from an application that wasn't starting , even after re-install.
Just one example of when a good file manager helps, and Im not a power user...just wanted the app(Maemo-Mapper) to work.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...189#post502189

Big Phat Jan 2010-01-30 10:14
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
For advanced users only - instructions left purposefully vague!

I posted this in a brainstorm relaring to eMMC usage already, but perhaps some of you will find it useful.

You can bind mount /home into MyDocs and access it through the hildon file manager (and therefore any software that uses it for file selection). Just do something along the lines of:

Code:
cd /home/user
mkdir MyDocs/filesystem
mount --bind /home MyDocs/filesystem
to check it out. If you want it to persist then you need to edit /etc/event.d/rcS-late and add the /bin/mount instruction just before the comment "We can safely continue booting now", as the fstab is overwritten on boot unfortunately. Warning: doing something stupid here will probably stop your device from booting.

If you dislike the abstraction you can partially solve it by editing /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs. Should be obvious how. If you do so you'll probably want to check out /home/user/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg and edit WatchDirectoryRoots so that your media shows up in media player etc.

Cheers,
Jan

delaroca 2010-01-31 08:41
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Jan,

Another way to break out of the Hildon File Manager "wall" consists of defining symbolic links, in ~/MyDocs, to the parts of the File System that you wish to make visible -- I do this for "/" (Root) and "/home/user" (Home). But to do this, ~/MyDocs needs to be on an ext2 (or ext3) partition... and this conversion is only for advanced users.

The symbolic links create in effect circular references in the File System that make Tracker go into a scanning loop... but that can be solved easily by adding the added paths to the exclude list of Tracker. Recursive searches via "find" do work fine, though! But you have to be alert for other apps such as Tracker that may be affected similarly.

Anyway, I wish that Hildon File Manager were developed instead to provide functionality that for naive users would offer a "walled" view of the file system but as an advance preferences option would provide a full view of the file system. This is a very old problem dating back to the days of the 770 Tablet and all previous versions of Maemo!

--denis

christexaport 2010-01-31 20:24
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
This was the main reason Symbian was hacked wide open.

What is so difficult about a file manager that no one has stepped up and created a file manager with access to all files? This is a computing necessity, and the biggest bugaboo after the bland RSS reader options. Users need this, if any developers are reading...

tomchiverton 2010-02-01 18:31
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 504179)
created a file manager with access to all files? This is a computing necessity
Clearly it isn't. You are being over the top.

spain2468 2010-03-12 14:15
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
:)OK everyone i was reading the posts that were on here while i was searching for the same thing and i did some searching, i to have tried these file managers while they are OK i needed something better, and found this its called "Homunculus File Manager" i have found this to be very good well at least good for me.I Found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrd2GUimrs I hope this helps some of you. Also its in Beta stage at the moment i think.:)

Corso85 2010-03-12 14:41
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spain2468 (Post 565083)
:)OK everyone i was reading the posts that were on here while i was searching for the same thing and i did some searching, i to have tried these file managers while they are OK i needed something better, and found this its called "Homunculus File Manager" i have found this to be very good well at least good for me.I Found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrd2GUimrs I hope this helps some of you. Also its in Beta stage at the moment i think.:)
nice find spain! i like this prog. using it now.

Flandry 2010-03-12 14:43
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Longtime favorite Midnight Commander is in the Extras-devel repo, too.

biggzy 2010-03-12 15:05
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spain2468 (Post 565083)
:)OK everyone i was reading the posts that were on here while i was searching for the same thing and i did some searching, i to have tried these file managers while they are OK i needed something better, and found this its called "Homunculus File Manager" i have found this to be very good well at least good for me.I Found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrd2GUimrs I hope this helps some of you. Also its in Beta stage at the moment i think.:)
Nice find, however iv installed it to my n900 but the app refuses to open, any help?

spain2468 2010-03-12 15:42
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....3.1-1_all.deb and put it in your documents on the n900,use the original file manager to open the file in your documents folder click om deb file it should install then go to you desktop and click on the top left corner,then click on more and you will see the new Homunculus file you can create a shortcut to your desktop hope this helps.

biggzy 2010-03-12 15:57
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spain2468 (Post 565181)
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....3.1-1_all.deb and put it in your documents on the n900,use the original file manager to open the file in your documents folder click om deb file it should install then go to you desktop and click on the top left corner,then click on more and you will see the new Homunculus file you can create a shortcut to your desktop hope this helps.
Still the same problem, when i try to open the app i get a black background and at the top where it says Homunculus file manager theres a spinning icon then it boots me back to my desktop.

If i open via xterm i get this error message..

$ sudo gainroot
Root shell enabled


BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/home/user # homunculus
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/homunculus.py", line 3, in <module>
import gtk
ImportError: No module named gtk
/home/user #

spain2468 2010-03-12 16:07
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Try to uninstall go to desktop application manager uninstall find homunculs then click on it once it been uninstalled re-install it again.

biggzy 2010-03-12 16:11
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spain2468 (Post 565201)
Try to uninstall go to desktop application manager uninstall find homunculs then click on it once it been uninstalled re-install it again.
same prob still, i must have a conflicting package or summat :confused:

spain2468 2010-03-12 16:19
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Sorry biggzy may need to check other installed packages which sounds like they could be conflicting with this one, you could always uninstall them one by one till you find the one that's giving you the problem do a backup first.

Rob1n 2010-03-12 16:44
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggzy (Post 565192)
/home/user # homunculus
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/homunculus.py", line 3, in <module>
import gtk
ImportError: No module named gtk
/home/user #
That error indicates a missing library - probably python-gtk2. Try:
Code:
root
apt-get install python-gtk2

biggzy 2010-03-12 17:11
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 565243)
That error indicates a missing library - probably python-gtk2. Try:
Code:
root
apt-get install python-gtk2
Did the above, installed a lot of packages but the new file manager still hangs at opening, iv rebooted, removed and reinstalled, im lost.

Thanx for helping guys.

Scottlfa 2010-03-12 17:31
Re: [Maemo 5] File manager only sees MyDocs. Is there a better file manager?
 
I run easy-debian, so I made a shortcut pcmanfm.desktop to pcmanfm in easy debian. Full file manager with full access.


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