Re: this guy makes some good points
 

Hey, look, there's a troll now!

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

Oh, let the poor guy be. Surely anyone could confuse CrashandDie with Crashdamage.

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

Please...I resemble that remark...

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

trollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

He lost his last ounce of credibility with the last few lines

"But, there is already a $99 iPhone available and it won't be long until a smartphone (maybe some version of an iPhone) becomes the std handset for most everyone with a new contract, leaving Nokia with classic candybar phones for the third world and our grandparents."

Apparently EVERYWHERE but the U.S.A where Nokia still holds a ginormous market share regardless of apples entry to the market are third world. How's that life expectancy over there guys? I hear it's higher than our wonderful American one. That's totally like sooooo third world.

I also enjoy he writes this and how wonderful the iPhone is on contract, while also writing blog posts about how shitty AT&T's service is and how every NYC user deserves a Femtocell.

What a wonderfully clueless troll.

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

ah, good points indeed!

The software and service sides of the business is most definitely where the future lies, and I believe Nokia is working, and has been for quite some time, towards becoming a service and software company. Just look at everything they're doing, it's all geared towards shifting the company to this side, but sadly a big company does not shift as fast as we might like.

I believe that you are correct in that Nokia does not have the software culture in-house to make the shift fast enough... but where are we posting this again?

What they have done instead is to take two communities (Symbian and maemo) to help them make the change, and while they're at it they're doing some innovative things like open-sourcing what might be part of their core-business in the not too distant future.

Interesting stuff indeed and well worth its own thread probably, but I believe Nokia are addressing the issues quite well, and I believe in some inventive ways.

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

the iphone 3gs is more expensive..


its 160 sterling on 2 year contract
nokia free on 2 year contract

iphone 3gs 32 gig is about 540 on o2 pay as you go
nokia is about 430 pay as you go

i know in us you dont have the same options but...

over the long run- cant you get a cheaper contract with no phone..

all you do on contracts is basically purchase the phone over a credit period and pay for the phone rental on top.


in the uk you can get an ipone for 40 quid a month
or a simplicity 30 day contract for 20 quid a month and pay for the iphone it self. (thereby saving your self 100 pounds in the long term--- 20 times 24 plus 160- 540)

and of course have the added luxury of switching carriers any time you wish..

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

OrangeBox, why don't you reply on my whole post?

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

kopte3, I hope you noticed that I didn't bring up anything under good points that you contest. In other words I agree with your posting 100 percent. You and others have successfully highlighted the bad points.

However this thread is about good points. What I was hoping that once we look at how other people who don't have the Nokia shades on view things. As a business owner I quickly learned that not the 99 percent praise from you customer that counts, but that 1 percent that points out areas of improvements.

This is the only way to progress and to make the N900 even more awesome that it currently is.

Re: this guy makes some good points
 

I think he provides some modestly interesting baseline-consumer perspective, but he clearly doesn't have a deep grasp of the tech platform the N900 brings to the marketplace...his blog name is a little overinflated IMHO. He's no techy.

If this article was written in August, what kind of dumb point did he think he was making with all that Central Park WiFi stat stuff?

He also doesn't understand the Open Source culture. Apple has great software people, sure...but they are tightly locked into Apple's Master Plan for the platform - this is also why the public app approval protocol is so restrictive.

Nokia have changed the paradigm - build a great hardware platform, get a solid OS running on it, flesh it out with some generally useful apps, publish the SDK...and let the OSS community rip.

Apple can't buy that level of participation. That's the secret underlying the linux explosion - something MS and Apple could never match...heck, Apple saw the light and capitalized on FreeBSD!