Is there any form of moderation on these forums?
 

Are there any moderators around here?

In the last few days lots of threads made are about topics that have already been discussed multiple times.
I'm talking about threads like "What are your experiences with the N900?" or the countless review threads..

These threads should, in my opinion, be merged and pinned

Also, stickies containing FAQs would be very helpful, especially for new users.

So, are there any moderators? Or are they just waiting for everyone to receive their N900 so everyone calms down a bit?

Re: Is there any form of moderation on these forums?
 

Yes, there are moderators.

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No moderators. We believe anarchy rules.

EDIT: don't believe zerojay. He was dropped as a child. Bounced rather.

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I just think it's kind of getting out of hand here :(

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Were I mod here, the first thing I would do is move this thread to the forum where it belongs. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the n900 and belongs in the 'community' forum. ;)

Yes, there are mods. They're kind of busy, though.

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Actually, i think there are a couple of 'em, but they're actually from the planet xorg, where they use 60 hours days, and can only do moderating 2 hours/day (their day). So only 2 hours every 60

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It's been messy before. Happens every time a new device hits.

We actually do have mods (I'm one for Brainstorm only) and we do what we can. But it will settle down soon if history is an example.

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Off topic

@Texrat

Then can you head over at some point and explain what I ask about here ("invalid" on Brainstorm)

thanks!

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I wouldn't need moderators if this forum software had better features.

My most wanted feature is killing (hiding) of threads. After I have killed a thread I would never see it again in "New posts" or in normal forum view. After killing 90% of active threads this place would much better.

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Then the question should not be about moderators, but about feaure enhancements to the forum. There's a Brainstorm area for that, though I will note, Reggie is a busy dude and unless there are others to give a hand in site maintenace and development, requesting new features should be done in light of one's own ability to implement them - that's only fair to Reggie.

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IMHO there should be 2 more subforums
-complaints (could be called rants as well)
-reviews

This would be great to actually reduce the noise in n900 subforum and future devices.

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more moderation please!
just wanted to start new topic as i'm fed up will all the c..p happening here
but found more than one already so not alone *sigh*
since i came here in oct/nov a lot has changed, not in a good way

used to b a moderator myself and i know these hordes need tough shepards

and it's not about freedom and being open but usefulness

so please more hard(really hard) moderation

Re: Is there any form of moderation on these forums?
 

We're walking a fine line here, trying to manage the forum without being heavy-handed. If you see violations, though, use report this and specifiy the offense, thanks.

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I reported the thread that is promoting the sharing of an unofficial leaked RC for N900 and that there is no moderator doing anything about it and is instead participating in it.

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Well, it's out. Can't exactly bottle it back up, so what good would locking/deleting the thread accomplish?

Best to counter any misinformation and keep people on track then try to brush it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist.

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That would be me. I don't see the thread as a problem at this point-- despite the provocative subject, it's been very tame in there.

You may disagree with that opinion, and that's fine. If Reggie tells me I was wrong I'll of course go by whatever he says.

Yup!

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We are not iFruity.

I would think that we do not wish to send policemen after people who leak.

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Speaking of moderators, I seem to have lost my moderator powers (probably due to my not being around much in the past month or so), may I have them back?

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Ok guys, no fighting please.

Lardman, I'll mention that to Reggie.

Please don't confuse a difference of opinion with lack of moderation. Again: we try not to be heavy-handed. Warnings first. And post deletions are definitely a last resort. Keep in mind that's evidence deleted.

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Just about to close this thread.

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It wasn't that I 'disagreed' with you - it was that I do know what I am talking about.

I find the 'moderation' of that thread still to be incredibly incompetent and I hope that Reggie has a word or two with any moderator that posted in it.

To quote Reggie:

"Please do not distribute or link to any non-official beta, early release, or hacked files here in maemo.org. It is against Nokia's EULA and considered illegal. Members doing so may be legally charged with copyright infringement. We advice that you stop proliferating such files immediately.

Let's put a stop on it her right now. Please stop sharing the illegal file(s) on other threads, your signatures, or private messages.

For the community, please report posts and/or members who are still linking to the illegal files. The posts will be deleted and the reported members may be banned.

Thank you."

And I will be sure to do exactly what Reggie is asking for:

For the community, please report posts and/or members who are still linking to the illegal files. The posts will be deleted and the reported members may be banned.

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wow

yea close this
and have fun in 'problems with leaked pr1.2' flooding active topics

wow

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If there's a consensus that I'm incompetent I will cheerfully relenquish damned-if-you-do-or-don't moderator duties and let someone else deal with the difficulty and ingratitude.

Maybe someone wants to create a poll?

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This is sad.

I support Tex and the way he exercises his duties. I'd take 1000's of Tex's over a single draconian dictator any day.

Some people just need to grow up and enjoy being on a forum.

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Thanks fatalsaint, but I just decided to resign. Who needs the hassle, incompetent or otherwise?

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This is a depressing day.

I understand the decision; but think it may have been rash. Probably should have slept on it like I did PR1.2 ;).

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Where is penguinbait these days?

As for the rest: pshaw!

EDIT: I take too long to respond, clearly. I'm sorry you feel you need to decide as you did, Texrat.

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now u're being childish
i personally appreciate yours and other moderators work
and hoped my posts will show concern and engagement/involvement/interest in the way forum is shaping

and don't pretend u don't c the problem

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Not bailing out of childishness. Just making too many errors in judgment and thinking my energies are best spent elsewhere. But feel free to volunteer your own services, eagle.

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I don't think you realize just how often Tex has to defend himself against extreme over-generalizations like this.

Eventually - everyone quits. It has nothing to do with being childish but with being fed up.

*sigh*

Oh well.... I hope Tex that you still plan to hang out on the forums ;).

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I don't believe in elitary group moderation, i think it is inherently flawed in every case. Instead, i believe in struggle. Things sort out themselves sooner or later. All i'd love to see is a Non-Thanks- / Dislike- / Thumb-down-Button. That would be proper moderation.

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Of course I'll stick around. I'm not resigning the council.

Bummer's insults just made me realize I did err in moderating the PR1.2 thread and it's a big deal. I should have stopped the links, despite what happened previously.

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no i don't

but i share this kind of attitude Texrat, easy-going, make love not war all way down my grown-up life
wasn't my intention to upset u

just being fed up, yes

Re: Is there any form of moderation on these forums?
 

I vehemently disagree. This is why I straight out asked in the thread "Is unreleased firmware illegal"... none of us are lawyers and none of us really knew the answer.

Until it was determined that it was in fact, illegal software (at least in some jurisdictions or countries) - then there was simply no need for moderation.

Once it was determined as such, the thread was locked and the offending posts (hopefully including my own, I went back and looked and don't see it) were deleted. I also ceased seeding the torrent.

You cannot be expected to know every possible legal ramification for every country. Bummer is just enjoying being a bit of a jerk.

Nokia, historically, didn't press charges or bring Reggie or iTT up on any charges or send any C&D letters that I am aware for leaked firmware. Therefore, in all the information available to you at the time - you made the right decision.

Despite what some "mightier-than-thou" people may want you to think.

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Regardless I do think moderaters should follow Reggie's rules and guidelines. Since they unofficially represent him through moderation.

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Seriously? Everyone makes mistakes. If we didn't have a long list of bug reports and impressions from the leaked version here, they would be written somewhere eles. And it's not like moderating this forum will make this different...
Nokia creates a lot of useless tension between the users and dev-team (with their upgrade policy), so it has to be unloaded somewhere. You just got to be "responsible" for the mess, which they can ignore by not providing a community place at all...

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The thing is I had no moderator powers in that section and I should have escalated the issue rather than simply cautioning posters.

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Please reconsider. Don't let single error weigh too much. Losing as good and active moderator as you would be bigger loss to the forum than the minor harm that came from that thread.

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Yes, but that thread was not against any rules I've seen up and until it was determined the software illegal which is against Reggie's policies.

Mayhaps I misread something somewhere; but I really doubt there was any lapse of judgement here.

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Personally, I thought you handled it reasonably well. You made it very clear that downloading the FW would be risky and even foolish.

Your point that there was already precedent and that its better to have a discussion where moderaters can provide suitable warnings was a defensible one. It was also in the early of hours of the morning for you. If it was an error it was an understandable one.

I am a very new member here but I appreciate the light touch and intelligent moderation. I hope that doesnt change even if you are no longer a mod.

Thanks for your efforts.