Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

That was my impression as well, until people started reporting problems upgrading from _5 to _7. In _5, zlibrary was already in libs, not in user/libs.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Had they definitely installed the updated zlibrary with _5?

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

I've just checked on my N900. Installing the updated fbreader doesn't pull in the new libzlibrary, but I was able to install this using "apt-get install" from the command-line without any issues. This is what I'd expect to happen (without any explicit dependency on the new libzlibrary).

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

The people currently affected are a very small set of the whole. Pushing the lib to Extras in user/* will ensure we'll never be able to fix it this generation.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

In other words, there is no solution and there won't be solution in hopes that there will be solution? :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

But the problem is that very few users are able to install via command line. This has to install via HAM.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

There is no pain free solution, but there's a way of decreasing long-term pain at the expense of some acute short-term pain.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Actually, on my good old psion I could read files this big with tomeraider and on my E90, even with mobipocket, which I really miss on the n900... And these devices have less power and memory than the n900.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

FBReader is total **** for viewing CHM files anyway. Build http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=kchmviewer for the N900 which does a much better job.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

I really enjoy fbreader and its one of the first app i will install on my N900 ( when i get it) I just wish that kenetic scrolling can be added to it because that would make its usage even much more a pleasure.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

You will not need kinetic scrolling, it's just a fancy and very impractical for reading a book (finger swipe covering the text...).

The way to do it is how it works now: Simply hold the N900 in portrait mode in your left hand, then your index finger will naturally rest on the volume/zoom buttons. With just a slight click the page turns... minimum movement action needed, reading flow is undisturbed :-)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Two things :

• I prefer to read in landscape mode
• I prefer not to use the hardware buttons as far as possible (since they can wear out)

I think it would be ideal if the app would flip forward a page when the right half of the screen was tapped, and back on the left half.

Also please optify the package. It's taking up valuable root partition space.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

You can't be serious. . . . I've read hundreds of books on my N800 and the zoom rocker works just as well as I did on the day I took it out of the box. Besides, touchscreens wear out too. :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

zlib's rendering is too slow to handle kinetic anyway.

Or with your right and your thumb can scroll. :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

ok im definitly missing something, and ive got confused by the guys having to unisnatll and reistall.


yeah i know being a basic linux user i probablly shouldnt install from the testing area, but man i need an ebook reader. Unless i keep carrting my Axim round till it gets promoted. But that seems silly.


saying that ive no idea how i do install it.
any one point me to how i do instrall it. Its in testing isnt it? not the really dangerous area?

cheers

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

ahhh ok ive worked out how to install. But in the process realised this is in the Deleopment area. possible a bit risky for my Experience. So is there even a rough time lime for it hitting the testing area. As id be much more comfortable installing at that level.

Not sure how long i can live without an ebook reader though

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

it's actually very stable and completely usable, i'm not sure when it'll get pushed to testing, but i've been using it for almost a week now and am more than satisfied with it.

so my recommendation would be ... to use it :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

cgarvie: Not risky at all, as long as you only install certain applications and not keep trying it out.

For FBReader, I fully recommends it. Its very stable and completely usable (like sierrafoxtrot said).

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

All right, the latest version of FBReader (0.10.7_9) should update normally via HAM. I have promoted it to Extras-Testing. Make your votes, ladies and gentlemen!

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

excelent. I'll look at installing this tommorow

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Link to voting page is here:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...ader/0.10.7-9/

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

I am afraid you will also have to vote here:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...rary/0.10.7-9/

or it will not let me promote ZLibrary that is FBReader's dependency.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Sorry for any lack of knowledge, I have not been the best at keeping up on this thread.

Does this mean you actually did keep zlibrarry in user/*? I'm concerned of spreading issues related to it to something that should be for packages people consider ready for Extras

Some personal philosophy: People having issues in extras-devel is fine, its expected, if you don't want it, stay out. Bringing those issues into extras-testing is bad I think because it should reflect what things should be like in extras (if it was deemed ready immediately and promoted, not that issues shouldn't be left to be found in the QA process) which is bad.

More philosophy: an end-user should not be seeing libraries in Extras. This is going to be enabled by default so anyone and everyone will see "zlibrary" as an installation option. What?

I forgot, what is wrong with the solution of packaging zlibrary inside of fbreader rather than separately? is it really gaining an advantage by being a separate library? Even if one other component depends on it, is the amount of advantage of sharing zlibrary's really outweigh the headache of this?

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

No, it is in "libs" now.

I generally ignore navel-gazing matters when I need to solve a concrete problem.

There is at least one other package using it. Do not remember the name.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

~ $ apt-cache rdepends libzlibrary
libzlibrary
Reverse Depends:
fbreader
fbreader
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev
fbreader
fbreader
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev
fbreader
fbreader
libzlibrary-dev

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Still, I distinctly remember a t.m.o thread where MishaS said that he would prefer not to make libzlibrary part of fbreader package, citing another applicaiton depending on it. I would like to respect that, at least until forced to do otherwise :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Agreed. It's the right thing to do. At the very least - if you merge it - you'll bring in complications like dpkg trying to overwrite files in another package. As you will know, there are ways around that but it's stupid trying to implement them as I, too, believe they should be kept separate. :)

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

But I agree with you that it is strange to have a library in extras. HAM is something like an app store (from consumer point of view) and I can't imagine to have libraries in Ovi Store or Apples App Store so is there no way to release the library to the repository but without showing up in HAM? If Maemo should become more famous then it should be easy for beginners and none of them would understand what a library is and why "nothing" has happened after they have installed it.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

I believe by the library being in "libs" rather than "user", it won't show up in HAM. It's still in the repository, but won't show up in the HAM user interface, so that should hopefully answer your concern.

What I'm not quite sure about is what happens if there is a new version of the library. As it won't show up in HAM, presumably it also won't show up when the user is notified about updates, so the user won't be able to update it. Is this correct?

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

I believe his vbataxx game also uses the library (no surprise as he wrote both). On the other hand FBReader always was linked to newest version of the library anyway (the depends line was always to libzlibrary >= the curent version of the library)

Putting it in libs shouldn't be a problem if the depends line requires the latest version. It's only depends on generic stuff like python2.5 (no specific version of 2.5 required) that is likely to cause problems.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

By bringing up my view on things, I was trying to discuss how possible ways of "solv[ing] concrete problems" might hurt everyone else. I am sorry I was not clear enough of why I thought it was important to take a step back and say "do we really want the consequences of the solution?"

To keep this in prospective, I am a heavy user of FBReader and I still drag my n810 around *just* for FBReader but I do not want it rushed into Extras with issues breaking either Nokia's trust in making Extras available by default or confusing end-users and creating a stigma that this is a platform only for geeks.

I can understand and agree with respecting MishaS sentiments at least till we have a full grasp on the issue.

I'm curious what others think. In general, at what point should reused code be a library?

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

did some one not say touch screen worked as defualt. as if it is im doing somthing wrong, but ive only just installed it

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

As with all other libraries that aren't in user/*, they're upgraded when a package that is visible is updated with a newer version in its Depends.

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Hello,
How can I add new font for FBreader . I want to read some vietnamese .prc book but fbreader dont recognize the font .
On my computer in "Styles" ---> ""Family" I much choice "Times New Roman" to read my vietnamese book but there are no Time new roman with fbreader in the N900

Edit : it works for me with the Droid Sherif font

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

OK sorry to be a pest. but can some one confirm that clickin gon screen should turn pages in the testing install. and if it does point me to what i might be doing wrong as i just cant get it to work

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

just go to preferences -> scrolling -> tap on large scrollings, you should see a drop down menu, go to tap scrollings, set msecs @ 100-500, select scrolling mode (i use no overlapping) and make sure scroll on finger tap only is *unchecked*.

now tapping on the (relative) top and bottom halves of the screen should result in page back and page forward respectively. however, use a stylus or your fingernail because pressing with the pad of your finger won't work. also, make sure your taps are deliberate (ie, don't draw a line with the stylus). press and release. and it should scroll.

takes some practice to get used to and it's not 100% reliable unless you use a stylus, which is wy i've switch to using the volume rocker for scrolling :p

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

i am sorry if it has been asked/mentioned before but is it using the accelerometer to change pages etc?

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Cheers.
It must just be me.

i cant get it to work at all. Welll not stricktly true. if i tap like a woodpecker i might sometimes get it to change page.


Otherwise im pretty happy as a mobi pocket replacement.
Not been reading as much as it the Holidays, but im really looking forward to getting stuck in, and im sure i'll live with keyboard and vol controls.


and hope that future versions bring a simpler tap scrolling



NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH
Ive got it working fairly consistantly even with my finger

In the preferences i had the minimum stylus pressure at 0 and max at 100. changing the minimum stylus presure to 20 (10 also seemed ok) really made a difference. Now seems to move forward and back (not that im so fussed with back) with ease

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Since im playing around with it and cant seem to find a manual.

The little toggle off full screen symbol appears every time you tap screen
i see i can turn it off but then i got stuck and had to kill it off. So i set a key to do it (ok but not quite what i want)

can i either reduce the desplay time of the symbol from 5s to 2s or can i make it a bit smaller?

cheers again

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 

Sorry, I'm slightly confused here :)

The header says this build is in Extras-Devel, but I found FBreader in Extras-Testing, is that a different version?

Is this version one that searches for books out on the Net, or an older version? The one in Testing seemed not to have that feature.