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fms 2009-12-30 18:41

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 446781)
The header says this build is in Extras-Devel, but I found FBreader in Extras-Testing, is that a different version?

The latest version is in -Testing.

Quote:

Is this version one that searches for books out on the Net, or an older version? The one in Testing seemed not to have that feature.
This feature is still present, but you have to invoke it from the menu. There wasn't enough space for it at the toolbar.

GeraldKo 2009-12-30 21:14

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
On N8x0 version, is it possible to scroll or jump multiple pages and, using that same interface, also see page numbers?

Kajko 2010-01-03 04:26

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Very nice application. I use the volume buttons to scroll. Just wish that the scrolling was a little easier when using fingers.

volt 2010-01-03 04:49

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
What power settings are you guys using when fbreading? I can only find the "power setting mode" in the N900 settings (...)

Edit: never mind, found it in the simple brightness applet, which leads me to think it was elsewhere too, I just didnt realize the icon led to a sub menu.

cgarvie 2010-01-07 12:35

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
ok another quick question.

Ive got page flicking working just fine with the touch screen but when i try to choose a new book, if its got a little + beside teh author i cant open it as it, just turns the page when i click on it :-(

any suggestions

fms 2010-01-07 14:52

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarvie (Post 457173)
Ive got page flicking working just fine with the touch screen but when i try to choose a new book, if its got a little + beside teh author i cant open it as it, just turns the page when i click on it

It is a known problem. You have to target those little icons in the book list precisely. Then it works.

geneven 2010-01-07 17:11

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
I still can't find the way to search for books on the net (my favorite feature).

If I go to Library/Add book, it gives me a local directory.
If I go to Find, it lets me look for text in whatever selection I have open.

My text background is the nice color you mentioned, so I guess this is a recent version.

fms 2010-01-07 17:14

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 457607)
I still can't find the way to search for books on the net (my favorite feature).

I just checked myself and have not found it either. No problem though: I will add it to the menu in the next version.

geneven 2010-01-07 18:43

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Thanks. In the meantime, the program Mgutenberg works fine for the same purpose.

fms 2010-01-07 18:50

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 457814)
Thanks. In the meantime, the program Mgutenberg works fine for the same purpose.

Or you can visit www.gutenberg.org :)

fms 2010-01-10 18:56

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Hello, All!

I have promoted FBReader 0.10.7-10 build to Extras-Testing. Changes:

* Package optified
* Made background color a bit lighter, font a big bigger.
* Reenabled Net Library and Net Search features. They are now available from the Library View (click on the little folder icon to switch to the Library View).

I hope that everyone present have got their wishes satisfied in this version. Please, give it a try and vote here:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...der/0.10.7-10/

GeraldKo 2010-01-10 19:55

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Main wish (and please let me know if I'm just not using something that's already there):

I can't find a decent way to scroll through a book, or jump to a place in a book, and see where I am. It seems that I have a choice in Preferences either to see page numbers (with no scrollable scroll bar) or to have a usable scrollbar along the side but no page numbers. It makes moving around within a book, as opposed to just going from one page to the next, very difficult.

I'm interested in this for Diablo.

fms 2010-01-10 21:00

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 462741)
Main wish (and please let me know if I'm just not using something that's already there): I'm interested in this for Diablo.

Sorry, only working on the Fremantle version. The Diablo one is good enough, as far as I am concerned.

geneven 2010-01-10 21:43

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Searching the net I only found some Russian authors and no Jane Austen, for example. Must be pointing to a Russian book site?

So feedbooks.com is checked in preferences, but only litres.ru works for me.

fms 2010-01-11 05:55

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 462915)
Searching the net I only found some Russian authors and no Jane Austen, for example. Must be pointing to a Russian book site? So feedbooks.com is checked in preferences, but only litres.ru works for me.

No idea: I have never used this feature or changed it in any way. In other words, it is supposed to work exactly the same way as before.

geneven 2010-01-11 06:59

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
You are right! The same thing happens on my N800, which of course doesn't have the latest version of FBreader installed. So there must be something wrong with Feedbooks.com, though I was able to access it just now from my browser.

Edit: well, something changed about feedbooks.com, not necessarily 'wrong'.

I guess it's possible that feedbooks.com is being blocked for me for some reason -- does this feature work for anyone else?

I posted an inquiry about this in the googlegroups fbreader group.

GeraldKo 2010-01-11 07:36

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 462845)
Sorry, only working on the Fremantle version. The Diablo one is good enough, as far as I am concerned.

Bummer, since it's great, but for being able to move around in it. Obviously it's your call though. Thanks for taking it where you have.


So, is this feature "fixed" in Fremantle?

Quote:

I can't find a decent way to scroll through a book, or jump to a place in a book, and see where I am. It seems that I have a choice in Preferences either to see page numbers (with no scrollable scroll bar) or to have a usable scrollbar along the side but no page numbers. It makes moving around within a book, as opposed to just going from one page to the next, very difficult.

fms 2010-01-11 07:56

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 463483)
So, is this feature "fixed" in Fremantle?

Well, the way you are explaining it, it sounds like you are simply using it wrong. FBReader provides several ways of navigation, see if any of these work for you:

1. Table of contents, if the book has one.
2. Scrollbar, which is ugly so I have it disabled.
3. "Old style" status bar that shows page number and a book progress bar which you touch to jump through the book.
4. Page number entry field which I had to disable in Maemo5 due to lack of toolbar space.
5. Undo/redo buttons that let you quickly switch to positions you previously navigated to. Think of them as autobookmarks.

So, one of these should work for you. Personally, I use #1 and #3.

RevdKathy 2010-01-11 08:26

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 462915)
Searching the net I only found some Russian authors and no Jane Austen, for example. Must be pointing to a Russian book site?

So feedbooks.com is checked in preferences, but only litres.ru works for me.

Project Gutenberg has some Jane Austen.

You might also like this thread. :)

geneven 2010-01-11 12:22

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 463562)
Project Gutenberg has some Jane Austen.

You might also like this thread. :)

I don't need to be told that Project Gutenberg has Jane Austen, thanks; I have probably known that for 15 years.

You might want to check out the Republic of Pembroke web site if you are an Austen fan.

The point is that FBreader makes it easy to download books from certain sites listed in the preferences. Did you even know that? Project Gutenberg isn't a choice. There are only two choices, a Russian site and Feedbooks.com. Feedbooks.com appears to get some books from Project Gutenberg.

However, Feedbooks.com does not work in several versions of FBreader on my tablets, meaning that zero English-language books can be dowmloaded using FBreader at my house.

No one has confirmed this problem; but I suspect it is general.

Edit: By the way, Kathy, you might check out the last post in the thread you thought I might like. It is from me.

lattenwald 2010-01-11 13:06

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Kinetic scroll!!!1 Please :)

GeraldKo 2010-01-11 23:09

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 463512)
Well, the way you are explaining it, it sounds like you are simply using it wrong. FBReader provides several ways of navigation, see if any of these work for you:

1. Table of contents, if the book has one.
2. Scrollbar, which is ugly so I have it disabled.
3. "Old style" status bar that shows page number and a book progress bar which you touch to jump through the book.
4. Page number entry field which I had to disable in Maemo5 due to lack of toolbar space.
5. Undo/redo buttons that let you quickly switch to positions you previously navigated to. Think of them as autobookmarks.

So, one of these should work for you. Personally, I use #1 and #3.

fms, thanks for your reply. I would like to be able to use #3, but when I click on the "book progress bar," it just jumps to the next page of text, the same as if I were to touch anywhere else in the bottom half of the page. So I can't "scroll" or jump forward more than a single page, and I can't jump backwards at all.

I suppose I'm doing something wrong or have some Preference set in a way that causes problems, but I can't figure out what the problem is.

As for #4, are you saying that direct navigation to a page number is somehow accessible, just not from the toolbar? I can't find that method either.

So, answers as to how to do #3 and #4 would be greatly appreciated.

adancau 2010-01-11 23:13

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
is there a way to fremantle-ify the preferences menu (tidy it up for fremantle basically)? :) at the moment some of the input boxes in preferences and book properties are clearly cut off.
and on a side note, thank you for all your effort in porting fbreader :)

geneven 2010-01-12 03:08

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 463422)
You are right! The same thing happens on my N800, which of course doesn't have the latest version of FBreader installed. So there must be something wrong with Feedbooks.com, though I was able to access it just now from my browser.

Edit: well, something changed about feedbooks.com, not necessarily 'wrong'.

I guess it's possible that feedbooks.com is being blocked for me for some reason -- does this feature work for anyone else?

I posted an inquiry about this in the googlegroups fbreader group.


Here is the answer from the FBreader googlegroup:


geneven
I can't get books from feedbooks.com on two different versions of FBreader, one on my Nokia N800 and one on my Nokia N900. feedbooks.com is checked in the preferences. A Russian book site, also checked, works fine. I wonder if it is blocked in my area (to defend against spam, say) or it is a general problem.
Jan 10, 11:16 pm

geometer

Hi,
That's because the feedbooks API has been changed. New feedbooks API
is used in 0.12.* that will be released for maemo platform in February
2010.
Best,
-- Nikolay

fms 2010-01-12 05:44

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 465355)
I would like to be able to use #3, but when I click on the "book progress bar," it just jumps to the next page of text, the same as if I were to touch anywhere else in the bottom half of the page. So I can't "scroll" or jump forward more than a single page, and I can't jump backwards at all.

Once again, I cannot say much about your Maemo4 configuration. In the configuration I have set as default with Maemo5, the progress bar does work, although it is kinda tiny, so you have to aim well. You are welcome to look at the default configuration for Maemo5 (in ~/.FBReader) and try it in Maemo4 version.

Quote:

As for #4, are you saying that direct navigation to a page number is somehow accessible, just not from the toolbar?
In Maemo5 version, there was a numeric field in the toolbar letting you enter the page number. I had to remove it as it was taking too much space. :(

fms 2010-01-12 05:45

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adancau (Post 465363)
is there a way to fremantle-ify the preferences menu (tidy it up for fremantle basically)?

It is possible and I have even looked at it, but I do not have time to work at it at the moment. Sorry.

RevdKathy 2010-01-12 08:10

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 463975)
I don't need to be told that Project Gutenberg has Jane Austen, thanks; I have probably known that for 15 years.

You might want to check out the Republic of Pembroke web site if you are an Austen fan.

The point is that FBreader makes it easy to download books from certain sites listed in the preferences. Did you even know that? Project Gutenberg isn't a choice. There are only two choices, a Russian site and Feedbooks.com. Feedbooks.com appears to get some books from Project Gutenberg.

However, Feedbooks.com does not work in several versions of FBreader on my tablets, meaning that zero English-language books can be dowmloaded using FBreader at my house.

No one has confirmed this problem; but I suspect it is general.

Edit: By the way, Kathy, you might check out the last post in the thread you thought I might like. It is from me.

Oops!

No, I didn't know that frbreader will look for books. I only have the version from extras so far, and I haven't found that function. Reading your post it sounded like you were having trouble finding books. Clearerly you're not. I apologise for misreading your post.

fms 2010-01-16 13:36

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Is it just me or has the full screen exit icon gone opaque for everybody else, after upgrading to PR1.1?

lemmyslender 2010-01-16 15:14

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 476136)
Is it just me or has the full screen exit icon gone opaque for everybody else, after upgrading to PR1.1?

Same here. But it doesn't advance the page anymore when I exit fullscreen either, so that's ok.

Pejman 2010-01-16 19:15

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
How about search function? Any plan to include that in final release?

geneven 2010-01-16 19:29

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pejman (Post 476662)
How about search function? Any plan to include that in final release?

There is a technical delay in the search function that is included -- the site that they use is undergoing changes and the method for searching won't be available for a month or two, the FBreader folkperson told me.

I would rather they made FBreader download from Gutenberg.org, but they have chosen not to do that so far, so apparently we will just have to wait.

Fortunately, the program Mgutenberg works fine and is available for the N900 right now; it works well in conjunction with FBreader so us lazy people can relax.

fms 2010-02-23 07:53

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
A short update on the FBReader status:

1. I am currently working to eliminate battery drain caused by the timer that ticks when the on-screen clock is enabled.

2. The transparent full-screen icon has gone opaque again starting with PR1.1. Also, it has become much harder to tap scroll pages starting with PR1.1. Disabling the full-screen icon makes tap scrolling work again. Qwerty12, could you take a look at what is going on with that button one more time? =)

3. I have done some research on how click detection works in FBReader. It is way more complicated than one would expect. Among other things, enabling "finger only tap scrolling" does nothing as Maemo cannot differentiate between finger and stylus taps. Will probably just remove this option from the Maemo version to avoid confusing people.

tirtawn 2010-02-28 06:02

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
look forward for the update. There is no day without me using fbreader :).

geneven 2010-03-15 02:14

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Did I mention I've been reading my legitimately-purchased Kindle books on the FBReader? Yes, after using the unswindle program and Kindle for PC to help get rid of the drm. Sometimes it's more convenient for me to read on the N900 than on the Kindle.

How is FBReader development going,anyone know? It's been a few weeks since we've heard anything new.

The fbreader.com site says that

"FBReader 0.12.7 for Linux/Windows computers and SmartQ devices is released (March 5, 2010)"

Does that mean anything to us N900 folks?

fms 2010-03-21 13:34

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Hello All!

I have uploaded the new version of FBReader (0.10.7-11) to the Extras-Testing. This version fixes the battery drain incurred by the status bar clock. Please, vote for it here:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...der/0.10.7-11/

Yes, you SHOULD vote for it if you want to see it in Extras. Thank you.

tirtawn 2010-03-22 04:06

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
thanks, Upgraded mine and voted.

Alan_Peery 2010-03-22 16:02

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 465595)
That's because the feedbooks API has been changed. New feedbooks API is used in 0.12.* that will be released for maemo platform in February 2010.

I am still having problems with searching on Feedbooks, or believe I am as I would expect "Marx" to return at least one book... ;-)

fms 2010-03-22 16:16

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan_Peery (Post 577339)
I am still having problems with searching on Feedbooks, or believe I am as I would expect "Marx" to return at least one book... ;-)

My guess is that FeedBooks API is still down.

sierrafoxtrot 2010-05-25 15:32

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
don't know if it's a bug or not but now that i've updated to PR1.2 fbreader takes 10-15s to load a book when it only used to take 1-3s. needs to be recompiled with 1.2 sdk autobuilder? i'm not a dev so i i could be talking out my a** lol.

just a fyi

:)

lemmyslender 2010-05-25 18:16

Re: New FBReader build in Extras-Devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sierrafoxtrot (Post 676198)
don't know if it's a bug or not but now that i've updated to PR1.2 fbreader takes 10-15s to load a book when it only used to take 1-3s. needs to be recompiled with 1.2 sdk autobuilder? i'm not a dev so i i could be talking out my a** lol.

just a fyi

:)


Seeing the same here (and previously on leaked firmware). Just tap the screen and it will go to the book without waiting.


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