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aironeous 2010-01-03 11:47

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
I cannot type echo 0 greater than symbol because there is no such symbol on the keyboard. I cannot do it with the virtual keyboard because tapping in xterminal does not bring up vkbrd and no I did not have the keyboard open when I tried it and no I didn't have the little "mouse disabled button" active and yes I tried opening and closing x terminal and trying it again.
ctrl c and ctrl v did not work either. Seems like xterminal won't accept ctrl v.

bsving 2010-01-03 12:20

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 451031)
I cannot type echo 0 greater than symbol because there is no such symbol on the keyboard. I cannot do it with the virtual keyboard because tapping in xterminal does not bring up vkbrd and no I did not have the keyboard open when I tried it and no I didn't have the little "mouse disabled button" active and yes I tried opening and closing x terminal and trying it again.
ctrl c and ctrl v did not work either. Seems like xterminal won't accept ctrl v.

Try pushing the blue arrow then the blue sym (keys far upper/mid left)

mysticrokks 2010-01-03 13:50

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
had 2 reboots yesterday-- reson 32w thing.. 4 since i did the perm fix..


its annoying , its been over 2 weeks but still its npot good .. NOKIA SORT IT OUT ..

anyone else still getting them?

warpstalker 2010-01-04 08:34

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
So I got my third phone now a few days ago and this one hasn't rebooted once!

This is indeed the best phone/computer ever :P

Heman1310 2010-01-04 10:15

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
I got 2 random reboots yesterday and 1 random reboot today, but the issue wasn't "32wd_to" it was " sw_rts". Should I be worried or not?

canabal 2010-01-04 17:23

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Damn, I hope this next FW update fixes it. My warranty is from the US and I live in Canada. I am not sure how I am going to get this replaced.

ZackMorris 2010-01-05 14:33

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Just got my replacement phone in, my last phone would never come out of reboot state, unless I was in R&D mode, but once I exited that, it would start the boot cycle again. I was wondering to avoid this issue altogether should I use the permanent fix mentioned on this thread? I haven't even powered it on yet. Week 51 model though, so it's pretty new.

mysticrokks 2010-01-05 16:39

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
i would see if it reboots or not first zach..

if you get then have you tried powering your n900 through the usb cable to your laptop- this should stop your device rebooting then you can apply the perm fix

ZackMorris 2010-01-05 16:57

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticrokks (Post 454149)
i would see if it reboots or not first zach..

if you get then have you tried powering your n900 through the usb cable to your laptop- this should stop your device rebooting then you can apply the perm fix

So far so good, just imported contacts, merged them etc. Setup the Desktops, so far so good...my other phone was good for 2 and a 1/2 weeks before I got the reboot issue. Im just hoping since its a newer one off the line, hopefully some of the issues have been corrected in the mfg process.

aironeous 2010-01-06 14:32

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bsving (Post 451058)
Try pushing the blue arrow then the blue sym (keys far upper/mid left)

Ok I will try it but I don't see how that will free up virtual keyboard? Do I then close the keyboard and try tapping in x terminal again?

Anyways i think the reboot from 32wd_to issue is causing my vkeyboard to no longer work unless I turn it off and then back on.

Can someone tell all of us:
What should xterminal show after typing in
sudo gainroot
and also
what should xterminal show (I'm getting no feedback from xterminal on this second one) when i type in
echo 0 > /sys/power/enable_off_mode
and am I putting any uneccessary spaces in there?
When I type that in it just eats it without any feedback. I don't know if I have temp disabled watchdog.

gravis86 2010-01-06 15:14

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Typing "sudo gainroot" shows this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/...e4556c10_o.png

mysticrokks 2010-01-06 15:31

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
air

it wont give you any feed back

once you have done the fix echo 0 etc(which if done correctly wont give you feedback so you have 99% successfully implemented it)

type

cat /sys/power/enable_off_mode

if the value underneath shows 0 you have done the fix if it shows 1 you havent

this is only a temp fix so when you reboot/ power off /run out of juice, you will have to do the echo again..

to enable the vitual keypad you press blue arrow then ctrl same time u dont have to shut the keypad.

gravis86 2010-01-12 02:29

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
just thought I'd let you guys know that I have installed the new updated firmware and restored the config file to factory settings. I will be testing to see if I get any reboots.

EDIT: Ughhh, 5 reboots in the last half hour... I guess this firmware doesn't fix the problem. :(

bsving 2010-01-12 19:10

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Please read comment 353 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334

tavellan 2010-01-13 11:48

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
1.2009.44-1 firmware definitely do not fix the bug as said before but there's something you could test after the upgrade. But just if you have seen disabling enable_off_mode to be useful/workaround with 42-11.

Set enable_off_mode , sr_vdd1_autocomp and sr_vdd2_autocomp to 1 in /etc/pmconfig file and reboot. What it means is that then you enable SmartReflex power saving feature.

When SmartReflex is enabled, enable_off_mode (AFAIK off_mode, whether it's enabled or disabled) seems not to have any effect to the random rebooting bug (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334). No random rebooting after doing this which seems to be interesting.

aironeous 2010-01-13 13:44

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
What program do you edit and open up that /etc/pmconfig file with without changing its format or messing it up?

mysticrokks 2010-01-13 14:09

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tavellan (Post 468176)
1.2009.44-1 firmware definitely do not fix the bug as said before but there's something you could test after the upgrade. But just if you have seen disabling enable_off_mode to be useful/workaround with 42-11.

Set enable_off_mode , sr_vdd1_autocomp and sr_vdd2_autocomp to 1 in /etc/pmconfig file and reboot. What it means is that then you enable SmartReflex power saving feature.

When SmartReflex is enabled, enable_off_mode (AFAIK off_mode, whether it's enabled or disabled) seems not to have any effect to the random rebooting bug (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334). No random rebooting after doing this which seems to be interesting.


thanks for that. have you noticed if u get better battery usage thisw way

jerden69 2010-01-13 15:27

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Hi guys I checked my device after it rebooted, it did it just as i finished reading when to check it lol, it had the watchdog problem so I have disabled it permanently but I was wondering will nokia fix this issue? or would it best to return the phone for a new one?

For me that will involve sending it to America and I'm in canada which will take ages! but there is only so long I can wait before a new one is not an option.

Does anyone know if this can or will be fixed soon?

tavellan 2010-01-13 18:59

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Nothing really new. What I have seen (reading posts in bugzilla) is that some people seems to have beta testing version 1.2009.51-1 which will provide the real workaround for this issue. Just have to hope that Nokia will get it out soon with some official announcement/explanation about the bug.

Followed discussions so far, this seems to be a bit trickier problem which is something between the hardware and software... it's very difficult to draw the line and takes time to find out and fix.

You have two options:
1) You can try to wait and survive with these workarounds... this is what I have done and going to do since I am pretty pleased to the device and user experience itself (+ it's open for any kind of hacking)...
2) ...or you can try get replacement, though that might take some time as said. I believe that most of the non-technical skilled customers who are having the bug have done so. Don't know how willing the company or the resellers are to do so but maybe it's quite easy since nobody can't really do anything to fix it. Of course there might be some country specific rules.

If the support people do recommend workarounds (e.g one I posted) or they have fixed it with one, it's not good enough... One worry is that I believe there's also certain possibility that you could get back the brand new device with the same bug...

tavellan 2010-01-13 20:05

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticrokks (Post 468354)
thanks for that. have you noticed if u get better battery usage thisw way

Yes I did, though I haven't measured it. It's not a huge difference in very active daily use (e.g. Web browsing a lot via WiFi and 3G) but the difference is seen in idle times.

egoshin 2010-01-13 20:21

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 468303)
What program do you edit and open up that /etc/pmconfig file with without changing its format or messing it up?

Try PyGTKEditor - it is simple to use.

Start X-Term, copy file to directory -

cp /etc/pmconfig ~/MyDocs/

Then start PyGTKEditor and edit file 'pmconfig' then copy it back

sudo gainroot
cp ~/MyDocs/pmconfig /etc/pmconfig

(You should install package 'rootsh' for last 2 steps).

cpitchford 2010-01-13 20:28

Re: Rebooting quick-fix
 
I've been helping people on the Nokia discussion forum apply this patch to their devices..

Details are:

Open this link on your phone
http://chris.intrepid.cx/N900/fix

Click on the first link.. select open and proceed with the installation

Click on the second link.. select save, save it in the documents folder on your phone..

Open an x terminal and run:

sudo gainroot
sh MyDocs/.documents/fixpm.sh enable

To remove the fix, replace enable with disable.. Remember, the commands are case sensitive..

This is handy for those not familar with the likes of vi and don't like long sed command lines :)

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