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munkiii 2010-09-03 15:26

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by kyros (Post 806271)
Thanx, my fault! :rolleyes:

And if you want it to have an icon the same as FCamera (it has no icon at the moment) then put this file in your "/usr/share/applications/hildon/"

(icons for dummies: unzip it first, put the .desktop file in there, not the zip)

Flandry 2010-09-09 02:43

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Hi, i saw the discussion on the forum of the fcamera garage and it sounded like your fcamera++ included a timer feature. Is this available in the current package? Unless i have missed something, there's no other way to get a basic timer feature for the N900 camera, and with the tripod i just received, it would really be handy.

tpaixao 2010-09-09 06:02

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 811277)
Hi, i saw the discussion on the forum of the fcamera garage and it sounded like your fcamera++ included a timer feature. Is this available in the current package? Unless i have missed something, there's no other way to get a basic timer feature for the N900 camera, and with the tripod i just received, it would really be handy.

that's what it does. It just extends fcamera with timer and recurrent shot functions. You know, to make timelapse movies.

By the way, which tripod did you get?

Flandry 2010-09-09 09:40

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 811361)
that's what it does. It just extends fcamera with timer and recurrent shot functions. You know, to make timelapse movies.

Thanks. I've got the power kernel installed so i'll have to wait to try your modifications. It wasn't until i had fcamera installed that i realized there's (still) no timer functionality. D'oh.

I'm guessing the new fcamera version doesn't break the changes too much... Have you got a patch for the changes you made? If you haven't time to update it i'll take a look at getting it into the repo as fcamera++ so these really useful additional features can reach more people.

Quote:

By the way, which tripod did you get?
Ordered this one, but haven't done the mod yet. Seems fairly robust.

zimon 2010-09-09 12:52

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 766000)
alright guys, here's a .deb with my version of fcamera. It's basically the same as the original with one extra control for the number of photos and delay between them.

This FcameraTL would deserve its own discussion thread so ppl would find it. Fcam really needs time lapse feature.

zimon 2010-09-19 04:24

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 766000)
alright guys, here's a .deb with my version of fcamera. It's basically the same as the original with one extra control for the number of photos and delay between them.

The delay slider goes from 0 to 60 in units that can be seconds or minutes depending on what you choose in the the settings screen (swipe up). See my previous post for some screenshots.

Installation is as usual ("dpkg -i <deb file>" as root). I am not sure if the deb takes care of the dependencies but I guess it does.

Do you plan to export this to the repositories?

Ayle 2010-09-22 19:32

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Please put it in extra-testing. Do you have an updated version?

tpaixao 2010-09-28 16:35

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by Ayle (Post 823760)
Please put it in extra-testing. Do you have an updated version?


Hello all. Yes, I plan to put it in the repositories. The only thing is I don't know exactly how that works but I'll figure it out.
It has taken a while for me to get back to this, mostly because of real life issues, but I'm back on that horse now. Expect an updated release soon.
I'm thinking of using the old timelapse garage account to continue development on this version of Fcamera, so that I can get it up faster. As soon as I do submit it to extras-devel, I'll create a new [Announce] thread for it.
More soon...

Flandry 2010-10-15 17:17

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Bump. Did i miss the announcement thread or is it still pending?

Still need a delay timer on my N900. :/

Can you post the latest code somewhere, please?

Ikari 2010-10-16 08:02

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
I second that request. Been waiting for this for a while now, would be nice to know what the status is.

devilhere 2010-10-16 08:42

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
i have been waiting too.. having problems with the one installed :(

tpaixao 2010-10-17 04:43

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Alright people, the wait is over.
I was having some problems with the new version of fCamera but it is sorted out now (sort of).
Here is the new Timelapse. Install as usual (as root):

dpkg -i timelapse_0.17-1_armel.deb

the version number is 0.17 to denote that is based on fcamera 0.1.7. Also, it has a new icon, and you can safely install this with the normal fcamera. You probably need fcam-drivers already installed.

There is a new panel for the options of timelapse photography where you can choose the units of the timer (seconds or minutes). When you press the shutter button all the way the timer starts and if you press again it will stop. I strongly advise you to turn off the capture animations, since it makes everything very slow and can interfere in the timed shots. Also, short timers (<10s) sometimes create some problems, causing timelapse to skip a shot.

I'm in the process of updating the webpage where you can download the deb and the source code, if you want to take a look at it. I'm doing this right now, so don't think it's going to be ages, again.

I still couldn't figure out a way to display a warning that the timer is running. What I usually do is turn on the blink everytime a shot is taken.

Again, sorry for the delay.Now I have to figure out how to submit this to extras-devel. In the meantime, the deb is here and at the webpage.

Hope you enjoy. Let me know about bugs and suggestions

devilhere 2010-10-17 05:31

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
:D nice one mate !! trying it now ....

maxximuscool 2010-10-17 05:42

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 843042)
Alright people, the wait is over.
I was having some problems with the new version of fCamera but it is sorted out now (sort of).
Here is the new Timelapse. Install as usual (as root):

dpkg -i timelapse_0.17-1_armel.deb

the version number is 0.17 to denote that is based on fcamera 0.1.7. Also, it has a new icon, and you can safely install this with the normal fcamera. You probably need fcam-drivers already installed.

There is a new panel for the options of timelapse photography where you can choose the units of the timer (seconds or minutes). When you press the shutter button all the way the timer starts and if you press again it will stop. I strongly advise you to turn off the capture animations, since it makes everything very slow and can interfere in the timed shots. Also, short timers (<10s) sometimes create some problems, causing timelapse to skip a shot.

I'm in the process of updating the webpage where you can download the deb and the source code, if you want to take a look at it. I'm doing this right now, so don't think it's going to be ages, again.

I still couldn't figure out a way to display a warning that the timer is running. What I usually do is turn on the blink everytime a shot is taken.

Again, sorry for the delay.Now I have to figure out how to submit this to extras-devel. In the meantime, the deb is here and at the webpage.

Hope you enjoy. Let me know about bugs and suggestions

Seems like the rebooting bug is fixed in this version.

devilhere 2010-10-17 05:58

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
yep. it happened to me too.. and over screen saver settings are very low to save power ... i havent been able to successfully use any older versions for unknown reasons..

is this supposed to save in .DNG format ?? it saves in folder FCamera... trying to search what DNG is all about

any info / software about DNG ? why DNG and not JPEG ?

devilhere 2010-10-17 06:14

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
well :( 10 MB DNG file with 1 MPx resolution ? or am i doing something wrong ?

Flandry 2010-10-17 13:03

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by devilhere (Post 843061)
well :( 10 MB DNG file with 1 MPx resolution ? or am i doing something wrong ?

This is a modified FCamera app. FCamera saves in the DNG RAW format, as well as a small jpeg for viewing. I suggest you start in the FCamera thread for more information.

tpaixao 2010-10-17 15:34

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 843308)
This is a modified FCamera app. FCamera saves in the DNG RAW format, as well as a small jpeg for viewing. I suggest you start in the FCamera thread for more information.

correct. and just to be clear, RAW files are good if you want to have the best possible quality. The 1Mpx image is just the thumbnail preview. You can have automatic JPGs if you select the option "save jpegs to image library".

It is true that this app has no power saving features. I guess that's OK for fcamera but clearly not great for timelapse. Also, it seems so much slower than my original app. I might have to do a major rewrite. let me think about this.

devilhere 2010-10-17 20:31

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
i didn't have the complete info about DNG.. and yes, Power save is not good for Time Lapse.. again.. thank you very much for the app.. did my first video of 4secs today :D

maxximuscool 2010-10-17 20:38

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 843392)
correct. and just to be clear, RAW files are good if you want to have the best possible quality. The 1Mpx image is just the thumbnail preview. You can have automatic JPGs if you select the option "save jpegs to image library".

It is true that this app has no power saving features. I guess that's OK for fcamera but clearly not great for timelapse. Also, it seems so much slower than my original app. I might have to do a major rewrite. let me think about this.

Yeah it is seem to be fixed in this version. I too kept getting the crashed and burned when the power saving mode is on in the previous version. But this one didn't crash on me just yet. Well I hope it won't.

tpaixao 2010-10-18 05:08

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Hey guys and gals,

just to let you know that I'm listening and actively working on these issues. Right now I just finished implementing a couple of improvements:

1) there is now a small overlay to indicate that the timer is running

2) I disabled the animation control and it is set to off by default

3) and most importantly, Timelapse now turns off the sensor between shots to save power. This will probably need some controls because it is not worth the extra latency if you're only going to take a couple of shots or if the interval between the shots is extremely short. I still have to implement these controls, but that should be easy. This should address your complaints about power saving.

furthermore, I plan to add an option to skip saving the DNGs and just save JPEGs.

I would release this new version right now but, since I still want to implement these few things and, it's late and I don't feel like packaging right now, you'll have to wait a bit longer.

In the meanwhile, if you could give me your opinions on what kind of controls do you think are convenient for the "sensor off" setting, it would be appreciated. I'm thinking of a minimum number of shots to be taken and maybe a minimum interval between the shots.

Anyway, I just wanted to give you these updates.

maxximuscool 2010-10-18 06:15

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 843804)
Hey guys and gals,

just to let you know that I'm listening and actively working on these issues. Right now I just finished implementing a couple of improvements:

1) there is now a small overlay to indicate that the timer is running

2) I disabled the animation control and it is set to off by default

3) and most importantly, Timelapse now turns off the sensor between shots to save power. This will probably need some controls because it is not worth the extra latency if you're only going to take a couple of shots or if the interval between the shots is extremely short. I still have to implement these controls, but that should be easy. This should address your complaints about power saving.

furthermore, I plan to add an option to skip saving the DNGs and just save JPEGs.

I would release this new version right now but, since I still want to implement these few things and, it's late and I don't feel like packaging right now, you'll have to wait a bit longer.

In the meanwhile, if you could give me your opinions on what kind of controls do you think are convenient for the "sensor off" setting, it would be appreciated. I'm thinking of a minimum number of shots to be taken and maybe a minimum interval between the shots.

Anyway, I just wanted to give you these updates.


Is there by any chance if you going to add flash led support? HDR shots took multiple pictures and didn't combine the images into one.
Also could you add black and white shot into the sensor mode?

Please add some sort notification that the camera time lapse is activated. It is hard to know whether it is actually working or not. Press the camera button and message say TimeLapse is activated, number of shots taken out of xx value.

The dng thumpnail is annoying, it displayed inside the Photos album. Could be great if you could get rid of them too, remove dng raw file and that will save space.

Not sure what else to think of at the moment.

tpaixao 2010-10-18 18:47

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 843826)
Is there by any chance if you going to add flash led support?

this can certainly be done but I have to figure out a way to put the controls for this in the main windows, which is already a bit crowded. Ideas are welcome

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 843826)
HDR shots took multiple pictures and didn't combine the images into one.

yeah... this will be hard, essentially because it just takes a helluva of a lot of time to do this in situ. I think this is probably best left to a specialized app.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 843826)
Also could you add black and white shot into the sensor mode?

hmm, I'm sure this could be done but I think it is also best to leave all post processing to other apps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 843826)
Please add some sort notification that the camera time lapse is activated. It is hard to know whether it is actually working or not. Press the camera button and message say TimeLapse is activated, number of shots taken out of xx value.

right now (in the unreleased version) there is a small warning indicating that the timelapse is running. I'll try to provide the rest of the information there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 843826)
The dng thumpnail is annoying, it displayed inside the Photos album. Could be great if you could get rid of them too, remove dng raw file and that will save space.

yes, I know. I'm planning to do that, like I said before. However, saving JPGs takes more time than RAW because of all the processing you need to do. We'll see how it behaves...


Thanks

devilhere 2010-10-19 22:04

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
and i feel we dont need the slider to select time and number of pics. its a bit tricky when you are not using stylus, with stylus also it took great patience for me :D .. how about a text box kinda thing ?

seridyan 2010-10-20 02:00

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by devilhere (Post 845489)
and i feel we dont need the slider to select time and number of pics. its a bit tricky when you are not using stylus, with stylus also it took great patience for me :D .. how about a text box kinda thing ?

Second that

maxximuscool 2010-10-20 02:30

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilhere (Post 845489)
and i feel we dont need the slider to select time and number of pics. its a bit tricky when you are not using stylus, with stylus also it took great patience for me :D .. how about a text box kinda thing ?

You must got large fingers lol. I don't find it hard at all.

devilhere 2010-10-22 13:52

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
yep indeed, large fingers :D but i tried with Stylus also ... still the same.. need lot of patience ;)

ossipena 2010-10-27 08:48

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
million thankses, this just saved my (and a dozen other workers) day!

danx 2010-10-27 12:42

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
can anyone tell me how to work this app ? or point me to the right direction .

jaimex2 2010-11-13 02:17

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
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Originally Posted by danx (Post 853381)
can anyone tell me how to work this app ? or point me to the right direction .

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1650

They are the GUI versions.I'm loving this app very much, I cant wait for it to be polished.

I have problems with version 0.17-1 so I use 0.2-1.

0.17-1 makes my phone restart on its own after a few minutes, it may be due to the power kernel I think. The version of Fcam it was built on just doesn't work well with it.

I downloaded the latest fcam drivers yesterday that are meant to be compatible with power kernel but it still happens.

0.2-1 works very nicely but seems to stop on its own at around 600 photos even when set to 900+. I like this version more due to imo a more intuitive gui. The only thing missing is the auto focus/exposure adjust but starting the normal cam app first solves this.

I've been taking timelapse photos of a construction site going on next door to my work and have had made some pretty cool videos so far but its annoying I have to constantly keep an eye on it to restart it when it stops.

I'll post them up later on. :)

Keep up the great work tpaixao, this is a fantastic app you are building.

danx 2010-11-15 13:55

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
is this app goong to change my power kernel and void my warranty ?

smartypants 2010-11-15 20:56

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
this thread is like a timelaps, so slow.... lol

by the way, i think you voided your warranty when you installed power kernel.

Can I haz screenshots of app?

-s-

massradius 2010-12-01 02:28

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpaixao (Post 843804)
Hey guys and gals,

just to let you know that I'm listening and actively working on these issues. Right now I just finished implementing a couple of improvements:

1) there is now a small overlay to indicate that the timer is running

2) I disabled the animation control and it is set to off by default

3) and most importantly, Timelapse now turns off the sensor between shots to save power. This will probably need some controls because it is not worth the extra latency if you're only going to take a couple of shots or if the interval between the shots is extremely short. I still have to implement these controls, but that should be easy. This should address your complaints about power saving.

furthermore, I plan to add an option to skip saving the DNGs and just save JPEGs.

I would release this new version right now but, since I still want to implement these few things and, it's late and I don't feel like packaging right now, you'll have to wait a bit longer.

In the meanwhile, if you could give me your opinions on what kind of controls do you think are convenient for the "sensor off" setting, it would be appreciated. I'm thinking of a minimum number of shots to be taken and maybe a minimum interval between the shots.

Anyway, I just wanted to give you these updates.

Great news. I just came across this app today and was curious if the above changes are close to being implemented. I can't wait to use the app

massradius 2010-12-01 03:08

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Ended up going with timelapse-0,2 as timelapse-0.17 kept crashing on me. timelapse-0.17 looked really great though so if it's a little more stable this go around I'd be pumped

finlaybob 2010-12-10 16:12

Hi all,

Firstly I want to properly thank tpaixao, Ricardo for the original script, and anyone else involved for their time and effort, this program is one of the reasons i still hold my n900 dear.

I also wanted to post a first attempt at time lapse video!
It sucks a bit because there was too big an interval at the start, then my mate called me and i answered it. and i tried to get it back into position but failed, and made it a 2 minute gap between photos instead of 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBnv6B3NuI0

Im trying again today with a 1 minute gap, but the sun wasnt out today :( so may look horrible.

Saturn 2010-12-19 13:54

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by finlaybob (Post 894114)
Hi all,

Firstly I want to properly thank tpaixao, Ricardo for the original script, and anyone else involved for their time and effort, this program is one of the reasons i still hold my n900 dear.

I also wanted to post a first attempt at time lapse video!
It sucks a bit because there was too big an interval at the start, then my mate called me and i answered it. and i tried to get it back into position but failed, and made it a 2 minute gap between photos instead of 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBnv6B3NuI0

Im trying again today with a 1 minute gap, but the sun wasnt out today :( so may look horrible.

I saw the other two videos you posted in youtube. Nice results!!
What did you use to stich the pictures?

jaimex2 2010-12-19 14:11

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
I find Google's Picasa does the job well, it stitches the photos automatically in order and lets you control the fps nicely. I'll post some of the one ive made of a work site next door tomorrow. :)

slim1347 2010-12-19 14:58

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
just a quick comment, my old phone had a broken usb, was sent back in to nokia for repair which they ended up replacing, i had changed my power kernel and it did not affect my warranty, i dint even flash it back to the origional factory kernel before sending.:p

danx 2010-12-19 15:06

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
hello , just wanted to give the thumbs up on someone making a video on how to work this app ! installed it but don't know how it works? how to video would be nice

abuelmagd 2010-12-22 01:32

Re: A simple intervalometer for the N900 (time-lapse photography)
 
tpaixao, I noticed in the thread that before using the fcamera code you had a problem creating a .deb package that would install from the package manager without needing root privileges to install.

If you still have that problem or if anyone else is suffering from Qt Creator you should find the following link helpful:
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/H...and_Maemo_N900

The main issue is that the control file produced before it builds categorizes your program as <unknown>. The package manager wants your program to be of a known category like user/games or user/utilities in the case of your useful timelapse app. The link I posted should help correct the problem before you rebuild the package appropriately.


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