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TECHDUCK! 2009-12-11 09:47

Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Do we just go back to our N97s or would there –eventual- be firmware updates that would improve/complete/fix the N900?

I ask as after the last firmware update on the N97 (Update v20), it became nearly flawless and moving “UP” to the N900 you would think it is a step ahead not the other way around.

Basically; would the N900 ever become a better N97?

I would appreciate your inputs.

TD!

Botev1912 2009-12-11 09:49

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
i was just thinking about returning n900 and buying an N97 (not mini) but N900 has a lot of potential and better hardware

TECHDUCK! 2009-12-11 10:10

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Agreed and this makes it an even trickier decision to make!

marckuypers 2009-12-11 10:13

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
I have the N97 and believe me guys. There is NO comparing the N900 with the N97. N900 is way better

maxximuscool 2009-12-11 10:15

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
To me N97 just crap. N97 mini has better quality build and better hardware stability. My friend got N97 for 3 weeks and it stopped sending any messaging to people and he is using the latest V20. He found that the N97 is very slow, slower than N95 to do some task. But now he sold his N97 and got N97-mini and he is loving it. Oh the N97 got some sort of stuffed up camera lens cover designed. It scratch the lens and you can't take picture with flash on.

I would not go for the N97.. Was almost fallen into the trap but now my N900 is coming to me :D hopefully it shipped tomorrow.

I would go for N900 any day. It is cheaper and faster :D

volt 2009-12-11 10:16

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
In hardware, the N900 is better than the N97, yeah?
The OSes are too different to compare directly. Kinda like comparing Windows Mobile with Windows Vista. Windows Mobile is clearly better for your HTC mobile. But you can do so much more with Vista.

I believe the N900 is not a good choice for those who would consider a N97 instead. The things the N97 can't do is what you have to care about if the N900 is for you. If the N97 fills your needs, then it's probably a better match for you. It's better at phone-centric things.

mthmob 2009-12-11 10:18

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
To be honest, those devices can't really compare.. sure n900 is missing a some "phone" features compared to n97.. however the n900 at this point has a huge amount of "computer" features the n97 will never have.

And yes.. the n900 will most like end up beating most phones in all kinds of features... its a question about when.. in my eyes its allready one of the most surperior devices on the market atm.

But as it has been pointed out many times.... if your looking for a good device thats a phone first and computer second.. n900 might not be right for you.

hope this helps you a little.

ossipena 2009-12-11 10:18

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
impossible. n97 and n900 are like night and the day....

maxximuscool 2009-12-11 10:21

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 422433)
In hardware, the N900 is better than the N97, yeah?
The OSes are too different to compare directly. Kinda like comparing Windows Mobile with Windows Vista. Windows Mobile is clearly better for your HTC mobile. But you can do so much more with Vista.

I believe the N900 is not a good choice for those who would consider a N97 instead. The things the N97 can't do is what you have to care about if the N900 is for you. If the N97 fills your needs, then it's probably a better match for you. It's better at phone-centric things.

Vista is a pig, its just crap out on ya. I would comparing Windows Vista to Windows 7 lol.

I think N97 is like windows ME and N900 is Windows 7. See my point? ME so buggy and crap, crashes with blue screen regularly and nothing new.

On the other hand Windows 7 has better graphic, stability, management, and No blue screen.

:D well, Linux is also good as well. Work on all systems lol.

So you get the point, N900 is better

volt 2009-12-11 10:21

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Like maxximuscool, I would not recommend the N97 anyway. Coworker had it, he returned it. He's now on HTC Hero and he's loving it. According to him, the N97 was the worst phone ever and he will never buy another Nokia. I believe about half his phones has been Nokias and he's probably had around 10-12 cell phones.

maxximuscool 2009-12-11 10:28

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
ahhaha I know I almost gave up on Nokia and go for Iphone instead because it has better OS stability. But then they announced the N97, I kinda leaning toward it a little but after I did my researched, I found 70% of N97 owners that I've read about are not satisfy with the N97 due to some major hardware failure and bugs. So I hold my money and waited for N97-mini but then N900 was announced lol. For that moment after reading the spec and OS, I became obsessed and In loved with N900.

Never going to look back on N97mini agan :D

It will replace my Laptop and desktop while i'm on a trip or at work

TECHDUCK! 2009-12-11 10:28

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Thanks to all,

Not sure but the N97 seemed like a more complete and mature device the result of years of development and experience.

The question is would the -Linux based- N900 be improved/treated similarly by Nokia?

volt 2009-12-11 10:28

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 422445)
Vista is a pig, its just crap out on ya. I would comparing Windows Vista to Windows 7 lol.

I think N97 is like windows ME and N900 is Windows 7.

No, that doesn't match what I tried to say. I used Windows Mobile and Windows Vista because they accurately describe what I feel is the strength and functionality ratio.

Windows 7 succeeds ME, Maemo doesn't succeed Symbian.
Windows Mobile is better than Vista at phone centric tasks.
Symbian is better than Maemo at phone centric tasks.

At this exact place in time.

At most other tasks, Maemo kicks Symbian ***. Like Vista does with Windows Mobile.

Comparing ME and 7 is not relevant, they do much the same, one is just buggier than the other. I don't think Symbian and Maemo are much alike.

maxximuscool 2009-12-11 10:30

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TECHDUCK! (Post 422457)
Thanks to all,

Not sure but the N97 seemed like a more complete and mature device the result of years of development and experience.

The question is would the -Linux based- N900 be improved/treated similarly by Nokia?

only time will tell. But if you like the N97 then dont go for it. Go for MINI version instead. It smoother and work better than N97. If you are going for the N97 then I can guaranteed you that you will bleed lol. you have 70% chance of bleeding and end up smashing it with a hammer. If you're a heavy user then N97 is not for you


N900 is already better than N97 by far. The only thing it lacked is MMS, and portrait mode, FM. The rest are the trump. Those extra function will be added in the next few big firmware upgrade

marckuypers 2009-12-11 10:30

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Well: I kindda like the N97 it aint that bad with V2.0. I gotta agree though that for a phone with this price it should have been way better. But definatly no comparing to the N900 which I received yesterday and loving it.
And I will always stay with Nokia, no matter what. I once had an X1 experia, but sucked in compartison to N97

Venomrush 2009-12-11 10:30

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
I had N97, was a total failure.
N900 beats it by miles.

You can't really do a direct compare as they both running different platforms.
This is similar to comparing Windows vs Linux

Each have advantages + disadvantages.

MrWh1t3 2009-12-11 10:44

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TECHDUCK! (Post 422457)
Thanks to all,

Not sure but the N97 seemed like a more complete and mature device the result of years of development and experience.

The question is would the -Linux based- N900 be improved/treated similarly by Nokia?

Simply put....If you want a better "phone", get the N97 mini. If you want..first, a computer(ish) device and THEN a phone, get the N900. End of story. Answer that for yourself. Which ever one you decide is best for you, get it and don't look back. You can always come back next year and get the N950, N1000 or whatever it might be. Heck, looking at Nokia's stock price they might scrap this after a year. If you don't have the extra cash to "play" with a device, be safe and go with the N97mini. I have both.

volt 2009-12-11 11:03

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 422459)
N900 is already better than N97 by far. The only thing it lacked is MMS, and portrait mode, FM.

That's not really accurate. The problem is that basic phone features like sorting the call list exists on all and every phone on the market, but is not yet implemented on Maemo, if I understand correctly. And PIM, calendar and all that is 1st generation software, as the N810 didn't have it. Some bugs are being hammered out, but it's doubtful there will be lots of features added at this point. So these are areas where Maemo 6 will probably be way, way better than Maemo 5.

cpscotti 2009-12-11 11:21

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 422445)
...
I think N97 is like windows ME and N900 is Windows 7.
...

Man! Don't say that! Have you ever stopped to think on how wrong what you said is!? I got that it's just analogy but please.. there are limits...
Don't compare the coolest "open/free/do what you want/please hack me" device to M$'s new publicity stunt... no matter how better it is than Vista..

I know I am forcing misquoting here.. but it deserves!

Dude, that's wrong.. and it hurts people!

epertinez 2009-12-11 15:13

Re: Would the N900 ever become a better N97?
 
It is not like night and day. It is like sunrise and sunset. N900 is sunrise and N97 is sunset. We can arge if in a certain point there is more light in one picture or the other. But Maemo is rissing whyle S60 is fading away.
Nobody knows how long it will take. Maybe N900 is already winning. Maybe S80 (if it ever exists) will give S60 a couple of new years. I don't know. But the trend is there.


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