Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

can the n900 do anything properly? :S:S

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

While I have this ***** on ignore and cant actually read his post, I can only assume he is whining about the camera quality. With a little tweaking I have found the camera to be very satisfactory. I lowered the compression and play with the iso/exposure based on the lighting and 9 times out of 10 get both pictures and video of good quality.

Anyway the troll has done nothing all day but post either pointless or derrogatory threads so I dont expect this one to be much better.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I'm thinking a lot of these issues are in the Camera App and not the lens/sensor, and might get much better if/when the Camera App is updated. E.g.
- overly compressed files...this should be a user-configurable setting
- RAW...I'd prefer this to the seemingly obligatory JPEG
- user-interface...could use some tweaking, e.g. should not have to tap the "back arrow" to reset for the next picture, should just have to half-press the camera button, like most other cameras.
- more manual. Should certainly be feasible.
- shutter lag. Not sure where this is coming from, but it's reminiscent of my Canon G2 (circa 2001). I thought we were passed it by now with current processors.

Cheers!

Brad

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Today he started a thread called "The OrangeBox Blog aka No Sugarcoating Allowed":

after a mod merged this thread with some other orangebox thread he responded to the mods post with :

:D and he still not banned. unbelievable, isn't it?

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

The mods are more concerned with defending against the raging robot attack:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/files..._angleview.jpg

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Ban the troll?

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

orangebox is always so negative about the n900. why is this? maybe he is trying to fill the forums with negative posts so people dont buy the phone.

also, who tagged this as a sexually active topic? lol

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

The N900's camera does the job for me... and does it well.

Next topic please.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Considering I just used the N900 for our Christmas pics (yes we celebrate it early) it did a pretty good job of pics and video. Granted if my family was in low light areas and they moved alot the pictures would be blurry.

Why didn't I use a regular point and shoot? Because it's still with my mom in Vietnam. Besides I think the rest of my dad's side of family had enough of those.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

so if santa left orangebox an n900 in his stocking he would start comparing it to a lump of coal? I think he would probably be better off with a lump of coal. it might take better pictures......but he doesnt know cause he doesnt own one.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Most come out okay but certain lighting is bad like Christmas lights in low light. The wife prepping X-mas lights came out blurred :(
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5126/beelights2.jpg

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Quite sure. I always check for a green indicator before I take the picture.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I am satisfied with the n900 camera quality. I previously owned a n95 and e71. One thing I do not like about the n900 camera housing is that the back cover has the lens cover attached.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Apparently not as I find the N73 to have quite satisfactory quality. But judge for yourselves. These two images are taken in the same room under similar lighting conditions:

N900:

http://homes.ossman.eu/~drzeus/20091224_030.jpg

N73:

http://homes.ossman.eu/~drzeus/pict0104.jpg

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

useless thread.
i had both dslr and my n900... both had different uses.

no one with a sane mind uses a cel phone camera expecting dslr quality.

maybe you should create a thread with about your inability to fit a dslr in your pocket.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

can you upload unscaled version of the pictures?

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I think the topic should be don't expect miracles with the camera in low light. Camera works fine with enough light imo, after using my n95 anyway.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I'm a big fan of my (two :-) N900 - but the camera sucks in low light. And in focus speed. In fact, for mobile photography, I REALLY miss my N82 which had a superb camera; with the N900 I get the feeeling of a BIG step back in image quality in low light conditions. It a shame, really.
(Outdoor is ok)

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I'm afraid I don't have the original N73 image here. But the N900 can be fetched here at least:

http://homes.ossman.eu/~drzeus/20091224_030_full.jpg

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

The attached images provide no information about noise. What is apparent is that the exposure aprameters are different, the N73 flash fired stronger judging from the shadows. The N900 image is somewhat underexposed (tells nothing about the sensor) and has a slight blue haze as a result of the unfortunate backplate (again, tells nothing about the sensor).

If you want to show us the ridiculousness of N900 noise, take pictures under identical conditions, flash OFF, same ISO and then post the (unmodified) results here.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

The ppl complaining about the image quality should check their settings. N900 camera's default is set to widescreen 3.5 mpx and by switching to normal 5mpx you will notice the difference.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

That wouldn't improve quality. Just create more noise in low light pictures.

If you are getting lots of noise the best bet is to turn on some lights.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Fair enough. The problem might be from insufficient light and not with the sensor itself. But unless I want to start carrying around an extra flash, it doesn't really change much.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I'll be in my bunk.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytontullos/4209953916/

No editing / shared directly from camera.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I'm a getting really tired of people saying the n900 can't take pics as well as a £100 camera, as well as it not being able to handle calls as efficiently as any other phone or offer mms etc etc etc
Why the hell shouldn't it be able to do all of this perfectly competently?? Its the latest bit of kit that cost over £500. It flipping SHOULD be able to do all of this. Why are people on here making excuses for this thing??
It just should do it. ALL of it. Whats the point of putting a camera on if its not at least as good as something like the N95 8GB - which lets face it is 2 yrs old now?:rolleyes:

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I took 500+ photos on my N900 while in Egypt on holiday last week. I took man one handed. Hold the phone around the edges, thumb at the bottom, assuming your using your right hand, and the first two fingers at the top where the camera button is. It *is* annoying giving the phone to someone else to take a photo as they almost always hit the touchscreen and pull up photos taken. It would be nice if there were options for touch focus to make the touchscreen a little more useful when taking photos.

I love the quick and easy method of uploading to Flickr/Facebook/Pixelpipe, though I had some problems with Flickr via Pixelpipe. Only the first 100 or so photos appeared in the photostream. Here are the pics that posted:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44588940@N03/

I don't have a regular P&S camera. My other cameras are Nokia N82, Sony Ericsson K800i, Sony Ericsson W810i.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Very nice!

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

:D Guessing that's some kind of compliment.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I agree, outdoors is fine, indoors sucks. I hope also that the camera app gets more features in future releases.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Some kind. You must never have seen Firefly. :eek:

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Very nice! ;)

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

No sorry, never even heard of it

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

And you call yourself a geek!

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

My N900 performed very well during Christmas. Great looking photos, which were then immediately put on the flat screen TV. :)

Quality was unimpressive when compared to a DSLR, but for a phone or pocket camera, the N900 takes very good quality photos.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

I am a bit disappointed with the video, it drops frames when recording. I wonder why it does that.

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

You'll have to explain it to me I suppose. :(

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Firefly was awesome!.... Damn Fox for canceling such an excellent series!

Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 

Those bastards!!!

The series was followed by a movie loosely based on the series.