maemo.org - Talk - Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?

Newsflash!! They are doing so on their platform and not the web. Plus, they possibly can't control the media on the internet because of H.264 now, can they?

Speaking of newsflashes, you've missed some.

By deliberately excluding Flash from its ecosystem, Apple is challenging online media publishers who depend heavily on Flash-- and their numbers are legion.

So, yes, Apple is seeking to control the web... or at least, multimedia aspects. You might want to look into how Apple benefits from H.264 deployment.

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Originally Posted by un-named_user (Post 684686)

Complaining about Apple making choices for you as a bad thing when you knowingly buy their products, is the same as that silly thread complaining about the N900 letting people install from Extras-devel.

Strawman. I don't buy Apple products. But I reserve every right to express my opinions and objective assessments about their approach to business.

Dunsurfin

2010-05-28 17:06

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 686109)

Why Why Why

does everyone want Flash 10 ???????????

The N900 is an "open platform"

why do we want bloated, buggy closed proprietary code ??

we should keep the N900 totally open and banish this rubbish and get Nokia to open up its proprietary code.

if we add any more closed code we may as well just go and buy iphones.

but wait, didnt apple banish flash as its too buggy and closed ?

Not so much want, but need. I purchased the N900 to use as a netbook replacement. The size of the device may make some applications less easy to use (small keyboard, etc.), but I can take it with me pretty much everywhere.

There are certain websites that have content only available as Flash 10. Without Flash 10 support, my N900 is less useful.

It is easy to get Adobe and Nokia to put Flash 10 on the N900 than to get the sites to drop Flash.

I don't like having to use Flash, but I hate not being able to use Flash when I need to. Full Flash support was how the N900 was marketed - I would like Flash 10.1 support now.

slartibartfass

2010-05-28 17:09

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

What is flash 10.1 and why does everyone make such a rumor about it?

ossipena

2010-05-28 17:13

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by slartibartfass (Post 686132)

What is flash 10.1 and why does everyone make such a rumor about it?

you'll find out after every website has abandoned flash 9...

and gl accelerated video gets my vote.

ysss	2010-05-28 17:17

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 686109)

Because "being able to eat junkfood" is a big part of having freedom...

MiK546

2010-05-28 17:22

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

Well, androids browser is based on WebKit, so maybe it would be possible to still get Androids Flash 10.1 working on Tear and/or Midori.

stlpaul

2010-05-28 17:24

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by MiK546 (Post 686164)

Well, androids browser is based on WebKit, so maybe it would be possible to still get Androids Flash 10.1 working on Tear and/or Midori.

Webkit supports netscape plug-in API (in addition to webkit plugin format), so it's still at least possible that they might use the NSAPI plug-in...

geneven

2010-05-28 17:35

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by Spotfist (Post 684979)

If in say 3-6 months time most websites have updated to flash 10.1, would it also not be right to assume that Nokia would no longer be able to sell the n900? Surely you can't sell a smart phone that doesn't work?

Another question is, how does the lack of flash effect our contracts with Nokia? when I purchased my phone I wanted a "full" web experience and thats why I got the n900, if in 3 months time that is no longer possable then where do I stand as an EU citizen? Surely I can claim on the fact that a service was promised and then removed within x months?

I'm sorry you aren't in the US; I would enjoy your legal battles to prove that you didn't get the "full" experience. I hope you have fun in Europe with the same. Personally, I don't think you have a case.

Maemomd

2010-05-28 17:55

Re: Who said that Flash 10.1 is not coming?

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Originally Posted by jackabite (Post 684943)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE64R1DI20100528

(Reuters) - Nokia sold less than 100,000 top-of-the-range N900 smartphones in its first five months on the market, researcher Gartner said, indicating it has yet to mount a serious challenge to the iPhone and Blackberry.

I can't see Adobe or many other developers bothering with a population that small....

Not true. The news was corrected, 100,000 sold in the first 5 weeks, not months.

http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n900-...ource-2887458/

Whoever was the source of the first figures, shame on them, the wrong figures are out all over the web. Engadget corrected their post begrudgingly.

I have been a Maemo supporter since the 770. What happened on the 770 happened due to chip support, which was not fun for me, but when the chip can't handle it, that's that.

The n900 is a totally different case, since, yes it does have chip support for 10.1. I have been part of this community for a long time, was absent for a year, lost my ID and password due to Outlook issues, and had to start over with MaemoMD. I also have a few contacts on the higher up in Nokia I will ask; my schedule is atrocious, but I will post if I hear anything.

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