Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

The risk depends on what country you are in.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Perhaps we could collect money to pay the needed licence for Flash 10 ourselves to Adope?

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Somehow I doubt that this would work. It would be bad publicity for Adobe that some end users would need to pay them to get their "free" product.

However, would it be possible to negotiate with TI to get their development build of Flash 10 to be distributed more widely to Maemo community? Maybe community council (with help of Quim Gil maybe) could contact TI and negotiate on what terms we could install their version of Flash? Of course there could also be some impossible obstacles (like some licensing stuff between Adobe and TI) but atleast we could get more information about the situation.

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Im just happy to know flash 10.1 is floating around, give it a week at the most and someone will have uploaded it somewhere,
i filled in the TI form myself but im not gonna hold my breath.

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This is a very good question, I will try to make some contacts on Council level so there is at least some hope of an official response before the whole thing erupts in a rapidshare frenzy and/or TI cutoff of distribution. Ideally, it would be cool if we could use tweakflashver to swap in-out this flash plugin *legally* just as we do the faked one (technically it's the same process).

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

I did apply for this legitimately 5 days ago and have heard nothing, so I am hoping TI haven't decided to stop giving this out already.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Same here. Sigh.

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Oh that would be totally ****ed up if the non-legit folks messed it up for the legit people.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Exactly what I was thinking...

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Which is why I didnt apply for it, despite very much wanting it.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

This is really weird.. no leakage yet

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Thank you for this. I understand that this is going to take some time but please keep us updated on the progress.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

If you were applying for it without lying to them (as I was), you won't get it, for on the TI page it now says
Previously, it said "including Sitara and DaVinci platforms".

There is also little hope, I'm afraid, TI can be talked into giving it to our community, since they now say
But the latter statement seems to leave open the possibility that for instance Carsten/Stskeeps asks Adobe for permission to ship it to extras-devel....:rolleyes:

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

ill be willing to PAY/DONATE to the community just to have flash working again on my beloved N900 :D

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

must be other companies with the same sort of flash plug-ins for devs?

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I've just talked with a certain Nokia-afflliated person on IRC. He said - And I believe him when he says this - that Nokia will ignore most if not all request/complaint posts on the forum. After all, they could be faked, right?
Now, while its incredibly unlikely that -this many- posts are all faked, I understand where he's coming from.

What he suggests doing is calling or emailing NokiaCare with our complaints and suggestions. One or two won't make a difference, but if we get a couple hundred unique emails sent; a bunch of calls in... That might get someone to take notice.

Now, in order to do this, the complaint should be something like "I cant load -major site X-". You can ignore TweakFlashPlayer, because -they- shouldn't know about it and its third-party software also. Just disable that, then complain about some major site you can't access.

You can try emailing through the form here: http://www.nokiausa.com/get-support-...are/contact-us
Or call 1-866-59NOKIA (1-866-596-6542).
And remember, be an obstinate consumer. You paid for this dang device, and its supposed to have Flash. Why isn't it working?!??


It can't hurt.

P.S. If you find a good email or number of someone who might be better than the official number/email... Let us know.

-Rob

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Note that the latest issue is strictly on a TI <-> community relation. Nokia has no say in what distribution deal TI has with Adobe nor whether TI will let us have this or that (we *can* ask for logistics and insight, though). Already pointed out a couple of times - Nokia does listen (though not in the context of 'obey', but rather as input). As for subject matter, it doesn't take a PR rocket scientist to realize not having an up-to-date Flash Player is not exactly an advantage, even if there were zero complaints about it on talk.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

In addition to this, instead of posting your frustration about absence of newer Flash versions for N900 here, *also* post it @ Nokia Discussion Forums [1] , with effort of our community and majority of our whining team, we can flood that forum with complaints, make them look very, VERY bad company on their own forums -and sometimes I think it's a correct statement tbh- and push/force them to make a marketing stunt to get us to shut up :p

Worth trying.

[1] http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...ces/bd-p/maemo

--
Off-topic: Seems like TI stopped sending copies of Flash 10 software, and since nobody wants to share it with others or the community, It looks like our last chance of getting Flash 10 on our devices (even illegally) is now vanished.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

No. Contact has been made and talks are ongoing. They have just been stunned by the huge number of requests received from Maemo folks, so please refrain from any outbursts or premature conclusions until any kind of resolution and announcement is made.

Please avoid starting forum wars, the successes of those historically approaches zero. Flooding official Nokia forums can result (depending on language used and other circumstances) in moderator action and will only make it harder for the voices of reason be heard (think about why Nokia communicates via a Community Council and does not get into our talk thread business). On a side note, maemo.org is way (*way*) higher ranked on google and judging by the number of backlinks, influences the blogosphere more than the Nokia Discussion Forums.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

I dont think the cpu on the N900 can handle flash 10. I put it on a PC I was fixing, it had 1.7ghz cpu which when running flash 10 in 360 on youtube the cpu was running at 100% and the picture was real laggy.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

This one seems to have some TI involvement, so maybe some optimizations went into it.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

maybe someone having flash 10.1 could tell about performance and compatibility? (e.g. youtube (->resolutions?) or street view and wether there is a need to overclock).

so that we aren't all sobbering "i want flash 10.1" and it isn't usable/stable ;)

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Megavideo performance seems to be decent and stable (hooray), Youtube performance seems same as before, Comedy Network's video player stutters, unfortunately. That's after 5 minutes of testing, mind you.

Also to all of those asking for the file to be posted, don't forget the general rule of the internet. Everything is a google search away.

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And here:(

Damn, i can't find it on google as well.
Can some one post google search string to find a download?

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

What graphics card did it have? Being a 1.7 sounds quite old so would have an old graphics card!

Its not all about CPU because 10.1 is GPU accelerated

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Maxim Isayev send me a link with a private message or put here a link , i googled and nothing

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

GUYS... read the TI page. This plug-in is NOT licensed for production. As Stskeeps alluded to earlier, there is likely unique code in the binary that can trace it back to you if you leak it.

Even if you are willing to take the risk and leak it, TMO should not be the vehicle for such discussions.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

cfh11 ok but

this very pretty that in a n900 mobile only five o six persons can develope o try flash 10.1 and other people run flash 9.4

Nokia and Adobe bad relationship, and Texas Instruments adobe good relationship. Why users can not enjoy a plugin that Adobe introduced in 2009?

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At least two people got the binaries. What to the md5 sums say? Is there really a tracker? I doubt it. It is a little amusing how moralistic the Maemo community is on this subject, when a bunch of them are running an evaluation JRE, or using Google copyrighted apps in Nitdroid, or using patent covered codecs in mplayer.

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@Samipower

Seriously, stop asking. No-one is going to send it to you. I am sure it will eventually leak.

Also, I think that your expectations for it are too high. The performance will probably be very similar to 9.4 and Tweak Flash Plugin already enables most Flash features.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Tweak Flash Plugin Version doesn't "enable most Flash features", it simply changes the version string presented to websites in cases where they block access based on version detection. Your flash plugin has no more ability with it than without it.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

How is the performance in flash 10.1 with this plugin on n900? It runs poorly on openpandora, it can even handle full screen youtube properly.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

I know. Badly worded. By features, I meant content.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

True but not the 10.1 mobile devices have. If I remember correctly even the Android 10.1 Flash isn't GPU accelerated yet.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Absolutely spot on mate. Yeah I think they are not GPU accelerated either. Because you can see the frame rate is not smooth as on the computer. The frame rate quite slow and if it is GPU accelerated then they will have no problem viewing the video on the page without having to full screen it to make it runs smoother.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

I just tried to play Farmville on my HD2 Froyostone Android with flash 10.1. Didn't work at all, so what's the point again?

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

It's important to keep in mind that communities, particularly large ones such as this one, aren't monolithic. Opinions and ideas expressed in one thread may not cleanly mesh with those in another as there may be no overlap of participants.

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

OH SNAP! So I can't play Farmville on my N900? That's it, I don't want this piece of **** N900 any more! What is the point if I can't play Farmville?! It renders the device COMPLETELY useless!

:mad:


You were being sarcastic, right? ;)

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

he means how moralistic those are who got the file from ti and don't wanna share it ;)

another thought: if we can use meego with flash on our n900 why shouldn't we be allowed to use flash with maemo on the n900?

what is the difference?

i think those who don't want to upload it are just scared by big adobe/ti chasing them around the world for uploading a file appr. 5000 people will download (and only half of them will be able to use it).

so please post the md5checksum, if you are to scared to do more than that

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 

Who has said that meego will ship with flash?!

I'm sure there is no flash support at Meego 1.1 - it's device vendor specific if they will ship their devices with Flash or not. But it's not integrated by default in the standard image.