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Jerome 2006-12-22 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeman
So, if they just exam the packet, there is absolutely no way they would know if the data was requested from my 6620 or 770.
Can somebody tell me how this work?

Normally, your phone is not set up to use the same "access point" than the 770. Look in your GPRS/Data settings. That's how it works.

c_legaspi 2006-12-23 00:48

mine does using cingular media net. only way i figure the way they know is the amount of data being transfered

Luna 2006-12-24 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome
Normally, your phone is not set up to use the same "access point" than the 770. Look in your GPRS/Data settings. That's how it works.

The newer phones (wm5 aku 3 smartpones) no longer have Dun and instead use usb or bt pan for tethering thru internet connection sharing. This should mean tthe same AP should be used. Tethering is sweet with my new blackjack but the 3g is rough on battery life. Lately, ive been forcing my phone to edge only an since it is only about 80kbps less on mspeed test than the new high speed on the 770 via bt, i might keep it that way

penguinbait 2006-12-24 06:27

Tmobile Data Plans
 
I will try this but I am waiting for my 770 to come back from repair. I canceled my data plan when I sent in my 770 so it will be a good test.

Internet access at Tmobile is 29.99, the sidekick data plan is 20$. If you log in to the my-tmobile web page you can set your phone as a sidekick, then you can go to acount and change to add the sidekick data plan. Do they have a way to know your not using a sidekick? Would this work as a normal data plan. Anyone else tried this?

My first one year contract with tmobile is up in January, I loathe tmobile, Any suggestions on carriers Cingular or Verizon or Sprint? Need family plan 3 phones + internet.

Jerome 2006-12-24 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luna
The newer phones (wm5 aku 3 smartpones) no longer have Dun and instead use usb or bt pan for tethering thru internet connection sharing. This should mean tthe same AP should be used.


That is not the way it works on GPRS or UMTS service. Each connection defines what is called an "APN". For example, on Vodafone Germany I need to use "web.vodafone.de" to access the Internet while the phone comes set up to "wap.vodafone.de" to access Vodafone internal services.

Arjun 2006-12-24 13:46

Once again I have been able to use my Nokia 770 + Nokia 6682 to get to the Internet. This is with a Basic Plus Plan from T-Mobile. I do not have a Data Plan of any kind whatsoever. About 15 minutes ago, I tested my mobile connection speed at '' testmy.net '' and clocked a decent 123 Kbps down and 74 Kbps up. This is so much better then the connection speed using the Nokia 3650. To get to the Internet with this basic plan, I simply mucked around and deleted the Proxy Server name and the Proxy Port Number from the Advanced Connectivity Settings of the Nokia 770. :) :D ;)

Merry Christmas to you all.

penguinbait 2006-12-24 16:41

According to the scriptural description of the brahmand the entire earth planet is called Bharatvarsh, but particularly the area of the continent that lies south of the Himalayas is called Bharatvarsh. It is also called Aryavart. The inhabitants of Aryavart are called the Aryans as referred to in the Rigved. Thus, the words Bhartiya or Aryans were both used for the inhabitants of Bharatvarsh or Aryavart, however, the words Bhartiya and Bharatvarsh were more popular

Ajun which are you referring to as your location? Where are you in the USA?

Arjun I also have a 770 plus 6682, the funny thing I think the 770 is more stable than that phone. Anyway I have used Tmobile data plan, the 5.99 plan, no plan. I use to be able to have no plan, and use getmorespeed.voicestream.com 8080, and get online (proxy). Then that stopped working. I now use the Tmobile 5.99 plan, with the 216.155.165.50 proxy. I can get online and surf and use Maemo-mapper.


So are you saying you have no plan, no tzones and you can get online with no proxy?

Luna 2006-12-24 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome
That is not the way it works on GPRS or UMTS service. Each connection defines what is called an "APN". For example, on Vodafone Germany I need to use "web.vodafone.de" to access the Internet while the phone comes set up to "wap.vodafone.de" to access Vodafone internal services.


Given the newness of the network here, I won't argue about it. However, it appears that only one ap (wap.cingular.??? and isp.cingular.??? depending on the plan the is set as default on the phone and connection pooling is used instead. In this case EDGE and UTMS (HSDPA actually)

Arjun 2006-12-25 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait
According to the scriptural description of the brahmand the entire earth planet is called Bharatvarsh, but particularly the area of the continent that lies south of the Himalayas is called Bharatvarsh. It is also called Aryavart. The inhabitants of Aryavart are called the Aryans as referred to in the Rigved. Thus, the words Bhartiya or Aryans were both used for the inhabitants of Bharatvarsh or Aryavart, however, the words Bhartiya and Bharatvarsh were more popular

Ajun which are you referring to as your location? Where are you in the USA?

Arjun I also have a 770 plus 6682, the funny thing I think the 770 is more stable than that phone. Anyway I have used Tmobile data plan, the 5.99 plan, no plan. I use to be able to have no plan, and use getmorespeed.voicestream.com 8080, and get online (proxy). Then that stopped working. I now use the Tmobile 5.99 plan, with the 216.155.165.50 proxy. I can get online and surf and use Maemo-mapper.


So are you saying you have no plan, no tzones and you can get online with no proxy?


BharatVarsha, the Land of the King Bharata, the brother of Lord Rama, the final incarnation of Lord Vishnu, the Redeemer. BharatVarsha, the land of the great Hindu people as well. So, Yes the land lying South of the great Himalayas is the land of my origin and I am a Bharatiya. Right now I am in North Eastern USA.

But I sure am not a Hindu. :)

:D

Now, the plan that I have is the ' basic of the basic ', Cellular Voice Plan. That is the T-Mobile ' Basic Plus ' Plan ( $29.99 - 300 Minutes, and Weekends Unlimited). So that total with Taxes comes up to about $ 35+ or so per months ( if I do not yap too much on the phone). I do not have any added ' Data plan ' or ' T-Mobile Internet ' or anything else for that matter.

It is the " getmorespeed.voicestream.com " , Proxy Server name and the Proxy Port number " 8080 ", that I took out from the ' Advanced Connectivity Settings ' of the Nokia 770. I did not input anything else in place of the Proxy Server Address and the Proxy Port Number.


An update ( 9.55 am - 12/27/06) Now I can access my hotmail account and look at my emails without issues. I do not have to do (change the MTU and MRU ) anything specific for this. This is via the Nokia 3650 Phone GPRS.



:) ;)


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