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Rushmore 2009-12-16 18:24
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajamils (Post 430752)
Rushmore,

So BIS is another GUI like KM?
More simple GUI than KM. I prefer KM's look and options, but I can not figure out why some vids do not play when using it. It is just a few though that I have tried (out of ten, so 20% rate).

I would think it is KM and it not linking to mplayer and using the default, but using KM plays videos that do NOT work on the default player.

Small tiny issues and not even release level apps yet, so no problem. I appreciate the people's efforts to have these apps to use:)

j.s 2009-12-16 22:06
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajamils (Post 430722)
Just tried it with couple of files that were not working on default player. They work like a charm on Mplayer :D. The only issue I see is that there are no buttons in full screen...so you have to double tap in order to minimize the screen and then pause the video.
Does the mplayer native UI still work when it is launched by a GUI? If so, the "f" key toggles full screen. Left arrow backs up 10 seconds, right arrow goes forward 10s. Up arrow forward 1 minute, down arrow back 1m.

ajamils 2009-12-16 22:40
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.s (Post 431077)
Does the mplayer native UI still work when it is launched by a GUI? If so, the "f" key toggles full screen. Left arrow backs up 10 seconds, right arrow goes forward 10s. Up arrow forward 1 minute, down arrow back 1m.
Just tested it, only left and right arrow seem to be working.

One thing I noticed that if you play a file and after that you try to open another file (either by after pausing or stopping the original file) the player does not work. It does not open another file. You have to exit the player and launch it again to play the second file.

Anybody else has similar experience ?

OptX 2009-12-17 05:25
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sampppa (Post 430719)
There is no support for rtsp in current mplayer port...
Thanks. So there maby will be ?

bunanson 2009-12-17 07:57
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 429612)
Assuming devs for Mplayer would have had the time to focus on a release with the N900 launch, of course.

I installed Mplayer and it has played almost everything I have tried. I am now up to 95% and close to the same sweet level as the Archos 5:)

At best, the default player (even with the codecs added) plays 70% and some with ghosting, partial green screens and dropped frames. Not seeing these issues with Mplayer. Just great results:)

I hope that Mplayer gets released soon and adds:

1. UI
2. On screen controls
3. Fix- fast forward needed to make some avi and MP4 files to play.
4. Read video headers (some files that are numbered have the title in the header). Example is file viewer does not, but the media player on the N900 does read them.

MINOR quibbles for a GREAT playing media player that is not even released yet:)

Mplayer ROCKS!
I observed exactly the opposite. WorldTV99 has mplayer, ossomp (the built-in default media player) flash player, among the three, ossomp plays a lot smoother/well behaved then mplayer. You can select the same tv station and observe side by side. WorldTV99 info here.

bun

joppu 2009-12-17 10:31
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 430584)
Aren't those two players mainly for audio?
Definitely not.

Rushmore 2009-12-17 15:00
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 431504)
I observed exactly the opposite. WorldTV99 has mplayer, ossomp (the built-in default media player) flash player, among the three, ossomp plays a lot smoother/well behaved then mplayer. You can select the same tv station and observe side by side. WorldTV99 info here.

bun
Great for you! I just know that the default player plays some very smooth, others with lower frame rates, choppy, not at all, green screen, ghosting, etc. 70% of the files played, but a third of the 70% had the issues noted here (other than not at all, of course) and almost all of them stutter for at least the first few seconds. Mplayer buffers before playing- the default player apparently does not, or not as well as Mplayer.

Mplayer plays everything I have tried smoothly. Only exception being some higher res wmv files that even the Archos 5 struggles with.

added:

Built in player would be the obvious choice to use since part of the framework, but needs to perform as good as Mplayer before I bother for offline vids. Hope we see an update for the default player, since the N900 proves to play a lot of vids very well.

wmarone 2009-12-19 05:10
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Gonna bump this, rather than making a new thread.

I'm trying to play some 1280x720 h.264 videos with Mplayer and SiB, however when I try to actually play a video nothing ever appears, and I get a constant spam on the console:


VDec: sing Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspecct is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [xv] 1280x720 => 1280x720 Planar YV12 [fs]
VDec: vo config request - 1280 x 720 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)


and get no audio or video. When I play a smaller, simpler video (DivX 5 in AVI @ 640x480), it gets approximately 2 seconds in then the playback output stops cold. The system is still running, but console output and video quit.

Apparently smooth video playback is possible on this thing is possible with mplayer. If anyone knows how to get video at least playing, to start, that'd be helpful.

bandora 2009-12-19 05:56
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
I don't see what's so bad about the N900 default media player.... It just needs a couple tweaks.. like Portrait mode (easy to navigate), Basic Equaliser (like the S60 maybe), Support for changing the song's information (again like the S60).. Everything else is great.

hm88 2009-12-19 06:18
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
No need for that anymore (i think).
The new download in "multimedia" gives more support to audio-video codec. Now, all my videos (tested so far) works (when it wasn't previously)!

nashith 2009-12-20 23:35
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Anybody tried an interlaced clip with MPlayer? Mine just go crazy and the screen keeps flashing. Can't even terminate sometimes, had to remove battery.

Rushmore 2009-12-21 13:54
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hm88 (Post 434162)
No need for that anymore (i think).
The new download in "multimedia" gives more support to audio-video codec. Now, all my videos (tested so far) works (when it wasn't previously)!
New download?

ajamils 2009-12-22 13:50
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
downloading codec pack has made my videos work now. Before, I was only able to play them via Mplayer but now they work great in default media player as well.

jspenguin 2009-12-22 14:11
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
MPlayer doesn't seem to be accepting keyboard input. Whenever I launch it, keyboard input goes to whatever window I had open last. If I switch away and switch back, keyboard input goes to the desktop (pressing keys opens contacts).

Has anyone else seen this?

Rushmore 2009-12-22 14:19
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajamils (Post 437498)
downloading codec pack has made my videos work now. Before, I was only able to play them via Mplayer but now they work great in default media player as well.
Is there a new one besides the .1 version? I tried that option first, but the same results I posted in the OP. I saw no improvement at all.

ajamils 2009-12-22 14:28
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 437534)
Is there a new one besides the .1 version? I tried that option first, but the same results I posted in the OP. I saw no improvement at all.
Yup, that's the version. I'm not sure if my videos were already compliant or what but before installing the codec pack, media player always gave a codec error but now it works great.

qole 2009-12-22 18:43
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
jspenguin: keyboard focus is a big problem in the current version of Maemo. You have to really make sure your application follows the rules closely. Obviously, mplayer doesn't do this. Sigh... Yet another thing to get fixed.

jspenguin 2009-12-22 21:32
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
1 Attachment(s)
I have managed to fix the focus problem with a quick patch. I have attached the patch file, and the binary package is available at http://s3.jspenguin.org/mplayer_1.0svn3.1_armel.deb.

qole 2009-12-22 21:58
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
jspenguin: any chance you could also add in the NEON optimisations by shadowjk from this post?

jspenguin 2009-12-22 22:56
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 438228)
jspenguin: any chance you could also add in the NEON optimisations by shadowjk from this post?
No problem... the patches are for different files so they shouldn't interfere. I should have it in a couple of hours. Ideally, this fix should be merged into the upstream.

qole 2009-12-23 00:07
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
It looks like sampppa is going to push these patches into the repository!

He needs people to try files that played slowly before to try again with his new version.

See here!

This is sheer awesomeness.

jspenguin 2009-12-23 00:08
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
I sent an e-mail to the maintainer and he said the patch will be in the next release. In the meantime, there is a .deb available (with NEON optimizations) at http://s3.jspenguin.org/mplayer_1.0s...uin1_armel.deb

Alex Atkin UK 2009-12-23 12:48
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Is 1.0svn20091221-1 that I just got updated from the repo the same version as this?

If so it would have been nice if the first line returned when running mplayer also mentioned any patches such as NEON optimisations so you can easily tell.

Rushmore 2009-12-23 13:16
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 438973)
Is 1.0svn20091221-1 that I just got updated from the repo the same version as this?

If so it would have been nice if the first line returned when running mplayer also mentioned any patches such as NEON optimisations so you can easily tell.
I do not think so, unless the same version number was used to add the patch. I updated to 1221-1 hours before the patch discussion took place. Unless there was a lag in that discussion in relation to a patch.

jakiman 2009-12-30 21:38
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspenguin (Post 438388)
I sent an e-mail to the maintainer and he said the patch will be in the next release. In the meantime, there is a .deb available (with NEON optimizations) at http://s3.jspenguin.org/mplayer_1.0s...uin1_armel.deb
I now see 1.0svn20091221-2 in extras devel.

Is this the NEON patched version? or older? Newer? :confused:

Rushmore 2009-12-31 21:43
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 447182)
I now see 1.0svn20091221-2 in extras devel.

Is this the NEON patched version? or older? Newer? :confused:

It is new in regards to being a new file, since 1221-1 was the previous file. Not used 1221-2 enough yet to tell a there is a difference. I have been juggling between three N900's in the past two weeks.

Bijiont 2010-01-01 09:38
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 448368)
It is new in regards to being a new file, since 1221-1 was the previous file. Not used 1221-2 enough yet to tell a there is a difference. I have been juggling between three N900's in the past two weeks.
I can't say that I have been juggling between 3 N900's :eek: but I haven't really noticed anything different from 1221-1 and 1221-2. I did notice that 1221-2 is a 9.46Mb file possibly better optimization than 1221-1? I don't recall what the file size was on 1221-1.

jakiman 2010-01-06 01:47
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
I now see 1.0svn20091221-3 available in the application manager.
Where can I actually see the changelog?

Bijiont 2010-01-06 09:58
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 454973)
I now see 1.0svn20091221-3 available in the application manager.
Where can I actually see the changelog?
Let me do a fast FIND and see if I can locate it. I imagine there has to be a changelog. I am at work however so give me a few minutes and let me see what I can dig up (unless someone beats me to it obviously)

sampppa 2010-01-06 10:20
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Hey

mplayer (1.0svn20091221-3) unstable; urgency=low

* set _HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB property

-- Sampo Savola <samposav@paju.oulu.fi> Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:34:06 +0200

mplayer (1.0svn20091221-2) unstable; urgency=low

* added patch for fixing keyboard focus issue
* set _HILDON_NON_COMPOSITED_WINDOW property
* added patch for allowing playing in silent mode
-- Sampo Savola <samposav@paju.oulu.fi> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:37:49 +0200

mplayer (1.0svn20091221-1) unstable; urgency=low

* NEON optimizations

-- Sampo Savola <samposav@paju.oulu.fi> Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:16:51 +0200

Thanx qwerty12 for help!

//Sampo

Bijiont 2010-01-06 10:40
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
The changelog is located in /home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/mplayer/

You should be able to find it there pretty easy.

jukey 2010-01-06 14:23
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bijiont (Post 455336)
The changelog is located in /home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/mplayer/

You should be able to find it there pretty easy.
Thet's wrong because the docs are purged by a script during the installation (for every application). That's a mechanism to save memory from the pre-optification time.

Is this worth filing a bug? If the doc directory isn't at the small root partition purging is obsolete isn't it?

Ciao jukey

Bijiont 2010-01-07 01:56
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jukey (Post 455558)
Thet's wrong because the docs are purged by a script during the installation (for every application). That's a mechanism to save memory from the pre-optification time.

Is this worth filing a bug? If the doc directory isn't at the small root partition purging is obsolete isn't it?

Ciao jukey
Sorry but you are wrong. ( I say this politely )

The log file is located in the directory which I spoke of in a .gz format. If you go to that directory and do the following;
gzip -d changelog.Debian.gz

Then do a;

mv changelog.Debian changelog.txt
( I know you can vi / vim the .Debian however I have a tendency to mv to a .txt, just a personal thing )

then;

vi changelog.txt
(Using cat borks the viewing in my opinion)

Confirmed last update in this is for 1.0svn20091221-3 and goes back as far as the original mplayer updates (0.18-1 on Monday June 25th 2001.). If this isn't in fact a changelog then what would you call it?

jukey 2010-01-07 05:33
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Code:
Nokia-N900-51-1:~# ls -la /home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/
drwxr-xr-x    2 root    root        4096 Jan  6 17:13 .
drwxrwxr-x  21 root    root        4096 Jan  6 17:13 ..
-rw-r--r--    1 root    root          19 Jan  6 17:13 README
Nokia-N900-51-1:~# cat /home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/README
Purged by docpurge
Nokia-N900-51-1:~#
There is no content in the directory you wrote. ;)

Bijiont 2010-01-07 08:11
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Not sure how you can say "there is no content" because I am looking right at it. Should I take a video and upload it to youtube for you to see what I am looking at?

Here is what I have on my N900 with the latest install of Mplayer via Extras-Devel

Code:
$ cd /home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/mplayer/
/home/opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/mplayer $ ls -l
-rw-r--r--  1  root  root  1001  Dec  21  02:27  README
-rw-r--r--  1  root  root  519  Dec  21  02:27  README.Debian
-rw-r--r--  1  root  root  2012  Jan  6  20:58  changelog.Debian.gz
-rw-r--r--  1  root  root  292  Dec  21  02:27  copyright
-rw-r--r--  1  root  root  110  Dec  21  02:27  default.css
drwxr-xr-x  2  root  root  4096  Jan  6  05:02  examples
drwxr-xr-x  2  root  root  4096  Jan  6  05:02  tech
drwxr-xr-x  2  root  root  4096  Jan  6  05:02  xml
You running the most current version of mplayer?

**Doing a complete uninstall and reinstall to verify those items are still there.

Just did a complete uninstall and re-install and the items are all there. This is of the latest -3 version of mplayer.

Screenshot
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1...0010704321.png

jukey 2010-01-07 11:46
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bijiont (Post 456883)
Not sure how you can say "there is no content"
You running the most current version of mplayer?
I'm installed the last package from extras-devel: 1.0svn20091221-3

Maybe it's the firmware? I'm running the pre released one: 2.2009.51-1

What is the version of your firmware?

But anyway... I saw that the author is posting the changelog also in this thread so I can have a look for changes there. :)

Bijiont 2010-01-07 14:28
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Hmm could be firmware, I haven't done the .51-1

Yup I agree at the end of the day it doesn't really matter providing we have the changelog information :D I just prefer the local changelog files if they are available in exchange for the 4kb of space loss.

Just strange that two identical installs of mplayer are showing a different structure. It could also be that the release firmware doesn't install as clean as .51-1 :confused:

sampppa 2010-01-08 17:45
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Hey

mplayer_1.0svn20091221-4 is now in the extras-testing:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...svn20091221-4/


Test and vote it please


Thanx

Sampo

Bijiont 2010-01-09 22:41
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
I am still seeing the change log for some reason. Not sure if that is by design or my firmware is the issue (.42-11.002)

And if anyone was curious it says for -4 just a Changed package description :D

sampppa 2010-01-10 01:46
Re: Why is Mplayer not the default player for the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bijiont (Post 461726)
And if anyone was curious it says for -4 just a Changed package description :D
After some discussion description got changed.. :)


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