Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

I would say offered in that format, a request to use google makes even my last reply irrelevant. Now if only everyone who said "use google" gave relevant search terms or clues we would be set.

Edit:
Agreed about the availability of such apps as default, but on N900, only one of them is available via extras (wget). I was just trying to think of commands I use more frequently. As for locate vs find, while I can appreciate that find can do the same thing and a lot more (heck, IIRC find is called from within locate), I am lazy.

As for what a regular user uses, I was thinking about the part of the discussion that was directing users to use google for linux commands.

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

Off-topic: I prefer the Pratchett version of that saying: "Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life".

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

Anyway, I think that we can all agree that even in this obvious flamebait thread, posted by a known troll, we were able to have a civil and deep discussion. That says enough about the community imho. :)

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

And I understand your complaint about people who don't. I just personally am someone who has no life and googles all night anyway, so putting those in my post I don't mind. However, after putting those in several different threads - even I get annoyed. Usually, I start by telling them to google with hints. Then I'll direct the next inquisitor to use the forum search and link back to the thread where I offered google with hints. After that, I will either ignore the post completely.. or shorten it to "search the forums". Doing the same thing over and over again is no fun for me. This is not a 1:1 ratio, it's usually entirely up to my mood when I move from one mode to the other.

So as a user, tell me - which is the preferred solution: if I tell you the answer is around, because I have seen it, several times, I just don't remember exactly where and I'm not in the mood to search, yet again, for that location - or if I tell you nothing? If everyone that's ever had to repeat themselves say nothing.. Well - I'd hate to become the Ubuntu forums.

Well yes, and googling for Linux commands will inevitably produce fdisk, but as someone who just got an N900 and I google "linux commands" and I read "This command will repartition you hard drive..".. if I have an IQ at all I'll be like "Ok, I'll come back to that."

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

I wonder if silence would encourage users to be more independent when trying to solve their problems? That seems to be the way qtcentre.org operates. People will reply if they have an answer, and ignore your post if they either don't know the answer or the answer has been answered numerous places already. I personally prefer silence over a "RTFM" reply. IMHO there is less chance of confrontation As the old cliche goes, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Perhaps being pedantic, but there has been plenty of conversation around repartitioning the N 900 -- one discussing ntfs for large data transfers I believe, which might lead people to this tool. ;-)

That being said, more likely is that the same user, not knowing that he has to enable the tools repo will instead discover cfdisk which is available (I think). That, or they'll see that it is a command line program and say "screw that, where's the gui?".

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

You sir, are a troll.

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

I just thought that they were a bit wiser than us and just ignored you from the start :D

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

This has not been my experience. My experience is that if a newbie is ignored... he just talks louder*.

*Bump their own threads, put the same question in multiple places, interject it into unrelated topics, rant, rave, say we have an inactive community, say we're unhelpful egotistical arrogant...... oh wait. :rolleyes:

And I fully think telling someone their answer is here on the forums, all they have to do is search for it - is saying something nice. That's my opinion though. Now, saying stuff like "Did you even bother to search before posting?" or other such argumentative phrases, while I understand the frustration, is not the nicest way of putting it.

However, forum etiquette is as much the responsibility of the inquirer as it is the instructor(s).

I'm sure we can both agree posts such as "Your device SUCKS - It can't do XYZ" as their way of saying "Please, how can I do XYZ" - are not helpful either.

Some tips to people :asking: questions - illustrate that you *have* searched for the answer, provide examples of what you found, and why they are *not* what you need. This helps people trying to help you feel like they aren't wasting their time.

There is very little more frustrating for me, than this conversation:
I love helping people that show the capacity and desire to learn.. I hate doing things for people. I don't suspect I am the only one here like that.

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

Wait. How did I miss that he used the same verbiage at an iPhone site about Android!? Ugh. Not cool at all...

Re: The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

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//K