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joa 2010-03-09 20:20

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Yeah, I think we can all agree, Nokia put failbots on this job.
Or maybe this was just designed as more incentive to upgrade to step 5 but it failed too quickly ;)

Now they can only attempt to fix the job rather than design it right from the start.

It's hard to get too much reinforcement for a power plug. It's especially true for a power plug that someone might attempt to insert upside down (as opposed to the barrels plugs).

brian_may 2010-03-10 00:10

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haus3r (Post 550875)
It appears the issue has been resolved. Brian should receive a n900 shortly. Hurray!

Just to confirm I have now received a replacement phone and the situation has been resolved.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...2599&p=26#r504

I asked for, and received a Nexus One, as I have no confidence in the N900s right now. Maybe Nokia will fix the problems in the next model...

Thank you for everyone who assisted.

Brian May

chrisp7 2010-03-10 00:41

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Le_Petit_Lapin (Post 561693)
I reckon I'll sell my n900 on Ebay when it gets back to me, I don't have time for a phone that I don't have use of for a couple of weeks as some of you are reporting.

Are you on OcUk? I might do the same mate - all quite sad I had such expectations.

jjx 2010-03-10 01:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 558521)
Two weeks!! The Nokia Service centre here said 5 days and that is bad enough.

I just don't understand the delay. It takes hours to asses and then decide upon a replacement. What are they doing for the other 13 days!!!

Queuing with all the other phones sent for repair, obviously.

les_garten 2010-03-10 01:12

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian_may (Post 561936)
Just to confirm I have now received a replacement phone and the situation has been resolved.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...2599&p=26#r504

I asked for, and received a Nexus One, as I have no confidence in the N900s right now. Maybe Nokia will fix the problems in the next model...

Thank you for everyone who assisted.

Brian May

I don't know if I Hate to Love it

or

Love to Hate it.

But I would not want any other phone. I have no interest in the Nexus or any other Android Phone.

So I have to Love it when it's good and Hate it when it's irritating.

I think if Nokia was taking the bug fixes more seriously, I would be a lot happier. We should have got fixes much quicker. That would go a long way in Good Will to the customer. Nokia does not seem to be "on fire" to address issues, as evidenced by this thread.

felbutss 2010-03-10 01:28

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Some people will fined it takes longer then others to fix your n900. This is because nokia have to order your part in and it will for some take a while to come in. They order a batch at a time. Nokia don’t like to keep a backlog of the high end mobiles parts in stock. If you wondering why apple are 300 times quicker then nokia in repairs, it’s because they only sell 1 phone and do keep backlogs of stock.

O and by the way I had to wait a month when my n95 was faulty. I waited for a little piece of plastic to come in. they ordered the part from Sydney which needed to come to Melbourne which is only 500miles away.

Ps: nokia don’t use mail they still use horses to deliver parts

Texrat 2010-03-10 01:37

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 561999)
I think if Nokia was taking the bug fixes more seriously, I would be a lot happier.

Around 500 bugs fixed so far.

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 01:37

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
ok huys a update my phone should be back with me tomorrow or thursday depending on ups leaving it with a neighbour or not fingers crossed it is actually repaired and that i dont have the same problem again

i sent them my phone last mionday they recieved it last tuesday and it was picked up by ups today so they had it for a week which isnt bad

i will let you all know how the device is once it is back with me and if the port feels more stable etc

i hope this is the last time i have to worry about this problem however unless they have changed the design i can see this being a repat problem some time in the future

has anyone who has recieved a replacement or epair had any problems or felt like i was starting to woblle again etc

felbutss 2010-03-10 01:46

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562009)
Around 500 bugs fixed so far.



wow. thats a big number. but many of the bugs were very obvious as soon as i got my n900.

les_garten 2010-03-10 01:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562009)
Around 500 bugs fixed so far.

I guess they have a freakin' Mountain of them to fix, ehhh?

:D

And a lot of those Fixes have not arrived on "anybody's" phone yet.

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 02:29

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 562017)
I guess they have a freakin' Mountain of them to fix, ehhh?

:D

And a lot of those Fixes have not arrived on "anybody's" phone yet.

lol yeah the fixed in harmattan tag line is a tad anoying

maysys 2010-03-10 04:54

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I sent mine into repair via the Nokia USA web link last week. Sent it out on Thursday, received a brand new one back via fedex today.

That's a quick turnaround. Got the same letter as others had gotten: unable to be repaired, so it was replaced. It came with the original shipping firmware on it, I had to update it twice before it was up to date.

Now to get it all pimped out again. I wasn't able to do a backup of my old one, due to not being able to charge it...

les_garten 2010-03-10 08:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ddwwf1 (Post 562042)
lol yeah the fixed in harmattan tag line is a tad anoying

Otherwise known as "fixed in the OS that we won't tell you whether you're getting it or not"

That kinda sounds like NOT FIXED to me.

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 09:47

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 562187)
Otherwise known as "fixed in the OS that we won't tell you whether you're getting it or not"

That kinda sounds like NOT FIXED to me.

yeah that does sound like the case however i do hold out the hope that meego will be available eventually for the n900 even if it is through comunity implementation apart from this usb issue i find that everything i have wanted to do so far with my phone i have been able to things like mms etc i can take or leave

pelago 2010-03-10 10:06

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Woah, let's not get too off-topic for this thread!

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 562293)
Woah, let's not get too off-topic for this thread!

sorry about that one lol we shall remain on topic

shadowjk 2010-03-10 11:14

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When looking at the high speed footage from the drop tests at nokia's test centre, I get a bit hesitant about the idea of attaching the connector to the outer case...

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowjk (Post 562348)
When looking at the high speed footage from the drop tests at nokia's test centre, I get a bit hesitant about the idea of attaching the connector to the outer case...

do u have a link to video

Matan 2010-03-10 12:46

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562009)
Around 500 bugs fixed so far.

Of course, some of those bugs were reported for diablo (or even bora), so counting now as bugs fixed is nothing but lying with numbers.

systemparadox 2010-03-10 16:37

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Yey! My N900 is back and fixed! Took about a week I think.

Milhouse 2010-03-10 16:58

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 562452)
Of course, some of those bugs were reported for diablo (or even bora), so counting now as bugs fixed is nothing but lying with numbers.

Not sure what criteria has been used to obtain that figure, but it may include bugs marked as duplicates. Most bugs nowadays have at least one duplicate due to new owners not searching, and thinking they're the first to find a bug... :)

Texrat 2010-03-10 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 562452)
Of course, some of those bugs were reported for diablo (or even bora), so counting now as bugs fixed is nothing but lying with numbers.

Are you sure that's the case, or is this just another example of kneejerk negativity?

Matan 2010-03-10 17:17

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Could you not check it for yourself, or is it just another example of kneejerk fanboyism?

I don't know where the 500 number comes from, but for example, Maemo Official Platform Bug Jar 2010.05 includes fixed bugs

1635: submitted in 2007, and still not fixed - I can't connect to eduroam with my N900.

3659: submitted in 2008.

4579: Submitted in May 2009.

Texrat 2010-03-10 17:23

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 562747)
Could you not check it for yourself, or is it just another example of kneejerk fanboyism?.

Here's a suggestion: read through this entire thread and accuse me of "fanboyism".

Read my blog articles on the microUSB issue and accuse me of "fanboyism".

That's merely a naive assessment from someone who does nothing in this forum but gripe without purpose.

If you have nothing to contribute on this subject, troll elsewhere.

les_garten 2010-03-10 18:18

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562739)
Are you sure that's the case, or is this just another example of kneejerk negativity?


Let me first say, thanx for the help in this thread and all the other threads you've done great stuff in. Bravo! Kudos! Citations!

Now, kneejerk negativity? You know better than that.

All the Tar and Feathers on Nokia is WELL earned and Justified. They are jsut plain clueless and inept here. This thread is evidence of it. I can't believe they didn't have port failures on the "FREE" phones. A lot of them. "Supposedly" this was addressed, ohh well, we see where that has got us.

Why can't we have the basic phone functionality that comes on a "Free" phone on a $25/month phone contract? On and On, the screwups on this device match it's brilliance, step for step.

It is brilliant, no doubt about it.

I had to spend $500 to find a Bluetooth headset that would be usable?? The BT headset that was bundled with the original NOKIA website deal had to be taken back because it wouldn't work with their own Phone! The level of idiocy here is epoch! Who does their freakin' QC? It seems they don't have one of THOSE departments.

Sorry to turn this into a Nokia rant thread, but your comments and defense of this inept company hit my button.

So Much Potential...
Yet
So Much Ineptitude...

Texrat 2010-03-10 18:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 562803)
Sorry to turn this into a Nokia rant thread, but your comments and defense of this inept company hit my button.

I see colors where some see black and white.

EDIT: I'm also curious as to how/where you extrapolated "defense of the company".

Arrancamos 2010-03-10 18:36

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Hi guys, I'am back from time ago.

May anyone tell me if this fix reaches NokiaUSA (Miami for example) ??

Really appreciate any information. TY

les_garten 2010-03-10 18:38

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562806)
I see colors where some see black and white.

EDIT: I'm also curious as to how/where you extrapolated "defense of the company".

1) Your all the bugs that were fixed comment, when it's obvious to most everybody else that fixed in Maemo 6 is BS
2) Knee jerk negativity comment. I've seen very little complained about that is undeserved. This thread for instance, should not exist. Nokia knew of this problem before it released the phone.

Presently, I don't think much of Finnish engineering. Perhaps they should hire some Germans!

That's what Harley-Davidson did. They called Porsche. Then we got the Evo and Twin Cam engines.

Texrat 2010-03-10 18:42

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 562821)
1) Your all the bugs that were fixed comment, when it's obvious to most everybody else that fixed in Maemo 6 is BS
2) Knee jerk negativity comment. I've seen very little complained about that is undeserved. This thread for instance, should not exist. Nokia knew of this problem before it released the phone.

Presently, I don't think much of Finnish engineering. Perhaps they should hire some Germans!

That's what Harley-Davidson did. They called Porsche. Then we got the Evo and Twin Cam engines.

1) I never said all bugs were fixed. Please read more carefully.

2) The kneejerk remark was directed at a specific user for a specific reason. Neither you nor anyone else was implied.

You are pulling in way too many things around what I say, whereas I am being very, very specific.

serenebl 2010-03-10 18:43

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I send my n9800 to nokia and the repare centre wil not fix the problem my connector is out of my n900. The n900 is not repareble so nokia said. What can i do. He was only 3 weeks old when it happends.
Joop from holland

Texrat 2010-03-10 18:47

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by serenebl (Post 562831)
I send my n9800 to nokia and the repare centre wil not fix the problem my connector is out of my n900. The n900 is not repareble so nokia said. What can i do. He was only 3 weeks old when it happends.
Joop from holland

It sounds like this repair center is unaware of recent communications from corporate. Go back to them and inform them that Nokia Corporate has agreed to fix these under warranty at no cost to owners. Read the last few pages of this thread for examples that you can cite.

Be persistent!

les_garten 2010-03-10 18:57

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 562828)
1) I never said all bugs were fixed. Please read more carefully.

2) The kneejerk remark was directed at a specific user for a specific reason. Neither you nor anyone else was implied.

You are pulling in way too many things around what I say, whereas I am being very, very specific.

You're misinterpreting my statement for your own use here. Read this again.

"1) Your all the bugs that were fixed comment, when it's obvious to most everybody else that fixed in Maemo 6 is BS"

Notice the use of the word that. I didn't say you said all the bugs were fixed. Makes a big difference in what I was saying. I'm saying the bugs that were fixed, were not fixed, if they are happening in the next OS that we may or may not get.

And I am certain Nokia knows whether the N900 is getting Maemo6/Meego1/Hammaten or whatever it's called today.

If it's fixed in Meego 48, who cares if they have a N900 with Maemo 5??

Texrat 2010-03-10 19:06

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 562841)
You're misinterpreting my statement for your own use here. Read this again.

"1) Your all the bugs that were fixed comment, when it's obvious to most everybody else that fixed in Maemo 6 is BS"

Notice the use of the word that. I didn't say you said all the bugs were fixed. Makes a big difference in what I was saying. I'm saying the bugs that were fixed, were not fixed, if they are happening in the next OS that we may or may not get.

And I am certain Nokia knows whether the N900 is getting Maemo6/Meego1/Hammaten or whatever it's called today.

If it's fixed in Meego 48, who cares if they have a N900 with Maemo 5??

Now you're implying I did that to twist your words. I didn't. Your syntax was a little hard to follow, but I see now I erred, sorry.

Look: I realize the micoUSB issue has caused anxiety. It sure did for me. I am just working to stay objective in order to facilitate a proper resolution for everyone. Namecalling, ranting, unsafe assumptions don't help. Sober persistence does.

As for bugs-- my reply was specific to the misguided claim that "nothing" was being done. I am not going to defend ineptitude, malfeasance, oversight or anything else counter to providing customers with proper service. However, I will respond to hyperbole with data that is made available to me. My understanding is that the ~500 bugs applied to Maemo 5; if this is in error I apologize.

But let's please throttle down the hostility. I realize that applies to my own remarks.

ddwwf1 2010-03-10 19:19

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
in other news i have a N900 it wasnt my original as IMEI number is different being very carefull with usb port will let yo know how it holds up however this new device feels nice and tight and new i like it lol

Arrancamos 2010-03-10 19:59

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrancamos (Post 562819)
Hi guys, I'am back from time ago.

May anyone tell me if this fix reaches NokiaUSA (Miami for example) ??

Really appreciate any information. TY

Any reply/info for this please guys...
Regards.

alexreed88 2010-03-10 22:01

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alexreed88 (Post 560581)
I sent mine in on Wednesday. They received it on Friday, and shipped me a replacement on today. Couldn't have asked for a better result.

sigh.
I take all that back. Got a refurb today...the junk doesnt charge correctly. I am so freakin pissed. Nokia will never get another dime from me..with this trash arse build quality..first time spending full amount on a phone..guess im a fool for buying from Nokia. Never again...

les_garten 2010-03-10 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alexreed88 (Post 563055)
sigh.
I take all that back. Got a refurb today...the junk doesnt charge correctly. I am so freakin pissed. Nokia will never get another dime from me..with this trash arse build quality..first time spending full amount on a phone..guess im a fool for buying from Nokia. Never again...

Sir, you are a Kneejerk, Knathering, Knaybob, of Knegativism!

:D

bockersjv 2010-03-11 08:33

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrancamos (Post 562920)
Any reply/info for this please guys...
Regards.

There is no "fix" that will be making its way anywhere. This thread is about making Nokia realise that there is a problem and not telling people they must have inflicted the damage themselves.

Nokia have acknowledged the issue but spreading that to all their service centres worldwide will be an issue. So if you encounter this problem and get refused help from your local service centre use this thread as evidence that Nokia are aware of the issue and your N900 should be fixed under warantee.

Given that there seems to be little or no change to the MicroUSB sockets on those N900 that have been replaced, we can only summize that maybe this was an issue with a faulty set of motherboards with weak solder pads.

There is no recall or Nokia official information on what exactely the problem is/was as far as I am aware.

John

edit to add... This thread seems to have had a number of recent, and relevant, posts deleted. What is happening?

jdave76 2010-03-11 10:31

Re: Problems with N900 USB port becoming broken / loose and resulting warranty & repair issues
 
got second replacement after they sent me wrong keyboard version, but this one does not charge over usb, says insifficient power and wil not connect to pc suit . my origional n900 connected and charged fine with same computer and cable.has any one else got this problem with thier replacement.:confused:

Haus3r 2010-03-11 10:52

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Quote:

edit to add... This thread seems to have had a number of recent, and relevant, posts deleted. What is happening?
Can someone please comment? If anything in this nature happened: well, it shouldnt!


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