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Who promised that the N900 would get flash 10.1?

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Somewhere in this same thread I posted the source but I am too lazy to find that..

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Now, I don`t mind the N900 not having Flash 10.1, but today Iphone4 has full Flash 10.1 with the help of Frash!....Now this is the last draw....wake up nokia or else your customers will go bye bye.

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How is it the last straw? I mean, I totally get how other platforms are getting it and you would like it too... but as it stands, the Flash Tweak is pretty darn clever. The fact that Adobe Flash 10.1 requires 800mhz (despite coming to the Motorola Droid, which is at 550mhz) then... well, let's just put it out there.

Until another enterprising soul decides to go the Frash method for the N900, you're SOL. I'm just amazed at how how the most closed system got Flash first.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting until September for Froyo for my Captivate.

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Ironic isn't it. The best part is that it's Android code and uses a compatibility layer. I'm sure Steve's was thrilled to hear about this.

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Even the iphone has got flash 10.1 lol

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I'm pretty sure that the mozilla team will be adding html5 support to fennec.

Now with all the rumors about an ovi browser, I wonder how that will handle html5?

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you are right bxbomber you all can take a look

here http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/f...ownload-video/

So its quite the same Hardware Architecture like the N900 i did read we cant get flash 10.1 about the Processor couse its not aviable for it but this argument shouldnt be working now.

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That`s what I mean.That`s why I got so mad.A closed system like the iphone is getting Flash first and we the open system N900 is getting ****!

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i'm angry, very angry ...

why?
the n900 was the first phone on that flash 10.1 was promoted ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tle2XnbWFlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3nT4bPw4

and now?
the n900 will be the last phone (and thats not sure) what will get flash 10.1

NOKIA sorry - but you are crap

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Too true, don't apologise though, someone has to tell them (even if they dont listen!)

Has anyone phoned NOKIA customer care yet (playing dumb) and said that their phone is broken as it's not playing 'tinternet videos' anymore?

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I'm leaving. As immature and clumsy android would be (tried it a lot lately) I know I don't need a new phone for a damn software update.

Once meego is released and I see them quit the "no new OS version for your phone symbian policy" and offer shall we say meego 2.0 to their first meego phone I might be back.

But with this attitude... pfff good luck on selling those s40 phones!

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Forgive my ignorance, but: How does Frash do it? If there's no official Flash build for iPhone, how open or available is the source?

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They replicate an android-like environment under iOS so it could run even though the binary is for the Android. I'm pretty certain that the N900 could do the same if some enterprising hacker with too much time on his hand put in the effort in it. Of course, there is always the question how well it would integrate with the browser (with stuff like cursor mode, etc). Still, currently Flash on mobiles is a monoculture - ARMv7 FroYo. Am curious as to where are the promised releases (or even alphas/betas) for BB, Symbian, webOS and the others (webOS would probably an easier donor-job than Android).

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I thought that Flash for iPhone doesn't play video yet?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYVG-cKHPIE

1gb cpu, 720p video, flash 10.1....hm....it is interesting I will admit it, and I`m hardcore anti-apple

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I think Flash 10.1 or the FREE OVI VOICE NAV are dead for N900.

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My favorite booby site just went flash 10.1 . ahh no more sites like that !!

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<prediction>n900 will get flash 10 soon</prediction>

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It doesn't and theres no guarantee that it ever will. Flash 10.1 for MeeGo might be easier to port fully to Maemo and iOS.

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here is an example of were flash 10.1 is oh so badly needed....in firefox it asks for a pluggin which when selected does not work...in microb it works for a few seconds stutters then restarts stutters and restarts etc etc etc....this is typical of lots of sights i visit now....i will not use any fake methods so this is something i will just have to put up with i guess unless it does come to the n900

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...erview-warlogs

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thankfuly for myself in the uk the guys that brought us tvcplayer have helped fill the gap for live tv.....but for media news sites i am getting blocked out now.

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could someone who uses tweakflash test this page please and report back on how it plays please.....many thanks in advance


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...erview-warlogs

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Version set to 10.0.45, sound works fine, albeit quite choppy video on the stock kernel.

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I posted this on Nokia Australia's Facebook post about OVI Maps

Me:
Nokia Australia:
Me:
Nokia Australia:
So basically, the same answer over and over again until we quit asking.

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I think it is time to "raise" our voices.
There is no direct answer form Nokia, that flash player 10.1 will be available to the n900.
Reading all the discussions over and over on the internet and the nokia support forums. I get the feeling that there NEVER will be a flash player 10.1 update for the n900.
So if Nokia think, they can ignore us we have to make trouble.

Every n900 user should write an email to Nokia support and ask if flahs player 10.1 is coming to the n900 and also when the update will arrive.

The last part of the email should be something like:
"On which way I can return the n900 to Nokia and get my money back."
I know, we have no direct chance, but simple asking this question should be a good way to show Nokia who frustrated we are.

One of the key features at the n900 advertisement was the flash player and "how cool it is". And now this device is "broken" I think.

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C`mon guys.. Nokia N900 is suppose to be an INTERNET TABLET and not a normal cellphone.. The purpose of an Internet Tablet mainly is to surf Internet websites.. And now a days if websites use Flash 10.1, then that basic requirement should be provided by Nokia without which sites becomes useless.. Hence, this is cheating N900 users & may be we all should file a Legal suit against NOKIA !!

WE DONT NEED MONEY, WE NEED FLASH 10.1 !!!

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Think about this:

When the cellular functions weren't perfect, we all stated that the N900 is first and foremost "an internet tablet." Well, the internet tablet functions aren't all there now. What argument stands up here?

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I don't quite get the logic in suing a company over technology they don't directly control, they only deploy it. Can't sue them over not deploying it on your current handset... if that's the case, that will start a domino effect and obsolescence will ultimately have to be defined in a court of law.

And I wouldn't want that.

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Nokia defined N900 as an Internet Tablet everywhere.. So there cannot be two ways about it.. I have enough evidence in writing from Nokia who themselves claimed for N900 to be an Internet Tablet.. It is obviously like cheating consumers where consumers cannot surf websites properly on an Internet Tablet.. And I also have a mail from Adobe stating that their binaries are ready, however it is Nokia who has to work on it to suit N900..

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They defined an internet tablet with Flash 9.4 capabilities and delivered just that.

No comment about "updates" are anywhere in any definition. Flash 10.1 was shown by a third party, Adobe at their Adobe MAX last October. No word from Nokia (not surprising) about it ever was made official.

I'm not baiting nor arguing against you; I truly get your point. But step back out of the disappointment and you'll see that this is "business as usual" once you're purchased any gadget.

There's no guarantee that you will get an update even if terms like "computer" are used and we're used to updating them, right?

Cooler heads shall prevail my friend.

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Yes please get over it. Why stress yourself so much? You can get an android and relax about it. Nothing you say or do will bring support for Flash 10.1 on N900 immediately. If at all it needs to come then it is probably already in planning and no they won't tell you when it will or will not come. So chill yall'.

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Surely the fact that the n900 is hardly a year old and already obsolete considering it was labeled a flash ready internet tablet gives us a strong reason to be upset?

At the end of the day it is a business decision and in my opinion a bad one, I have owned one Nokia before my n900 and I truly do think that the n900 is probably the best phone I have ever had but Nokia's dreadfull customer support means that when it comes to my next phone choice I will not be selecting a nokia!

Flash 10.1 was shown running on the n900 so what's the crack? No communication from Nokia, hell I just wish they handed over the the entire source for the n900 and all the work to date and be done with it, would save us all a load of grief!

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I got an answer from Nokia support (Germany), which sounds like:
"There are many applications and ring tones by 3rd parties at NOKIA OVI Store. But they can't told me if the software (flash player 10.1) is for sale or is available."

Also I called the support. They said to me, that they don't know when flash player 10.1 will be available. This depends from model version and build number of my phone (rofl). But they can't give me an answer, but she will forward my wishes to the development bureau.

I asked again and I know exactly:
I will never buy a product from Nokia again.

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Well, my N900 is up for sale (planning to get the (much cheaper in my country) galaxy S so it's either or.
Either somebody buys it and I'll move to android or flash does come up and I cancel the sale.

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Christ, if you're going to switch to an android device at least go with the Droid 2. Samsung's android phones are meh compared to the droids.

I'm hopeful that if nokia won't deliver, at least the community might :D I'm guessing Adobe only gives their dev tools to make flash 10.1 happen to corporations with lots of cash?

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With 10.0.45 (desktop version hack) video works excellent except a slight jittering on sound (on lehto 900 mhz kernel).With Froyo version the video restarts itself.

So, if anybody wants Flash 10.1 at least try the Flash hack.It works excellent!

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@nax

Umm... NO!

I'm a previous owner of motorola (sigh - worst build quality I've seen in my life) and sony (with their damn useless under-performing M2 memory cards, crappy pop-port, bug-full OSes and never arriving updates).

As an example, the 3G speed of droid 2 "Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps". I know them for keeping it real cheap and not eve if they sold a phone made out of titanium would I buy it.

I'm not a previous samsung owner but the i8910 (symbian) was certainly a hit, if you know HX (custom roms) the things that have been moded and enhanced on that device are amazing, even though samsung provided little support.

And with android although the OS requires a ridiculous amount of buttons, doesn't have a task manager, etc etc, the updates keep rolling from google and if samsung would stop support I believe community updates wouldn't be to difficult to bring (I hope).

So yes I'm a most difficult client with little options. I certainly won't return to nokia unless they change their policy of (not) offering upgrades.

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You're actually the first person I hear that said that Motorola's build quality is poor. All I've been hearing is that the droid and droid x are built like tanks.
Also I personally like the vanilla android - no "skins" and UI overlays for me, which is what the droid 2 provides.
Oh well, to each his own.

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i just turn phone off and boot into nitdroid and can watch flash10 vids all night long no problem, then when i want to use maemo i turn phone off and boot maemo,
personally i think nokia did a good job building a phone capable of doing that! (along with all the community devs who also made it possible!)
n900 is an awesome device, nuff said