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LazyFox 2010-01-09 15:39

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
one more thing I've missed to add

vertical (up-down) desktops scrolling could be nice
in addition to current left-right

Caesar 2010-01-09 15:54

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
search .in file manager e.g. when searching a ringtone in own music
selecting a ringtone in music player would be nice as well..

RevdKathy 2010-01-09 17:47

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Looking at some of these, I'm suprised no-one is expecting a pony and a ferrari in their update,.

At a best guess, it will have connection for 3 sims, a solution to the reboot problem, and a bit more speed and slickness. Anything else will be a bonus.

chrisp7 2010-01-09 18:20

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 461324)
Looking at some of these, I'm suprised no-one is expecting a pony and a ferrari in their update,.

At a best guess, it will have connection for 3 sims, a solution to the reboot problem, and a bit more speed and slickness. Anything else will be a bonus.

Considering the fact that portrait mode was promised in December - Im expecting portrait mode which is massively important.

Dave999 2010-01-09 18:23

Re: what you want most in the firmaware update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 459467)
Improve Ovi maps!

hell yeah:D

sjgadsby 2010-01-09 18:29

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 461354)
Considering the fact that portrait mode for the web browser was promised in December - Im expecting portrait mode for the web browser, which is massively important.

I've supplied those few, important words you accidentally left out.

casper27 2010-01-09 18:41

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What do I think the next firmware update will bring?
Alot more questions and a few different problems.

Just the pesemist inside airing his feelings

twoboxen 2010-01-09 18:45

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 461324)
Looking at some of these, I'm suprised no-one is expecting a pony and a ferrari in their update,.

At a best guess, it will have connection for 3 sims, a solution to the reboot problem, and a bit more speed and slickness. Anything else will be a bonus.

True, they've only had since September to work on it... so we should keep our expectations to ~3-5 bug fixes. Apparently, their entire team has been struggling to fix two bugs for four months.

Man, you're easy to please. At this rate, your phone will get new features in 2013-14.

volt 2010-01-09 18:47

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
I expect bug fixes. Maybe some minor functionality holes partly patched.

I have had lots of firmware upgrades on lots of hardware devices, and they rarely bring a lot of new functionality.

I most certainly do not expect them to come* with a new version of Ovi Maps. I honestly can't see any reason to believe they'd convert an old version of Ovi Maps into something that would work on Maemo, just to have it replaced a month or two later.

* as a firmware patch. I fully expect at some time there will be a full gps solution - as payware.

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 18:56

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Minor tweaks
Bug and functionality holes fixes
Slightly improved performance, battery and camera
Ovi Store and Maemo Extras integration
3 SIM-card problem fixed
MfE 2003
No portrait mode for anything yet
No Ovi Maps improvement yet

This will mostly be a "bug fix" update. The latter one might add further funtionality. Hopefully there will be more firmware updates, aside from the first two...

RevdKathy 2010-01-09 19:01

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 461381)
True, they've only had since September to work on it... so we should keep our expectations to ~3-5 bug fixes. Apparently, their entire team has been struggling to fix two bugs for four months.

Man, you're easy to please. At this rate, your phone will get new features in 2013-14.

Ahh, you don't see the point about it running faster, smoother and more slick. I strongly suspect most of the effort of the last couple of months has gone into changing things that will not make any Big Ticket impact. Maybe slightly improved battery life, faster load times, quicker transitions, the sorts of things that aren't noticed unless you use the device enough to notice an imporvement in performance.

In addition to which, I don't kid myself that issues like the 3 simcard compatibility is a 'small' or 'easy' fix.

Toufmag 2010-01-09 19:16

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
What is 3 sim bug ?

RevdKathy 2010-01-09 19:19

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
No-one on the mobile network '3' can use an n900 at all on any sort of connection other than wifi. I'd say that was a pretty big bug.

anapospastos 2010-01-09 19:20

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 461397)
No portrait mode for anything yet
No Ovi Maps improvement yet

This will mostly be a "bug fix" update. The latter one might add further funtionality. Hopefully there will be more firmware updates, aside from the first two...

Portrait mode is not important issue for me but ovi maps really nead improvement.

Toufmag 2010-01-09 19:25

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 461453)
No-one on the mobile network '3' can use an n900 at all on any sort of connection other than wifi. I'd say that was a pretty big bug.

Sorry i'm french and don't know what mobile network "3" is ?

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 19:29

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toufmag (Post 461466)
Sorry i'm french and don't know what mobile network "3" is ?

Hutchison 3G is a brand name under which several UMTS based mobile phone networks are operated in Australia, Austria, Croatia, Denmark, Hong Kong and Macau, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

By the way, the bug "only" applies to some 3 SIM-cards.

volt 2010-01-09 19:30

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Company: http://www.three.com/

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchison_3G

Toufmag 2010-01-09 19:30

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Thanks a lot

ok and the bug comes from N900 and not this brand ?

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 19:36

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toufmag (Post 461471)
Thanks a lot

ok and the bug comes from N900 and not this brand ?

The bug comes from the brand's lack of 2G network, but the N900 should be able to recieve calls in 3G as well.

That One Guy 2010-01-09 19:39

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I don't understand why some of you guys are so hung up on portrait support for the web browser...

Why would someone want to be able to only see 1/2 of a webpage page width on the the N900?

Toufmag 2010-01-09 19:41

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ok so if I stay in 3G mode i can't receive call in france too ?

what is the name of the bug in crash reporter ?

bonerp 2010-01-09 19:43

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 461453)
No-one on the mobile network '3' can use an n900 at all on any sort of connection other than wifi. I'd say that was a pretty big bug.

I'd say its a pretty big deal that its not working on 3 sims! 3 network offers the best deal on data in the UK and if they don't sort it soon, its a fair chunk of the market IMHO that could be pushed away.

....and fixing 3/4 faults in the first release? I seriously hope they do better than that!!!!!!

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 19:47

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
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Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 461490)
I'd say its a pretty big deal that its not working on 3 sims! 3 network offers the best deal on data in the UK and if they don't sort it soon, its a fair chunk of the market IMHO that could be pushed away.

....and fixing 3/4 faults in the first release? I seriously hope they do better than that!!!!!!


ok what deal do they offer on data?

most networks have 600-800 mins 500 plus txts unlimited internet for 20 quid;; not sure on 3, its a network i know nothing about- it gets really bad reviews
but this is immaterial the n900 should work on all networks.

bonerp 2010-01-09 19:54

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticrokks (Post 461500)
ok what deal do they offer on data?

most networks have 600-800 mins 500 plus txts unlimited internet for 20 quid;; not sure on 3, its a network i know nothing about- it gets really bad reviews
but this is immaterial the n900 should work on all networks.

I'm on a flexT type deal. £180 of credit with unlimited internet for £26 per month.
I currently have a 30 day contract on Vodafone due to the problem but for £20 I have only 500mb of data and 600 mins call time, which on this phone I could easily go over 500mb.

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 20:01

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toufmag (Post 461485)
ok so if I stay in 3G mode i can't receive call in france too ?

what is the name of the bug in crash reporter ?

This only applies to 3 because the carrier lacks a 2G network, which obviously isn't your operator's case.

twoboxen 2010-01-09 20:03

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 461413)
Ahh, you don't see the point about it running faster, smoother and more slick.

No, I saw that, but since it was completely abstract I had no idea what you were trying to get at. I guess some massive "catch-all" category, so you could be "right" when this is released.

Quote:

In addition to which, I don't kid myself that issues like the 3 simcard compatibility is a 'small' or 'easy' fix.
You must not be a developer. Perhaps a development manager subscribing to the "1 month baby with 9 engineers" mode of development? There is no way even a big bug occupies more than 2-3 engineers. It is totally counter-productive.

And IF they are putting more than that on it, I guess we see why the development seems to be so slow.

egoshin 2010-01-09 20:26

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LazyFox (Post 461098)
2. 3G Video Calls

This feature improvement would push N900 to market top!

Quote:

0. Bug Fixes
10. Improved Power Management
1. MMS Support
That should be a first-priority for first F/W release

volt 2010-01-13 12:05

Re: What do you think the first Firmware update will bring?
 
So, the first Firmware update wasn't all that some people would have it be. In example, it wasn't new. I didn't expect the app manager to get these huge category icons, for sure. And Nokia had prioritized some updates to partner company software installers. Oh well.

I hope someone had some of their bugs fixed.


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