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Rob1n 2010-11-17 21:34

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Version 0.12.10-17 now uploaded for both Fremantle and Diablo.

This adds a check for stylus movement being triggered outside the window. This should prevent the text selection from going crazy when selecting the system menu or task switcher.

The button shown the indicator bar can now be selected from a list - currently there's Full Screen, Popup Menu, or None.

Finally, I've exposed the option for configuring the motion sensitivity - this is switchable between stylus & finger operation. This should make it easier for those without fingernails.

The source code changes are available from here.

geneven 2010-11-17 22:01

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Yes, this change seems to solve my text selection / scrolling problem. I didn't have to change any settings. Thanks!

extendedping 2010-11-17 22:20

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
thanks getting close to perfect. a few things I noticed..

1) nice little drag box near colors in preferences...good catch I have many times noticed hitting colors while scrolling preferences changed the colors...

2) variable drag scrolling which I have set at 150 no longer seems to work. I set things to finger as opposed to stylus mode but I don't think it has to do with a change in sensitivity..I can still swipe a big swipe to turn pages quickly.

3) the menu button is overlapping the page numbers...

4) finally (as you said it might) the quit from the menu is very easy to trigger...any way to either make it only trigger on double tap or long press?

Anyway thanks, you know you should make a device with your settings and sell it as an ereader. This is now far easier to use to navigate technical epubs then either my sony or kindle readers...call it the "tech reader". I gurantee you at least one customer....

geneven 2010-11-17 22:23

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Long-range features I would like to see:

1 The ability to grab books from Gutenberg Project without leaving FBReader. Something like this used to be available, but the official FBReader guy seems to have given it up.

2. Clicking on a word and getting an instant definition. And/or an automatic Wikipedia link.

Rob1n 2010-11-18 09:12

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 876249)
The Library view has trouble distinguishing between scroll-by-finger-drag and selection. The old FBReader (0.10.*) did not have this problem, as far as I remember.

I'll take a look at this - I should be able to install the 0.10 version from extras. In the 0.12 version, selection is triggered on press, whereas scroll is on release, so selection will take precedence. I'll take a look at how this was handled on 0.10 though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 876494)
1) nice little drag box near colors in preferences...good catch I have many times noticed hitting colors while scrolling preferences changed the colors...

I've not made any changes there - if you mean the box on the right, that's displaying the current colour. It does make a handy place to drag from though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 876494)
2) variable drag scrolling which I have set at 150 no longer seems to work. I set things to finger as opposed to stylus mode but I don't think it has to do with a change in sensitivity..I can still swipe a big swipe to turn pages quickly.

That shouldn't have changed - I'll check on this one though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 876494)
3) the menu button is overlapping the page numbers...

It does a bit, yes - I'll add some padding there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 876494)
4) finally (as you said it might) the quit from the menu is very easy to trigger...any way to either make it only trigger on double tap or long press?

Unfortunately not - it's a standard GTK menu, so there's no way to alter that. I could pop up a confirmation dialogue, but that'd make it as much work as exiting fullscreen and then quitting. I'll look at re-ordering the buttons though, which might help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 876497)
1 The ability to grab books from Gutenberg Project without leaving FBReader. Something like this used to be available, but the official FBReader guy seems to have given it up.

There's lots of code for a "Network Library" but it looks like this isn't currently enabled for Maemo - I'll have a look into this. Project Gutenberg doesn't appear to be in the current list though - I guess they don't have an appropriate API.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 876497)
2. Clicking on a word and getting an instant definition. And/or an automatic Wikipedia link.

Again, there is something in the code for dictionary support - I've not looked into whether this is working or how to use it though.

geneven 2010-11-18 09:43

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 876870)
There's lots of code for a "Network Library" but it looks like this isn't currently enabled for Maemo - I'll have a look into this. Project Gutenberg doesn't appear to be in the current list though - I guess they don't have an appropriate API.


FYI:

I think the name of the site FBReader used to use was Feedbooks.com.

Then it was said that Feedbooks.com was changing its api and the feature stopped existing, though a Russian site continued to be supported for awhile.

If anyone is curious, Feedbooks.com has information at

http://www.feedbooks.com/api

Some information about Project Gutenberg access that might get someone started is at

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenb...ll_EBook_Files

though it's correct that there is apparently no API.

Rob1n 2010-11-18 10:23

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 876870)
I'll take a look at this - I should be able to install the 0.10 version from extras. In the 0.12 version, selection is triggered on press, whereas scroll is on release, so selection will take precedence. I'll take a look at how this was handled on 0.10 though.

I've had a check and 0.10 works in exactly the same way and has the same issues. The only reason scrolling is easier on 0.10 is that opening the groupings can only be done by tapping on the little cross, whereas it's now done by tapping on the group name or image. This means that there's fewer hyperlinked areas on 0.10 to accidentally select than there are on 0.12 (which correspondingly makes it far more difficult to expand/collapse the groupings).

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 876890)
I think the name of the site FBReader used to use was Feedbooks.com.

Okay - Feedbooks is supported (and working) in the desktop version, so I see no reason why the Maemo version shouldn't be able to work with it.

snipenekkid 2010-11-18 12:17

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
just tried the upgrade/install of the new version on my N800/OS2008 (all updates current) and FBReader opens then I see a window, inside FBReader, that the program is updating. What it is updating I can only imagine, maybe the previous catalog? Not sure...have no idea where it would be as I have completely reformatted both memory cards ages ago and I NEVER use this POS tablet.

I was updating from FBReader 0.10.7. I tried several variations of the update and even a clean install but apparently there is something somewhere that is either and/or not removed if I uninstall 0.10.7 or that the current version 0.12.x is trying to find?

Just thought I would pass along that yet another aspect of these crappy Nokia tablets stopped working. Worst tech purchase I ever made.

Rob1n 2010-11-18 13:11

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snipenekkid (Post 876991)
just tried the upgrade/install of the new version on my N800/OS2008 (all updates current) and FBReader opens then I see a window, inside FBReader, that the program is updating. What it is updating I can only imagine, maybe the previous catalog? Not sure...have no idea where it would be as I have completely reformatted both memory cards ages ago and I NEVER use this POS tablet.

It has to update the catalogue database - the format has changed between 0.10 and 0.12. This shouldn't take very long though - I've got around a hundred books in the catalogue and I think it took a minute or two on my N800 (far faster on the N900 of course).

Quote:

Originally Posted by snipenekkid (Post 876991)
I was updating from FBReader 0.10.7. I tried several variations of the update and even a clean install but apparently there is something somewhere that is either and/or not removed if I uninstall 0.10.7 or that the current version 0.12.x is trying to find?

The catalogue (and configuration) are saved in the ~/.FBReader directory, and won't be touched during install/uninstall. If you want a clean start then you can just wipe that directory - it'll get recreated when the application is next started.

snipenekkid 2010-11-18 13:25

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
super!!! :)

I will hunt it down and whack it!! hahahaha...

BTW, sorry for ranting about the N800 as I love the software folks have either written or ported over. Xword is my other always used program beside FBReader. I wish my Kindles used FBReader.

I was bummed because I was happy to see a new update for the first time in ages and then to have it just, well, site then...the app just shut down without any indication anything was happening. And I searched maybe I didn't search closely enough?

Anyway, I truly appreciate the prompt and helpful reply... :D

EDIT: I thought for ebook reading sorts there is an ebook reader device which uses an E-ink epaper panel, they are made by Pocketbook, a Ukraine Company with offices here in the US and around the planet. But someone ported a version of FBReader for their devices. Best of all it runs on their super Pocketbook 360 5" reader.

http://www.pocketbookreader.com/PocketBook_360.html

US based forum;
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65865

That port even lets users calibrate the reader's accelerometer so a simply wrist flick turns the page. Pretty spiffy. Not all the features, obviously as it's a greyscale device but it's pretty nice to have the consistence of the UI, or at least close enough.


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