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Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

Speaking of, have you gotten applications run over SSH to display on the N900?

I know its doable and desktop Linux does it by default. However on the N900 it seems it may be disabled by default as it doesn't work and its hard finding information about how to get it working as hardly anyone seems to use that functionality any more.

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 440637)

When you run ssh, run it like "ssh -XY". You may want to throw in a "-C" for compression as well.

You may need to configure something on your server end too, but usually that does the trick (e.g. it works with default Debian lenny).

If it's not on a LAN, it's pretty slow though and VNC would be faster. I have some info about VNC here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#VNC

The *best* solution would be to use NX as it is much faster (less data transfer). There are some NX packages in extras-devel right now too (see qtnx).

Later,

-Jeff

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

iirc, there are two reasons why xorg shows a lot of ram used.

1. its reported ram includes any ram related to the graphics hardware.

2. xorg, rather then the individual program, manages the graphics of the programs thats running.

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

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Originally Posted by jebba (Post 440653)

Thanks, I guess I should have checked the ssh man page but I have been insanely thick lately.

The problem is I have been trying to do it without X forwarding, running the application on the server and telling it to output to the N900. I believe that should be a little faster over the LAN as it takes the encryption out of the picture. However there is not xhost command on the N900 so I can't tell it to allow the host a connection. I was thinking perhaps look for an Debian ARM version, but as I understood it usually its installed along with xorg itself which I do not want to risk breaking.

Its not vitally important, it just could be useful

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

KWrite ran beautifully over SSH, until I tried to type. I guess I hit the Nokia "lets fsck up the keyboard focus" issue. Its destroyed one of the big reasons I wanted the N900 in the first place, for X forwarding desktop apps.

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 441925)

easy-debian-chroot has a workaround for this issue now. So you can at least X11 forward properly from LXDE for now.

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

If I somehow manage to turn Hildon-desktop off as startup, what will I see? Will I be able to run X Terminal, at least (to turn Hildon back on with help of vi)?

P.S. You just said X.org provides GUI. So I can have GUI without Hildon-desktop, cannot I?

Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 440613)

Its sad, but reading this brought a smile to my face. :D

The idea of the horror on the faces of everyone who read this post.

Its kinda like going to a Windows forum and saying "you know explorer.exe is eating a lot of RAM, can I just delete it?". Not exactly the same thing (Windows would be much more easily recoverable than the N900) but still, its the kind of thing where everyone in the room in tandem goes "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the same time.

I did check though out of curiosity, if you had killed xorg it simply triggered a shutdown and safe reboot. Probably the safest course of action if it crashed for some reason. Now deleting it on the other hand, well I guess it would trigger the same but it would be an infinite reboot cycle.

Acctually you would be more screwed if you deleted Explorer.exe than Xorg. Though just closing them would render the same thing.. they restart.

Re: Xorg What is it and What does it Mean

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Re: Xorg: What is it, and what does it mean?

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