All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

Seriously, this is making me paranoid! Hardware keyboard this, slider that, microphone this, dead pixle that..
I've already orderd and paid for my N900! I don't want to hear this!
But the thing that bothers me most is people who don't have any issues with their device panic as well ("Now that you mention it my heptic feedback is a bit weak, is that normal? Oh god is my device broken? Oh god, it's broken! It's bricked isn't it? TELL ME THE TRUTH, DAMNIT!"), and they're making me panic even more!@

So I need an answer- is this normal, all of these damaged units? what are the odds that my N900 is going to arrive damaged in any way?

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my n900 is running fine . except i dont know how to use the front web cam.. ;p

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To be honest it depends on luck. Some on this website will claim that it is only for noobs the device gives problems. But to me a device where you have to be a linux expert and not put tons of media on it to make it function perfectly is a far from perfect device. It is a great device when everything works perfectly but unfortunately far too often for far too many people it does not work perfectly. Hopefully a firmware update will perfect everything.

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i have a crap load of media on mine and it runs perfect

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i hope these problems only apply on the units from the first "wave" of production.

considering i propably get mine around mid-january, i'm positive i'll get a revised device without issues.

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Just for the record... There is nothing wrong with putting loads of media on the device, it just may take a temporary performance hit if you add it all at once. If it would have been permanent then you would have discovered a bug, but apparently that wasn't the case so everything is good.

As for hardware failures, I do think that you have to be very unlucky to get a damaged device. The reboot issue seems to be the most critical one. Dead pixels can always happen, but are quite rare.

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Working great for me. And you have at least a year of warranty. I dont see the issue.

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I don't know how things are with other devices. I have never bought a device where I have come on to a website to constantly discuss it. But you just have to visit the site for a day to see that the device has all sorts of issues. Wifi not connecting, no reception on vodafone, phone randomnly rebooting, etc. May be the same for all other devices if you visit their forums but this one has loads of problems. It may be that every single person with an N900 that has a problem is on Maemo discussing it but as I do not have shares in Nokia I have to warn you that there is a risk. There is a risk with any device but with this one this site gives the impression there is a bigger risk than usual.

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dont worry dude! i got n900, first one had reboot problem but i just replaced it today from the nokia store and this one is working perfectly so far no reboots, mic working, no dead pixels. or anything. great! n im new to linux never never used linux. total noob here. iphone was my first touchscreen phone used it for a month then sold i felt really limited using it. but now hell yeah even right now im using my n900 and doing voice chat at the same time lol. im totally amazed what this device can do. anyway just keep your fingers crossed and wish you get a stable unit. other than im totally happy. =D i had no high expectations so im definitely satisfied with it.

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

Yep def. Sux

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You just cancel your order and come back after a year or so

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I have no idea what you are talking about. There are only a minute few posts dealing with issues. EVERYTHING else is about people who are enthusiastic about their devices and this platform. Everywhere I look are posts about learning about how to develop for this platform, what features people would like added and people willing to take up the challenge of implementing those features.

If you post a bug in bugzilla you get ACTUAL nokia developers responding to you.

I think you need to reevaluate your stand.

What specific issues are you having with your device?

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

I am not talking about me specifically. I have not had any hardware problems though I have had loads of software problems which hopefully a firmware update will fix. Looking through the N900 threads we get the following:

- Music player not recognizing new songs
- Speaker issue?
- [Poll] Reboots with N900?
- How many people have the constant reboot issue?

That is from the first page alone. Going further down we have:

- n900 reboot problem, why hasn't nokia spoken?
- N900 Unexpected reboots
- Help: N900 Won't Charge
- Broken Speakers? (help)
- no signal on vodafone
- N900 accelerometer issues
- Another hardware issue? Backlit keyboard

There are of course tons more of such threads which I cannot bother to continue copy and pasting. I think I have pasted enough to prove my point. Like I said I don't know how it is on a similar forum for iphone, HTC, etc. What I do know is that I see enough of these threads on a daily basis to be able to say to a potential buyer that your device should work well but there is a real risk it would not and this website gives me the impression that the risk is higher than normal on a new device.

On my own side the issues I am having yesterday and today alone ( have had other software issues in the past):

- when I switch on the device music player takes ages (over 30 minutes to recognise that I have any songs or videos. This despite playing about 3 videos by going into file manager.

- installed qik, it worked for two videos. Then when I was trying to show it off to my wife it failed to work. Had to uninstall it.

- tried sound recorder for the first time today and each time it just freezes up.

- file manager was freezing each time I tried to play an audio file (had to go through file manager since according to the device I did not have any audio files despite having over 4000).

- Does not play mp4 files that I was playing with no problems on ipod touch despite Nokia boasting amazing codec support.

- Half of the time the device is unable to play my video files. And this is not the problem in my point above. I am talking about files it has played before. Even a few minutes earlier. I play it minutes later and I get message unsupported file format. And once I get that message no video what so ever is going to play until I reset the device.

- Videos when they do work take ages and ages and ages and ages to start up. On ipod touch it was always instantaneous.

- Videos stutter for first few seconds. On ipod touch they played perfectly smoothly throughout.

- msn chat a quarter of the time gives network server error (plug in is still in testing so I think this should be fine when it is final).

Most of the issues I have mentioned are to do with the media player. If I were to rate its stability I would give it a 7%. It is that bad. However, I am hoping a firmware update will fix these issues or there would be significantly more stable music and video players available soon. I have over 20gb of media files but I had the same on ipod touch and didn't ever have any issues. I know that is a dedicated media device but I am pretty sure the iphone is the same. And please the answer to my post is not go and get an iphone then. I bought the N900 because I wanted an N900. I am just listing some of the issues with it.

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im with etuoyo in the fact that the number of problems people have had has put me off a bit. like etuoyo though i really want the phone. This is the first time i have researched and followed a phone to the extent i have with the N900. sometimes i wish i didnt bother and just went and got the dam thing. although then i would be one of theose people that really didnt know what they were buying.

i cant wait to get my hands on one after the firmware update. im going to drool for a while as it charges and then try my best not to brick the phone while getting the most out of it

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It's good to remember that the N900 is selling in great numbers and the ones who have problems will be the loudest ones and this forums surely isn't small.
I have aboslutely zero problems (device is bought 4th of December), but if you really are in panic get something else :D Or if the N900 is something you really want, wait.

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there are less than 70 votes to random reboots @ bugzilla. so if for example 100 000 devices are shipped, you must really be unlucky (but still somebody has to get the defective ones, those doesn't disappear anywhere)

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MInes working well, thought i had a dead pixel on the bottom of my screen but I guess its just a stuck pixel cause its gone now. My concern is battery life, its not that great even with all the tweaks. I do think however when the firmware update comes along it will really improve our n900 experience.

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No problems here. Normally Nokia has high quality, maybe there is more defects in first batch from factory than usually. Anyway warranty will get you a new one so stop worrying

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Battery life is definitely something that should be improved. Modern high end smartphones really are in trouble with this. HTC HD2 got 1230mAh vs N900 1320mAh and will always last thru the day so there surely is room for improvements with N900. Goal should be that N900 lasts 24h with pretty much any use.

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Tissot- I agree, my expectations for this phone battery is that it should atleast last a day and a half or two if use sparingly. Why make a fast sports car with all the bells and whistles yet your unable to make full use of it right. Im just really hoping that its a bug causing this and that nokia gets this straighten out with the expect firmware updating due before years end.

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since you yourself admit that you don't have a previous frame of reference, let me tell you a little secret:
those who have problems are _always_ the loudest. if your device reboots, you will most likely look for help, come here and post or start a thread. if your device has no issues, you'll probably never know of talk.maemo.org.

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iPod supports DRM content and the N900 does not - are you sure that this a Codec issue rather than DRM?

If you have MSN plug-in installed then you could have some chatter going on in the background, this might affect other things on the system too.

The iPhone is basically an iPod with the phone capabilities added on. It also only runs the core system plus the application you are running at the time. The N900 runs everything you have loaded.

I would however have a look at the Codec that is being used for problematic files and see if there is a certain format of file that plays with stutters and others that don't play at all. File a bugzilla entry and then we have a target for codec to make available or sort out performance issues. Unfortunately there are a huge array of possibilities on this so help on narrowing things down helps lots !

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

had my device since the first weekend of release and havwn't had any problems at all.. But i am a very very very basic user. i wanted the N900 because of it's internet capabilities. haven't got a clue what heptic feedback is or how i would even operate the microphone. one problem i have had though. when i got my device i had someone else on my answer phone message, and i keep recieving random texts from people asking for hayley, but then that's a vodafone issue, not the N900's

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

no problems here, just need a codec pack so the video player is less useless.

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I have two year warranty in finland .. not bad.. two year

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i agree totally about that most ppls that have Problems will post in here actually.

I would like to know more internal Information from The Maemo Developers Team about the agreements with Nokia. How they share the objectives between Nokia and the Community here.

For Example is Bugfixing a Part of Nokia or will the SW Bugfixes come from the Community over Nokia Updateservice to us?

Else the Bugtracker dont make sense in my opinion.

crown77

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

Very helpful info. How do I check the codec and other details for video files on the device?

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Oh god, don't ever be a doctor-
"Well Mr. Wilson, you have nothing to worry about, the new heart we gave you is failing, but we'll just send it back. The new one should be just fine! Probably."
Reassure much?
:p

Anyways, I don't live in the US and the device is not supported where I live so it would be troualesome..

I'm getting it anyway, Im just trying to figure out my chances of not getting a damaged device.

By the way, I wish people would stop thanking people saying the device is fine (without any facts to back it up) and that I should just cancel my order.. That's the most useless advice I could get on this topic.

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

the easiest way is mediainfo

it'll tell you exactly what media file(s) you're dealing with.

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most problems I recognized in "talk" are software related and known to be fixed asap.

every iphone/macbook forum explodes after the first release of a device, with lots of issues, I am bored of it here because its so few and nothing serious apart of the mic and eMMC problems.

with motorola for example and the new droid I am already scared of the fact that motorola doesnt care that much of firmware fixes...

the HTC stuff
I read some weird things about windows-mobile and the other second my mother tells me that an IE8 update (feature) is now known as a bug (again) and affects with very effects on her shop's website (close to unusable). I left windows years ago because of all this buggy stuff, and will never return again!

here I know I have a huge community working on fixes, at least...
this community burns a hole in the shiny surface of *locked* iphones and is yet to be known as place to actually find help. did iphone forums do that? (locked is the normal state and to keep legal notes in mind...)

sorry for comparing all with the iphone here but I keep the sentence in my mind "but on the iphone I can... stop it! you cant and never will" I had all three versions of iphone in my hands and guess what, it looks good but thats about it!


and why the hell is this thread hijacked? get your own thread!

click "new thread" instead of "reply" please!

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Not to mention that the individuals are repeating their issues in multiple threads so it appears that more people are actually having issues. If you consolodate those people you're looking at a small amount of individuals/devices. A lot of people are new to linux here and excited about the phone. That can spell disaster for some people trying to "tweak" their phone.

Most of these things seem that they would be fixed with software upgrades, but you're right, a phone/computer should work out of the box.

For instance, you have 16 people that have reviewed it on Amazon and it's at a 4/5 star rating. I will let you know how mine goes. I should get it soon. It's hear waiting for me, i am just out of town right now. err!!

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Right, let's take these one-by-one.

Haaahahaha. How many songs do you have on device? How many videos?

This is because Qik application tries to resume sending your video when your upstream is too slow to send live. You can quickly build a list of videos which qik tries to send, before streaming what you are looking at now. This is not not an eror with the N900. This is just poor communication by Qik application to the user.

This app is in EXTRAS-TESTING. It is not a N900 app shipped with device. Did you file a bugreport?

Oh 4000 titles. Should have mentioned that above, in your bug report.

Apple's mp4 files are a cause of many problems. Use teh Google, luke.

This is related to some known bugs in media player. Particularly it breaks with large media libraries, because it cant keep up with the user.

They start up in 5-15 seconds here. 100 clips on device.

I have seen this happen a couple of times. Depends on the video. On the ipod touch you can NOT PLAY THE VIDEOS YOU CAN PLAY ON N900. IF YOU ONLY ACCEPT DEVICE-OPTIMIZED VIDEOS, LIKE APPLE DOES, SURE THEY WORK FINE.

fsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

You managed to touch on ONE real bug here (media player indexing). The rest of your childish tantrum can go to /dev/null

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

Hmm I just noticed a grey / black pixel in the bottom right of my screen. Have tried massaging it but still here. Its usually covered by the bottom frame when browsing but if full screen in the browser with a white page open (eg google) I can definitely see it. Annoying but I'm hoping (unrealistically?) that it will go away or I'll stop caring!

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Hi,

I've gotten my n900... but have elected to not open until christmas day for novelty and childish glee reasons :rolleyes:

Is the instance of hardware faults that high ( mic not working, etc. ) ?

High enough that maybe I need to open now and briefly test the device in order to not end up waiting into the new year for a replacement unit ??

whats the general consensus from the "signal" people ?
( as opposed to the noise )

Thanks.

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The reality is you have about a 4-6% chance of having a problem with your Nokia.

What is going to happen of course is all you guys are going to open up your Nokia's, fall in love with them, and then never visit these forums again so thus the cycle of impression that they're just loaded with problems is going to continue. Reality though is they are fine and people with problems visit tech forums.

Re: All of these hardware issues are making me panic!!!!!1
 

got mine from amazon.com and have no problems with it.

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4-6% eh... thats not an insignificant chance.

I'm fine with anything software related... just dont want to end up with a dead mic/screen on opening.

I do see your point about the volume of users here with problems will outweigh those here for the device in itself.
Hence i'm just trying to get a feeling if there is much real chance of me ending up with a dud.

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I have had the device for 3 days now, completely blown away by it. The only issue I've had has been charging the battery when I ran it completely dead, and that resolved itself. I myself was starting to get a little apprehension from reading some of the posts on these forums, then I started to notice that many of the posts were by the same users across many threads. Also lets mention the trolls who have bashed this wonderful device every opportunity they have in every possible thread, they bring up shaky strawman points, and claim validity in the sake of objectivism. Honestly they're acne ridden virgins with an outcast, I know it all social deficit, caused by being the smartest person in the 11th grade in whatever B.F.E school they go to. It's like being the shiniest piece of crap in the pile of sh@t. I would mention them by name, but I try not to feed virgin troll gumps. Why they are not banned is beyond me. The device is a joy to have, and is really a game changer on the mobile computing front.

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i guess nobody wants to give me the informations about how they handle the bugs at all..

best regards crown77

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You are a real idiot. What is the reason for that childish language? Was there anything I said that should be overlooked in a device I paid $625 for? I was mentioning the problems I have with the device.

- It may not be a problem to you because you are a millionaire and $625 is nothing.

- It may not be a problem to you because media is not important to you but it is to me as I bought it to replace 32gb ipod touch and 30bg zen as well as other functions and most of all cause Microsoft decided those of us in Europe did not deserve a Zune.

- It may not be important to you cause you are a Nokia fanatic and dare not criticise any of their products.

I don't know. But for you to suggest things that are important to me I am complaining about in a $625 device means I am doing childish whining makes you a real idiot. I have never insulted anyone on the internet but you definitely deserve it.