OVI Maps 3.01 on n900
 

Hi,

Does anyone know how to install the OVI Maps 3.01 on nokia n900? I tried using a Map Loader on windows 7 but it does not reconize my phone at all.

Regards,

RR

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Ovi Maps 3 is Symbian app. Doesn't work on N900.

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All i know is that the current OVI map shipped with the device is basically useless and i hope an update is coming soon :(

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Indeed. I mean you can't even get the thing to scroll the map following your path unless you already plotted a route to somewhere. That's plain silly.

Also, why is it when I choose sattelite view it doesn't actually show me the sattelite view? Not to mention how cyptic the whole interface is, I have no idea what the bloody icons mean its so counter-intuitive.

There is not a single good thing I have to say about it which is insane.

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I only see satellite imagery once I zoom out several levels. I believe that the satellite imagery is very limited. Perhaps they will acquire better data in the future.

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Is it possible that with the new Qt version that PR1.2 brings us, ovi can be ported mroe easily to maemo? maybe they're already working on it right now.

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I would like to give you Sherlock Holmes award for this statement :D

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Just speculating about ovi maps, version 1.00 isn't any good and free voice guided navigation is not a small deal to many users here. Symbian already got version 3.02 or so. The disabled children of mother Nokia always get more attention than the bright ones, you know what I mean.

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So now we have PR1.2 and the Ovi maps are still pretty crap, especially when offline, what are we to do now?

We have the top of the range Nokia phone, we want the latest Ovi Maps 3 please!

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jes please!!!!!!!!!!

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You realize that the number is simply a matter of different Operating Systems, right? If Nokia gives us every functionality from Symbian's Ovi Maps 3.01, or whatever, we will "still" be at Ovi Maps 2.0.

And if you're unhappy with PR1.2's Ovi Maps (I'm more than delighted, the UI and speed is much faster) grab Mappero from extras-testing. No instabilities I've seen so far.

Just plot a route, download the relevant maps (in the application itself), and go. Turn-by-Turn directions as well as portrait mode. Spoken directions are coming soon (right now it uses flite, which is unmaintained, but the developer has been looking into espeak.)

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dont waste your breath, if Nokia does not annouce it Nokia aint giving it - as pointed out by many here they dont even read these forums officially

if you want a phone WITH gps WITH turn by turn, either buy sygic OR sell this phone and get another. end of story

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You mean voice guided nav because we have turn by turn nav

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any news on OVI maps 3 for N900?

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Theminstalled version is a total POS and an insult from nokia.

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The best we can do right now is wait for that in PR1.3 or until MeeGo is ported to N900. But I don't see that coming or any news until later end of October this year. Nokia hasn't finished with Maemo5 but already cutting down on fixing it. Most of difficult to fix bugs are marked as Won't Fix. Camera broken even more than PR1.1 and Nokia advertised the camera as capable of sequence snapshots as a feature but it's not yet exist.

So just be patience and live the moment.

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Maps are annoying specially that functionality we want is already there. At the end of the day Ovi map is able to display turn by turn just not when you driving. It's able to recalculate....you just have to go back and as a starting point chose again your gps position...was it really so hard to code it, or was it more convenient for Sygic.

Sorry
I don't want to start another complaining thread....
back to your question.

If you need navigation you can
- buy Sygic (It's OK although if you're not in a hurry wait for version 10, we don't know when it will show up)
- use Mappero. Works with voice navigation. If you have data plan go for it otherwise you have to pre download all the maps at home or when you connected to wifi
- Navit is an option...if you like play with cli a little bit

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Ovi Maps 1.01 is included into PR 1.2 update

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i think im the only person who like ovi maps since pr 1.2, it has help me on many journeys

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I like it too.

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Hi Se23,
Please describe how you use Ovi Maps included with PR1.2 to make it usable.

I've found I can plan a route and it displays a list of directions on the screen.
However, this list remains static, it doesn't update while moving, even after passing each way point.

If I close the list, it shows where I am on the route with a line showing where I'm supposed to go, but does not pop up the next direction that's coming up.

Is this how you use it or am I missing something ?
Thanks.

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Yeah, there is no turn-by-turn navigation. Also, the distance and ETA does not update. This should be a small fix to actually make it useful, especially when driving.

Other annoyances, not sure if mentioned earlier, are that you can't keep the map north aligned while centered on GPS location and that you lose your route when the application is closed.

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This is not so easy.
The route calculations are done on Nokia servers, so keeping you updated with current data would mean constantly asking for it over the network.
There is no routing logic in the app itself.

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And why they need to waste data ressources with the connection to there servers when we have a full working GPS inside our N900 i dont get it.. I would understand if they would provide A-GPS like informations like Traffic Jams , Weather and some other useful informations but they dont..

So they could use GPS only and anybody would be happy.

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Maps servers are needed for:
- location searching
- route computation
- required map images delivery

Please keep in mind, that Ovi Maps was designed for low-end Symbian phones that:
- have not enough storage to hold the whole maps data
- have not enough computing power to do the routing
- have not enough RAM to effectively search through millions of location and POI data

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...just to verify If I am driving and I go off the track then all I have to do is go back to chosing starting point (current gps location is already selected) and hit OK, and map recalculate new route WITHOUT internet connection....so I think recalculation is already in the soft.

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That's right, the routing logic is in the phone & works fine offline. It's just the search function that requires nokia servers.

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Might be something added with PR1.2

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nope, did work with 1.1 as well.
but you couldn't select locations from contacts and you couldn't search locations by name (as is today). If you selected location (start or end) by map it would calculate in 1.1 as well

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I've never managed to do any routing without Internet connection.
But that's not really a proof - if you say so, I will believe so. :)

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ladies & gentlemen, fasten your seat belts.. ;)
this is just a huge speculation... BUT on todays Nok Conversations Blog there is a hint of some sort:

Now since I believe Nokia is working on a QT maps application and the N900 has QT widely deployed we might (add my 10% hope) receive the new Nokia Maps with turn by turn....

Why the speculation? Well Nokia did tell us that they are working on it

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I had enough of OVI maps and bought Sygic. Of course probably I did that JUST before free OVI navigation is released....murphy's law as usual....

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This is not true... route calculations are done in the software.

I've just returned from a holiday in Europe, using the maps functionality without an internet connection (they were preloaded before I left). It does get annoying, as it repeatedly asks for a connection, but I just kept denying it.

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We already figured out that network is required if you want to find a place, so this is why I had an impression that it is required for routing.

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Yeah, that's pretty annoying - there seems to be no POI data in the maps when you upload them. All of the road names are stored though.

We were searching for camping sites. We had a camp-site guide book, and a road atlas. I would take the GPS coordinate of the site, calculate it's position on the map, and then (manually) search for the nearest road in Ovi Maps based on the mark in the atlas.

It actually got us out of quite a few tricky situations, even managing to route through Geneva in Switzerland, and helping us navigate avoiding the toll-roads!

The major pain is the lack of automatic recalculation - Every time we took a slightly wrong turn, we'd have to pull-over and search for the destination again, forcing it to recalculate. When it worked, though, the 3D-style view and red-dot follow was helpful.

The battery life sucked, though. I had to have it running on charge with an inverter in the car. It got very, very hot after 30 mins - must be all of the rendering!

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It seems that's happening with any GPS-using app... if battery lasts more than 30-60 minutes when actively using GPS you're lucky.

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And there is another caveat - if you run a very CPU hungry app with backlight on, even the socket charger does not provide enough power to keep the battery from dying. ;)

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Have you actually used Symbian phones before? I have an E71, I downloaded maps for the whole world ~7GB and stuffed it onto an 8GB card. Everything works fine offline - routing AND searching through POI - no internet connection required.

Can't say the same for maemo ovi maps. It sucks. Search doesn't work even when online - keep getting "Search is not available right now" message all the time.

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That's nice you have a high-end Symbian phone.

I just said Ovi Maps was designed to run on the low-end Symbian phones too.
Later it was upgraded for the high-end ones, but we're stuck with Ovi Maps 1.x on Maemo.