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By the way: someone above was saying they couldn't get to the Sidekick plan FROM THEIR PHONE, as if that was the end.

1. I can get to the Sidekick plan from my N900.

2. You don't have to change plans from the phone anyway. Just use a computer. I'm in Ubuntu right now, it works fine; I'm sure it would work fine from Windows 7 too.

Sorry that things can get a bit confusing in Prepaid land. That's why we don't have to pay the big bucks. Besides, I think being cheap is fun!

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Croman: That's pretty much correct. However, using Tor is easier than using proxies--it just works. But it can be slow.

But the big advantage of using Sidekick is that on the days you AREN'T using the Internet from Tmobile (because you are using your home wireless, for example), you can switch to other plans that aren't $1 a day like the Sidekick plan is. In other words, if you play your cards right, you can pay $1 on the days you use the Internet from Tmobile and $0 or almost $0 on the days that you aren't using the Internet from Tmobile.

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I can't see the Sidekick plan either, be it on my desktop on on the phone:

http://ubuntuone.com/p/Ee3/

If it matters I'm using Chromium on Ubuntu Lucid here, but I get the same results with MicroB on the phone.

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

yeah, I get the same, It used to be there but it's not anymore. I can't change to sidekick anymore...

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

get simple mobile if you are in the USA.

$60 unlimited prepay, nation-wide, on t-mo network and even allows for 3g access.

no contract.

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That may be a good deal for some, keeping in mind that "unlimited" is 1000 MB in this case, but if you weren't using more than 3 hours of voice minutes per month while on the Sidekick plan, there's a price gap there. Much of this thread has been focused on how to use Sidekick only when necessary too, which widens that gap further.

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

Did anyone else try looking into this? I was wondering for a while if I could get it working, so I grabbed my T-Mobile pre-paid SIM, tethered my laptop to the N900, connected through the regular epc.tmobile.com APN, and used User Agent Switcher with a cheap Samsung T-Mobile phone UA (SAMSUNG-SGH-T239/T239UVIC6 NetFront/3.4 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) on my computer.

http://imgur.com/p77Ex.png

Clicked subscribe, and web worked fine, if not a little slow.

With my theory (they only scan the UA) proven, I tried browsing on my N900. Seems they noticed the user agent switch and "cancelled" the plan. No problems, I used an about:config preference to set the Samsung UA on MicroB.

http://imgur.com/oeKle.png

Now I just get this, no matter where I browse to when using the T-Mobile access point. Shouldn't MicroB display xhtml WAP pages normally? I tried installing wmlbrowser on MicroB, but nothing changed.

So my questions are:
Anyone got any further than I did messing with this? Is my MicroB borked? And if so, how do I fix it? :P (removing the useragent pref fixes it, but then it doesn't offer the plan anymore)

(if any T-Mobile people are reading this: I know I'm probably breaking a couple TOS sections, sorry! I promise not to abuse it!)

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

Try adding

application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml=hildon-browser.desktop

to /usr/share/applications/defaults.list

Let us know if this works.

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Interesting. I STILL have Sidekick as an option. I am using Chrome, the Windows version.

The page I am on is

https://my.t-mobile.com/Plan/Prepaid/Default.aspx

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What I am currently doing is paying for the $15 a month plan (on the little prepaid table) and am signed up for the ipv6 beta test (you can probably sign up for it too -- do a power search for ipv6 to find the thread explaining how).

This gives me blazingly fast internet access for $15 a month.

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I was out of the USA for a week and had switched from the sidekick plan. When I came back (Sept. 15), I went to my.t-mobile and the sidekick option was gone. Now there are only two prepaid plans.

I ordered a sim from Simple Mobile and will try the $50 per month option (voice, text and 100mb of data). So much for t-mobile in the US.

When I was in England (London), I went to a nearby t-mobile store. The sim was free and for 10 pounds (~$16) I was able to get Internet access, voice and text. I was also able to make incredibly cheap calls back to the US (pennies per minute). I was there 7 full days and still had about 3 pounds left. Because when I got the sim, I had added 10 pounds for service on a weekday, when the weekend arrived I was given (automatically) an extra 10 pounds worth of time. I couldn't use all of the service I had during the trip and the Internet access was fast. Why can't it be this easy in the US???

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At my.t-mobile, the sidekick option no longer appears for me. As explained in a related post, I had switched off sidekick for a few days and when I tried to switch back, it was gone.

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Could you explain where this $15 a month plan is? I find the t-mobile site incredibly useless. My my.t-mobile web page no longer gives me sidekick as a prepaid plan option. There are only two options now. I have not been able to find any really useful information on exactly what prepaid plans are available. Is the $15 plan a "flexpay" plan of some kind? The web pages never give you the opportunity to activate a new plan.

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OK, I could not see sidekick any longer. So I paid for a Simple Mobile $50 plan + sim.

Maybe I signed up too soon. I called t-mobile 611 a few minutes ago (it took forever to get thru to prepaid). I explained I could not switch to sidekick and she switched it for me. Now I have my Internet access back. At least so far it seems to work. I'm able to see web pages, login to my delta airlines account, etc.

However, when I look at the change plan website, no plans show up! The box is entirely empty.

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

Now the t-mobile web site shows the correct plan (sidekick) and all three plans including sidekick show up. Although now I'm not sure I want to switch out of sidekick. Internet access seems to work as before.

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I use the portal from this page and can access almost every site through the proxies, not just the T-zones one. And it's unlimited for prepaid customer, so I'm quite happy about it :).

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Yesterday they started offering some plans for prepaid plans. I'm using the $1.50 unlimited day pass plan. I can access pretty much anything, even stuff that didn't work with the Sidekick plan, like e-mail and maps. Skype and Gtalk work too.

I have my APN set to internet2.voicestream.com. Then open a web page; any non-WAP page should work. You'll be rounted to a page that will let you buy the day pass. Once you go through the prompts and hit Accept, you should have working internet for the day.

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I keep the N900 on Sidekick and almost everything works including e-mail and all web pages. What doesn't work includes updating/installing applications and mail for exchange (which I use to sync my google calendar). I can live without that so I think I get my money's worth for $30 per month (on average) total. Text messages are free. I don't remember what phone calls cost (either 10 or 15 cents per minute).

When I was in London in September I put in a UK t-mobile sim. It was cheap (~$16) and I had unlimited Internet. The week I was there I could not make enough phone calls (including back to the US) to use up all the credit. Plus I received another $16 worth of credit when the weekend came. I almost regretted coming home to the US. I just went to the near-by t-mobile store - the sim was FREE, they asked no questions (although they offered to put in the sim). If you pay 10 pounds on a week day, you get another 10 pounds worth over the weekend (which must be used on Saturday and Sunday and then disappears). Why can't it be that simple and cheap here in the US?

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BTW, I'm using hiptop.t-mobile.com as the access point name.

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FYI:
http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=8077
"T-Mobile introduced a new Web Day Pass option for its prepaid users this week. It provides 24 hours of unlimited data access for $1.49. [...]T-Mobile mentions a 30 MB daily soft cap on the Terms and Conditions page that you click though when activating a DayPass. After 30 MB, download speed is supposed to be slowed. I tested that by downloading over 200 MB and I don't seem to have encountered the cap. Even after 200 MB I was getting speeds in the 300-500 kbit/s range. While that's slower than the best speed (1859 kbit/s) I saw, it's still 3G performance."

I got this working on the new APN, epc.tmobile.com , with the icon for network speed showing "3.5G". I don't know about others.

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Awesome!! I'd like to kown step by step how to setup APN....mine seems like stucking with 2G and it dosen't go anywhere to access online. BTW, am using N900 with $100 Gold Rewards pay as you go sim.

Thanks in advance!

DH

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

resurrecting this old thread for a bit of reassurance ... I did the prepaid SIM + sidekick + proxy/Tor thing last summer on a trip to USA and it was all good. Am visiting again shortly, and I had a look on the T-Mo website and saw this new $1.49 day web pass.

So, it sounds like I can buy a new prepaid SIM in a T-Mo store on the most basic PAYG plan, whack on say $10 in credit, and then pay $1.49/day for each of the 5 days I'll be in NY in order to get full web access with enough left over for the odd voice call & text?

The only thing I'm not clear about is whether this is now "legit" on an N900 (i.e. a smartphone) or if the day web pass is supposed to be for dumbphones only. I don't really care either way (as I'm sure it'll work regardless) but I'd like clarity so I know whether I can take my N900 into the store and pop in the SIM immediately - or whether I should just buy the sim and take it aweay to install later (if the plan is not intended for smartphones). There's nothing I can see on the website that would preclude using the web day pass for a smartphone ... can any one advise?

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

@ Pigro to make it short... yes it works.

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Excellent, I'm happier using a genuine tarrif with a fair price for its intended purpose - much easier than jumping through hoops to hack cost effective short term web access!

Thanks for the feedback :-)

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Buck49/day IS for Smartphones. What makes Dumbphones dumb is not being capable of using such access.

However, the question is if N900 is considered a Smartphone or the next data-hungry category like those two other lame phone types out there. I would not take my N900 to a t-mobile store to get a SIM. Either buy from retailers or jump through that very easy hoop.

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sorry - you suggesting that the plan is only meant for iPhone/Android, and telling them I will be popping the sim in my n900 would cause problems? I don't intend to advertise the fact either way, but last year I understood the need for subterfuge - now, it seems superfluous?

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1) Do as you what you are doing to get web access from your n900.

2) tether to your netbook/laptop as follow:

- install ovi suite 3.1
on your netbook; connect n900 with USB/BT, ovi suite>tool>internet access>GPRS, tada, you now surfing the web with your n900! Absolutely no parameter settings! All other settings, 3G, tmob, ATnT what nots wont work. None of them work. Only GPRS works.

Oh sure, if you know how to tweak your netbook and n900, feel free to hack it wihout using ovi suite. I report it here as it seemed way too easy. I have tried to tether n810 with PC by brute force in the early days and it is not simple.

enjoy,

I agree it is 'better' to buy your own sim card and activate by yourself. Just follow instructions on the card. No need, and better not, to deal to CSR.

bun

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Not planning to tether, just use data on n900. i have no intention (or need) to discuss anything with the in-store staff, but forewarned is forearmed re. whether it is intended for smartphone use. I got very good 3G service on T-mo last year, I am expecting the same on this plan unless you know different?

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

Just tell them you'll be using it with "my Nokia phone". For most stores, the conversation will end there, as they will assume you have a dumb phone. If the sales person is semi-smart, they may ask if it's an N-guage, which of course the N900 is not. :P

In any case, enjoy T-Mobil while you can. If the merger goes trough as planned with AT&T, this time next year you won't have the option of using anything nearly this cost effective in the US. (And that's coming from a current US AT&T customer...)

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Bought SIM yesterday, but no web day pass seems to be available? SIM is fine for voice calls and a connection "t-mobile internet" with the epc.tmobile.com APN (blank user/password) When I select that connection I get 3.5G and the data symbol, but when I open a browser window I don't get offered the web day pass - I get nothing at all, just a blank window. i've registered the SIM at myt-mobile.com, but there is nothing configurable on the prepaid plah that i can see. i have plenty of credit too. anyone got any ideas?

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Web day passes have been messed up for a while, but if you go directly to m.web2go.com in the browser, and then go to My Account, you should get an option to buy a day pass.

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I did go to m.web2go.com, and found the page for web day pass - but when I tried to subscribe nothing happened (no confirmation & no debit from my credit; no data access from phone). I spoke to the t-mo store where zi bouight the SIM and they said there were a few phones (inc. androids) which were doing this & were just "incompatible".

but i don't understand how my n900 is affected when other forum users are OK? could browser agent be the problem?

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Try setting your APN to internet2.voicestream.com

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By the way, my N900 started to act out too. I usually had no problem to purchase the day pass, but now after clicking the green "Subscribe" button nothing happens.

Tried it for epc.tmobile.com and internet2.voicestram.com. No success, this is weird as I am not aware that I changed anything.

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http://m.web2go.com/myaccount/hourpasssubscribe.do

Just click the above link, only once. That will cost you $1.49 from your account
and you should see something like that, "Thank you for buying the daypass...." Cant remember exactly, but you should see that if you are successful in purchase

bun

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Would someone please explain when to use "epc.tmobile.com' and "internet2.voicestram.com"?

Thanks!

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Thanks, but does not work either:

Error 500--Internal Server Error
From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol--HTTP/1.1:
10.5.1.500 Internal Server Error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.

Re: Does the n900 work well with T-mobile Prepaid
 

Is your cellphone hooked up? did you leave user/password blank? Try to use the 'other' APC.

tmob does not sell daypass any more, it is now call hourpass, and from .99 to 1.49; they changed the title but not the calling programming. Anyhow the link works for me, up to 2 wks ago. I have moved and tmob is NOT available here, cant check for you.

bun

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A variation of the link posted above worked for me on a Nexus S:
(using this link from your phone will cost you $1.50)

http://wap.t-zones.com/myaccount/hourpasssubscribe.do

resulted in a message confirming the subscription and a working access to the web (at least I was able to do a new search on google).
I do not know yet whether that will work for 1 hour or one day. We will see.

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Thanks...your link below is surely work. Great find!
my N900 has been down without webdaypass in two weeks.