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IF Nokia should pay for the license I'm pretty sure they that the number of devices wouldn't be 273.

It would probably be a tad higher then that... Just a little bit higher... ;)

To me, it sounds like You're sure that they are licensing Flash to Nokia to use on whatever device/platform. I'm not sure that's the case.

I'm thinking that the license for Maemo and the license for Meego would be 2 separate things, and as many people have already argued they aren't going to sell any new Maemo devices, so why pay for a new license for Maemo?

I'd like Flash 10.1+ too. I just don't believe that Nokia will be providing it if it costs them money...

In the end for the guys on top it's all about profit... ;)

Try selling the idea to them... :)

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Flash Player 10.1 is royalty free

Unlike previous versions

But still has to be licensed

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incredible ,

but i think that if adobe/texas instruments see a link with your file will not send it to more people, but who cares if we already have this file to share?

and when the final version is completed will be released anyway.

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There's also possible penalties against the file uploader (if they added some way to identify which user they gave it to).

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Lawyers.

What final version? Released by whom?

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ivyking yes it is very easy .

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Let's talk about how to break into someone's car and steal their stereo next

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Good, sounds like you can wait.

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Hm,

after all, Nokia will release an own version of MeeGo, definitly WITH Flash 10.1, also there will be a free open source Version of MeeGo, which also will be used by other firms. So Adobe, and I am quite sure about this, release a meego compatible version of Flash Player 10.1. So we can also use it on N900 in MeeGo, or maybe Maemo.

And for everybody can't wait to see Flash 10.1 running on N900 - take NITDroid. There are only some websites realy need 10.1, so you can start NITDroid, if you know you REALY NEED 10.1 Flash, 3G data connection also works, so it will also be possible on your way to school, work, on the train - or whatever.

BUT: If there will be a torrent release, I am not unhappy. :D

AlphaX2

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Please do not upload the file on megaupload so I can't download it.

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dave999 are you crazy?? the people dont upload the file and you put limitations?????? that people upload the file in megaupload or other , dont worry be happy that after i will upload this file in others servers

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This is very bad comparison. The situation could be interpreted more like this:

N900 users: Great, we would like to have this stereo too! Where we can buy it?
Manufacturer: Nowhere!
N900 users: But it is going to come in stores eventually?
Manufacturer: Never!
N900 users: We're very sad, he doesn't care about us, guys! Nor he likes our money. :( What shall we do? :confused: OK, we know that Stskeeps and few other guys got this stereo for free, so let's visit them to make few clones of this great stereo just for ourselves. :p

I don't support this kind approach, but I understand feelings of misled crowds after Adobe's last year presentation.

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Just apply through TI.... I'm waiting but if I get turned down that's fine. It's not like I need flash 10.1 everyday.

It's Nokia that shut us the door not TI. Please don't abuse the good will from TI.

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And except Nokia. They need some differences compared to the N900 to sell their new expensive successor.

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there still will be enough differences, and which one of the out-of-the-box-users even knows (or will get to know) the possibility of getting flash 10.1 on your n900.

so lets face it, even if that file leaks, just a very low percentage of the n900s in the world will get flash 10.1 (hope mine is one of them)

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I don't really get why everyone is blaming Nokia for this not being on your device. I'm sure there's some bureaucrat somewhere in their system that decided it's not worth it to give the users the upgrade for whatever the licencing costs are, but for f'ks sake, not of you complain about the fact that Adobe is responsible for not just providing a free flash player for mobile devices in the first place.

My opinion on the matter is: You don't get to complain about Flash 10.1 not being on the N900 officially unless you've sent an email to Adobe about their policy in regards to providing free-to-download flash players for online devices.

On another note, can I get some general idea about what you people each said to TI? Because "just fill it out honestly" means absolutely nothing, because "honestly" can be anything from "I want it on my N900 because it's the latest version" to "I am a developer for (company), and am interested in evaluating how well our flash applications will perform on the latest version of Flash on ARM-based Linux devices, so that users accessing them from such devices do not run into problems." And both of those could be true simultaneously. So suggesting that we honestly fill out the form doesn't help much.

That said, I personally do intend to be honest regardless of what you guys tell me you said, whether you got the files or not. It's just a matter of me deciding whether to even bother trying to or not.

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This thread (well, the last few pages) has convinced me that pirates are immature crybabies.

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Pirates who can't easily get their hands on the pirated goods (as in the whole category of people who sit at the bottom and wait for stuff to go up on torrents or public download sites), perhaps. Pirates at higher ends of the ladder - eg people who feed pirated warez and media to the topsites and the ones that distribute stuff from there are typically different.

And of course, even that is a rather large over-generalization. But not that that matters to you, right ysss? You just wanted to use your snarky comment opportunity.

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It was a snarky comment, but he's right, too. There's a lot o' whining going on around here.

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what does flash player 10 have that the currently installed has not anyway? i can view flash content without any problems. including the full 2advanced site smoothly.

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I believe some people here mixing speed with bacon(tocino con la velocidad).
That piece of software is protected by copyright you say. But when its ready are they planning on selling it? Or will it be available for everybody for free? If that is the case, how can it be considered stealing? If it was not free (gratis) it would be totally different.

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Facebook video, Vimeo, and anybody else that's made the jump to FP 10.x.x.x - some of it works because it's not been recompiled to take advantage of the Flash Player 10.1 features via the Flash switcher app that fools the website to think it's a higher version than it's not.

But the moment those videos (*.flv) and sites (*.swf) are published using FP 10.1 standard effects and/or features, then you will need a proper FP 10.1 plugin.

2advanced... the current version is still set to run on FP 8, if I remember correctly. FP 9 at the most.

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It isn't free. It's licensed... by Nokia. Nokia pays that license for you.

Just like the browser/OS people pay for H.264 encoding for you too.

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more pages and more pages and people who have the file not published it and Texas Instruments did not send the email with the file . I sent many requests the last week and this week and nothing

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Who do you mean when you write "they"?

The Flash plug-in Texas Instruments makes available to developers working on devices based on TI A8-based devices is ready. It is evaluation software, made for developers working on projects that utilize appropriate OMAP chips so those developers can test the performance of Flash on the systems they're building.

This does not imply TI has any intention of releasing the plug-in freely to the world at large. It seems likely that for such large scale distribution Adobe would demand different licensing, and a larger check, than for limited distribution, evaluation software.

The fact that Texas Instruments has a Linux-on-OMAP Flash 10.1 plug-in to distribute may not even mean that Adobe itself has that plug-in. There's been some indicators pointed out in this thread that Adobe (sometimes? always?) leaves Flash-on-ARM porting efforts to outside companies. It's possible that Texas Instruments paid licensing fees and developed the plug-in in-house or paid a third party to port the plug-in for them.

In any case, none of this implies Nokia has, and will be releasing, an updated Flash plug-in for Maemo 5 on the N900. It shows that Flash 10.1 on Maemo 5 is possible, but that was never in question.

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Soo, isn't there any difference in speed with this new plugin to the one coming with N900? I thought that vector graphics were supposed to be hardware accelerated (through openvg?) in flash 10.1 for mobile devices.

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this ti-version hasn't got hw acceleration, read the last 8 pages, someone has written an explanation why (or why he believes) ;)

may anyone tell me whats the difference (under licensing/pirating aspects) between backporting flash 10.1 from meego and sharing the file from ti?

except backporting needs much more work (and the guy releasing it will get much more appreciation) and may be more unstable?

so everybody whining about whining pirates should first think wether he would have used backported flash player which is as much "stealing" or violating licensing laws as copying that file, because don't tell me that nokia will buy a maemo+meego licence, the libraries will just get licenced for meego.

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I had thought that I could wait for an official release because MaeMaps was giving me access to google streetview after it stopped working in the direct access through the browser. But that's no longer true. I've asked for the TI version, being completely honest in the process. and didn't get it from them (so far). Still waiting patiently...

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roffles at those lecturing at pirates here - I am sure no one uses PSFreedom or n900 emulators illegally and owns all of their games.

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Wouldn't it be nice if the source to flash was leaked :)

Anyone know how Flash got ported to the iPad? Reverse engineering or emulating?

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wait a minute. I will call adobe and tell them to release it to the masses for free.

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No, didn't get what I wanted. But some good information :)

Me: Hello
Adobe: Hello, what can I do for you today?
Me: I want you to release Flash 10 for the mighty n900. PRONTO! And it must be free!
Adobe: It's already free.
Me: Huh?
Adobe: If nokia pays for it. The sneeky finnish mobil vendor wants everything for free just becouse the are the biggest mobil manufacturer in the world. In fact, a while back we offer to release for free. But nokia suddenly changed it's mind and wanted us to pay them for every download of flash 10. Can you belive that!?!?!
Me: sadly, I can. Thank you for your time.
Adobe: No problems. I will go and play with my goggle android flash 10 mobil super phone for a while before I call Mr Elop and see if he wants to pay a fee for flash 10 to meego OS or not. I heard it will be a killer!

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http://www.myvido1.com/wTFlUMONTW5RW...ash-94-on-n900

How is the iPhone community porting flash with hardware acceleration?

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b/c they dont care about legalities of it.
on the other hand i'm sure adobe wont do nothing to stop them just b/c they want to laugh at Steve Jobs
adobe should just stick the work they did on cydia

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True, though legalities can always be skipped over the same way say... PS emulators handle things. "Heres the entire working project minus a module you will need to bitTorrent for yourself"

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So is anyone sharing the wealth?

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I doubt anyone would risk themselves that much just to serve others something so small.

The risk does not outweigh the self-satisfaction they'd feel.

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Bill Gates. He's a real philanthropist.

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well? what should I put in here?

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Anyone? Thank-you!