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JayMontano 2009-12-26 20:11
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
N900 is pretty good if lighting is sufficient. Greatly improved interface over previous Nseries (though lacking in certain camera feature options).

For taking photos of people (which I guess most general camera phone persons do) Xenon flash (like on the N82) would have greatly helped.

If you are familiar with the N82, (over two years old now, right?) you'd know that that's pretty much good enough to replace point and shoot cameras.

But N900 is the interim geek phone which Nokia aren't plowing too much resources into. I really hope they put Xenon into its successor.

sean231 2009-12-28 05:54
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
I guess its just me, but I'm not able to see any photos that I take with my N900 using the Photos app. I'm able to see them when I go to File Manager. Anyone have any idea of some settings that I'm supposed to do? I've chosen All Images as the folder to view.

Thor 2009-12-28 06:00
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sean231 (Post 443577)
I guess its just me, but I'm not able to see any photos that I take with my N900 using the Photos app. I'm able to see them when I go to File Manager. Anyone have any idea of some settings that I'm supposed to do? I've chosen All Images as the folder to view.
Try viewing "default camera folder".

Thor 2009-12-28 06:02
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayMontano (Post 442338)
N900 is pretty good if lighting is sufficient. Greatly improved interface over previous Nseries (though lacking in certain camera feature options).

For taking photos of people (which I guess most general camera phone persons do) Xenon flash (like on the N82) would have greatly helped.

If you are familiar with the N82, (over two years old now, right?) you'd know that that's pretty much good enough to replace point and shoot cameras.

But N900 is the interim geek phone which Nokia aren't plowing too much resources into. I really hope they put Xenon into its successor.
Having taken some indoor photos of my brother and his son yesterday, I agree that indoor photos are not good. They are obviously grainy. My N82 is much better as a camera. Why couldn't they have just used those settings/hardware/compression factors etc? And that's even before we take into account the battery-sapping xenon flash...

Outdoor photos in good light have been great so far though.

I've also found a problem of the flash firing even when I select no flash.

sean231 2009-12-28 22:17
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor (Post 443582)
Try viewing "default camera folder".
Tried doing that but to no avail. When I try to view the pictures; it takes me to All Images and I get a message saying "Retrieving information on the new media files. Estimated time remaining: xx:xx"
The estimated time goes anywhere from less than a minute to close to an hour; fluctuating in an absolutely random (for me) fashion. Anyone else face the same issue?:confused:

Bratag 2009-12-28 22:19
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor (Post 443584)
Having taken some indoor photos of my brother and his son yesterday, I agree that indoor photos are not good. They are obviously grainy. My N82 is much better as a camera. Why couldn't they have just used those settings/hardware/compression factors etc? And that's even before we take into account the battery-sapping xenon flash...

Outdoor photos in good light have been great so far though.

I've also found a problem of the flash firing even when I select no flash.
Play with the ISO level and exposure - for some reason the auto iso always goes very high in lower light levels - setting it manually to 100 for me results in much less grain and acceptable lighting - tweak the exposure a little and you can get very acceptable low light shots

TheLongshot 2009-12-28 22:32
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Yeah, my initial impression of the camera is mixed. I tried taking shots, but there were too much delays between fully depressing the shutter and it actually taking the picture. I also got some motion blur because of that.

That being said, the video function actually worked quite well in capturing my nephew's skit.

That being said, my wife's Moto Zine still wins out as far as camera phones go.

attila77 2009-12-29 16:47
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor (Post 443584)
Why couldn't they have just used those settings/hardware/compression factors etc? And that's even before we take into account the battery-sapping xenon flash...
Not quite feasible. The moment you change one component, the changes domino through the whole image processing chain. For starters, the video processing hardware is certainly different as it is part of the OMAP3 package.

Quote:
I've also found a problem of the flash firing even when I select no flash.
Make sure you're not confusing exposure flash with focus-assist.

andraeseus1 2010-04-28 23:43
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 444416)
Play with the ISO level and exposure - for some reason the auto iso always goes very high in lower light levels - setting it manually to 100 for me results in much less grain and acceptable lighting - tweak the exposure a little and you can get very acceptable low light shots
you can tweak and tweak all week till you cant speak and your n900 photos will stil be weak!!!!
this camera is trash and nokia wont lift a finger to change it cause it would be too expensive to come up with some kinda hardware change for every one who brought one

woodyear99 2010-04-28 23:57
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
You do know that there is a photo thread documenting photos taken by the N900, many of them are of acceptable quality. I don't quite agree that the camera is trash but to each is own.

Arrancamos 2010-04-29 03:12
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBox (Post 440798)
The N900 has a 6 out of 10 rating on my scale for indoor pictures. Most pictures I took ended up being fuzzy, overcompressed and grainy. At least red eye didn't seem to be a problem. Taking pictures with one hand is near impossible, because the slider either pops open ifI support the phone from the bottom with my thumb or if I support it from the back, the touch screen gets pushed.

Of course I knew that I should't expect more from the N900 in the camera department, I just wanted to inform people who would want to know the real thing and not sugar coated reviews: don't expect too much from the N900's camera.
hey mate, better buy this great cellphone device, bluetooth,18mpix camera controled by eyes, 800x600video,and really great productivity applications and works like an ipad... worth every $$$!! ALL IS PERFECT!
http://unmediated.org/images/20050316_eyemaxphonecam.jpg

Ossman 2010-04-29 05:23
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
I have to say, after playing around with the camera for a few months that I've started to warm up to it.

As long as you have sufficient lighting so that you don't get any sensor noise or that damn blue tint from the chrome, then the images are really nice.

I don't think I've ever seen a mobile camera that can get so sharp close-up pictures.

timwatt 2010-04-29 05:29
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodyear99 (Post 632385)
You do know that there is a photo thread documenting photos taken by the N900, many of them are of acceptable quality. I don't quite agree that the camera is trash but to each is own.
The photo quality is OK i am happy with it but the point of the post I agree with is - it is no camera replacement. I was hoping i could use it as a family camera and well you can but it is slow and impractical and doesn't meet expectations - the flash too is quite bad.

woodyear99 2010-04-29 05:46
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
When was this phone ever previewed or reviewed as a camera replacement? I wish the camera was better but at the same time I was not disappointed as I had read thru a good few previews back in December when I got mine. I did not set my expectations too high.

I think those looking for a camera phone that has above average picture quality need to look elsewhere.

geneven 2010-04-29 06:01
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Who has ever chosen their cell phone camera as the primary one?

How about a thread titled "Your N900 just won't do it for shooting
Avatar 2"?

Or "Electron microscope? FAIL N900!"

woodyear99 2010-04-29 17:24
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Oh and while it aint a primary camera replacement this thread clearly shows that it can take some half decent photos once there is proper lighting...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...837#post630837

mcdull 2010-04-29 17:55
Re: Don't count on N900 as your primary camera for Xmas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodyear99 (Post 632385)
You do know that there is a photo thread documenting photos taken by the N900, many of them are of acceptable quality. I don't quite agree that the camera is trash but to each is own.
I used N900 to take many pictures and posted on facebook and have impressed my friends many times.

Don't bother with the flash which will only upset the exposure and white balance, I always have the flash off. With a steady hand and non-moving objects, it can still take good pictures under not-too-low light.

I've compared pictures with Motorola Droid personally under different situations, N900 won hands down.

The N900 is the only carrying around "camera" I use and it serves me very well, the only other camera I have is Nikon D300s which of course I can't carry that in my pocket.


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