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Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

There's no reason for getting upset wazd. I appreciate any help I get and your UI/UX design was used as a basis for our concepting stuff in Barcelona. A good UI has input from various sources and every source of input is valuable.

I want to make the best FM radio app for the N900 and I'm thanking you all for your committment. Keep up the good work!

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 425547)

We were looking at those concepts as well wazd, we took them into consideration while completing our concept. We already have the ruler UI. "Favourites" make no sense at all, considering the auto-scan feature saves all available stations, not only your favourite ones, but the "Stations" UI is very similar. The last visual concept is impossible to make. Martin is also not willing to provide a web service for locations list downloading, even forgetting the fact that that the whole idea wasn't a good one in the first place (always out-dated lists, some areas will never get a good list, the need for Internet access possibly abroad, etc.). We have thoroughly considered many options, we have a plan that Martin is following. If you have any further suggestions, please don't hesitate to add them.

I wasn't even aware of any animosities here, I'm not sure why do you put the word "experts" in quotes. We had a very good session in Barcelona with UX experts from Nokia and we used that time to fullest extent possible. I'm not sure if I see anything wrong with that. I don't really care about other applications at the moment, so I'm not even sure where you're coming from with the "other apps need help" argument.

I think you have a strange entitlement issue. It's Martin's project, not yours and definitely not mine. If Martin decides to ditch everything and re-do the app from scratch this hour, I won't blame him. If he decided to do the UI completely differently than any concepts, it's still OK. OK?

It's Martin's project for sure but it's my time that I've spent on it and it's my right to know about ditching everything BEFORE I make something, not after. There are so many people to help, I think 2 (or more) designers for one project is a luxury for maemo community in it's current state.

As for "Martin don't want to..." - I'm not a freaking Jedi or Mindreader, I can't know things happening in someones head utill I'm told verbaly or in text bout them.

I'm releasing all the stuff I've produced for FM and skipping the project, you're free to continue to do whatever you want to.

P.S.: Favourites are, you know, favourites, for example I'm listening to 5 stations only, I want to just quickly tune em, without going thru all the list.

P.P.S.: As for the issues, if something like that happens in commercial world - nobody will work with you after. And that's the most peaceful scenario.

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

I have no idea what your beef is, this is not the "commercial world".

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by kwotski (Post 425595)

Ok, thanks.

Although, my actual use case is: kwotski knows the approximate frequency of the two stations he's interested in listening to, swipes to the vicinity, and spends irksome minutes re-re-re-re- and re-swiping to try and land on the optimal reception frequency..

But I'll be happy to work round your improvements :D If the radio works (and it does, gloriously!) that's enough in the end. After all, once the right frequency is saved the game is largely won.

One thing that definitely needs fine tuning is swiping sensitivity, so that might help you out. Keep the use cases coming, we need to know how is this software going to be used.

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 425609)

I have no idea what your beef is, this is not the "commercial world".

And that's the problem, that everybody thinks that time means nothing, only money have worth. If money are not involved - what bad can happen anyway?

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 425591)

When will this newer package be available in the repos?

When it's ready :) First it's going to enter extras-testing anyway, so even if a version is released today, it's still going to go through community testing before it hits Extras.

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by wazd (Post 425621)

And that's the problem, that everybody thinks that time means nothing, only money have worth. If money are not involved - what bad can happen anyway?

Look wazd, I was just trying to help Martin out, because I really care about the application. I wasn't aware how deeply you were involved in the project, I thought you were just like me - throwing ideas around and see if they catch on. Some of them did, some of them didn't.

If you're throwing a fit as if someone was stealing toys from your playground, then I'm sorry, but you're acting like a big baby, there is nothing personal about this, it's just how I see it. If there was any formal agreement between you and Martin then work it out between yourselves in private and I'll retract my words. Sheesh.

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

Thanks very much mate you guys are doing a great job and we really appreciate. cant wait to get my device so i can try things me self

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

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Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 425630)

If I'll need mother's advice - I'll call her, ok?
I'm not throwing around ideas, I'm "working" on User Interfaces, from bottom to top. It's not about stealing my toys (who cares), it's about stealing my time.

Re: FM Radio application for the N900 - Concepting in Barcelona

There was no formal agreement and wazd's blog post was the only thing I knew from his UI/UX concepts before Barcelona. It was a great blog post and it's stuff like this that helps us developers a lot.

But if you decide to leave the project, because you're not the only UI/UX designer, wazd, then we're all disappointed but will not stop you. In the community everybody is free to do what she/he wants.