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If you dont get the N900 then DONT get it SIMPLEZ

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I also do not think it is missing something it is announced to have. Only what it is expected to have. We're in perfect agreement.

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Mine works perfectly! Uptime of 4 days now ;) I *&%^ing love this thing!!!!!!!

I only had the device go non responsive once (screen wouldn't unlock or light up) luckily i was reversed ssh'd to my 900 and it was still responding! Just told it to "reboot".

Did I mention!!?!?!? I LOVE THIS DEVICE!!! TY Maemo community and Nokia!

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Originally Posted by squirreluk (Post 408572)

All the reviews i have seen say this phone is great,so are you saying these have all been written by nokia to trick us into buying the phone? I only bought the thing because of the good reviews.

You're just naive.

1: You can't rely 100% on a personal belief

2: Don't get sucked into the media & technology now a days, they take your money like hot pancakes

3: I never said it wasn't a good phone, I said it's not offering enough experience on either side, mobile/computer. It should have came out later, with better features & childhood syndromes being fixed.

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Originally Posted by iJanne (Post 408580)

Look, clearly there are two separate issues here.

One is what the N900 was supposed to be and what it is. Sure, it has some bugs that still need ironing out, but feature-wise it is what was announced and communicated to us. Many people seem to be disputing this or ignoring this, but I consider it indisputable fact.

Second, obviously, is how the N900 is perceived to be - and how any marketing from Nokia, media attention or public's expectations play towards forming this perception. I agree Nokia should communicate this better. And I do think a lot people buying or considering one have done lowsy research into their product choice and are *****ing partly in result of their own laziness.

I don't agree N900 is missing something it was announced to have. N900 is pretty much how it was announced and doing what it is supposed to do. But if someone is ignorant of the press releases and announcements, and just reads Nokia.com shop listings their expectations might lead them to believe the N900 to be more than it is. Not that the Nokia.com is untrue (when I read it with my expectations it doesn't seem to claim anything untowardly), it is just people expect the N900 to have things nobody is actually claiming it to have.

I always believe that part of the fun of buying a phone like this is the fact that new items, features, apps, etc are going to be added all the time. The phone will constantly be improving and most high end phones are like this now, even the iphone when first out was like this.

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Originally Posted by God (Post 408597)

You're just naive.

1: You can't rely 100% on a personal belief

2: Don't get sucked into the media & technology now a days, they take your money like hot pancakes

3: I never said it wasn't a good phone, I said it's not offering enough experience on either side mobile/computer. It should have came out later, with better features & childhood syndromes being fixed.

Or maybe its to complicated for you to work out :eek:

Think about it............:D

;)

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Why worry about cost 12 months down the line some muppet will still buy it off ya for £350.

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Originally Posted by iJanne (Post 408550)

Look, I'm an Apple fan, first and foremost.

Yet even I knew what the N900 was and was not, with a few minutes of research beforehand.

It bugs me people do absolute no research and then are annoyed when the thing isn't what they expected.

It is perfectly clear what the N900 is and is not when one understands the Nokia Internet Tablet/mobile computer line of products and the Maemo 4 of 5 step.

I do agree some of the PR stuff Nokia has done is confusing, but that doesn't change the N900s design goals which clearly did not define a consumer-grade smartphone, but instead a mobile computer with phone functionality.

That is why it is step 4 of 5. Next step is the consumer smartphone. Nokia told us all this, months beforehand.

Deny this all you want, won't make it untrue, though.

If anything, this is definitely NOT marketing ********. If anything, it is the marketing ******** and media attention that has muddied this issue. The roadmap and device specs announced and communicated outside of marketing ******** clearly support my position.

Do you really think anyone outside outside of this forum knows or even cares that this is "step 4 of 5"? When you go to Nokia's website, do they have a section for mobile computers? Is the n900 under that section.. No... It's found with the other PHONES.

Regardless of all of that the n900 should NOT be getting a pass on legitimate bugs because you and whoever else thinks it's a "mobile computer". That is the point I'm trying to get you to understand. What does the op's problems and concerns with the phone have to do with this device being a "mobile computer"? Should he expect and accept that the blue functionality is not going to act the same as others devices with cellular capabilities?

The gripe I have with this forum is that EVERY single time someone makes a post with legitimate issues someone either says "it's a mobile computer so why would you expect that smart phone feature to work like other smart phones" or "go buy an iphone". It's disgusting.

This forum really should only be for developers and hardcore enthusiasts because anyone outside that category is treated like garbage..

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Originally Posted by squirreluk (Post 408614)

Why worry about cost 12 months down the line some muppet will still buy it off ya for £350.

On the ball m8ty there is enough of them out there and on here.:D

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Originally Posted by sevla (Post 408538)

I wish people would stop repeating this marketing ********. It's a damn phone, end of story. All this "mobile computer" crap is non-sense and a poor attempt at creating a new marketing gimmick.

It's shaped like mobile phone it looks like a mobile phone it rings when people cAll me and I can call people on it. Stop using this " it's not a phone it's a mobile computer" as an excuse to have BASIC PHONE features not work properly or non existent all together.

Nokia really has some of you brainwashed and it's scary.

No, veterans of Maemo.org see that N900 for what it is. They have been involved with the softare and hardware they even stop of it's evolution from N770 to present day. Others' like myself have been involved even long . I've helped (mostly as a guinea pig) with the development of the a lot of the technology as it was development.

The N900 is the next milestone in the development of the Maemo OS and Internet Tablet hardware. Yes they added basic phone functionality and began it's integration into the Maemo eco-system. Yes as a smart-phone is an immature platform. But Maemo doesn't have years of Symbian code and expertise to draw upon. As such, much of the Phone and other support system have to written from scatch or non-phone software roots. Nokia could not add everything in terms of smartphone feature and get the N900 out the door in reasonable timeframe. Compromises had to be made, and feature dropped for the initial deployment. But all of the stuff that is mission is merely software. Given enough time it will be developed and deployed.

I know what the N900 is. For me it's the converged device that I've been wanting for the over 2 years. I've begun leaving my N810 and old 3G phone at home both turned off. I don't have 3G service in my area for the N900, but I don't care. The N900 is just that good to me. The N900 is not perfect. There are a lot of annoying behaviours I don't like, but they aren't enough to make me want to return the N900.

People are being honest of what the N900 is. It's foremostly the latest version of the Nokia Internet Tablet and secondly it's a mobile communications device of which voice is just one protocol among many.