Re: POP3 email on N900
 

So is there a bug filed for the bit where the n900 locks the pop3 account? My version: 10.2010.19-1.203.1

I'm getting the an error message on the desktop about my pop3 account being locked/in-use (im using Evolution on Ubuntu 10.04) ?

It's odd because this never used to happen on my E71

cheers

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

don't really use pop3 but im *pretty* sure pop3 does only allow 1 access at a time, ie 2 or more devices cant connect simultaneously.

if its only email ur using, why not use IMAP, or speak to your admin and setup IMAPS on a secure port with a certificate, that allows your PC, phone, laptop etc etc all to connect simultaneously.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

I don't disagree with the fact that only 1 connection can be active *at any 1 time*, but i've never had this problem before (like i said with my E71).

Now i've just come across this: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5836

This is EXACTLY the symptom i'm experiencing. Could it be that this bug has been re-introduced ??

"netstat -at" shows a pop3 port with TCP ESTABLISHED

I do have poll every 15 minutes turned on, but it should drop the connection to the pop3 account right? It's a batch pull operation.
Could it be some apps or widgets in the background which basically keep the pop3 connection alive ??

hmm....

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

not sure mate

I stopped using my N900 because of the lack of real sync options

my best suggestion would be to use IMAP

who is your email hosted with ???

i do know if a pop connection is not closed cleanly (ie with the quit command) , it can take the server side 15+ minutes to terminate the session, which would throw up errors if any other client tried to connect in the meantime.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

(edited my last post seconds ago!)

Provider is GMX. I can confirm that when i turn the n900 off, im able to use my desktop pop3 without issue. I'm going to re-open the bug or comment at least.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

Hi mate

reading this

http://gmx.com/email-to-cell-phone.h...67C5.www-eu019

they DO support IMAP which at least will sync your emails, whilst not a proper sync solution, it will at least solve your multiple access problem, and give you the bonus of syncing emails. They may even support IMAP IDLE which is a sort of push email....i know the iphone supports this ...not sure about n900

but again.....IMAP is your answer.

in thinking you didnt have this prob with previous phone, what was the pop poll time...ie how often did your phone go and check for emails ??? ie every 30 min for example ???

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

The poll was 15 minutes both on desktop and E71 and n900.

Yes i have tried IMAP on the N900 a few hours before i started this thread. And again i think there was some (im going to bite the bullet) bug.

With IMAP what i was frequently seeing was a blank INBOX. Yes Blank.
It's almost random. I wouldn't get any mails listed until i physically hit "Send/Receive" sometimes. Is that one a known issue? Perhaps i'll start a different thread on that problem.

The reason why i don't like IMAP is because i don't like the thought of a live master list of emails. Once, I managed to wipe out my entire box of 100s of emails. with POP i get at least a 'copy' of mails locally which i do like.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

PS make sure you come back and let us all know how you get on

If there is something you don't understand, just ask, I will help as best I can, and im sure there are others too here will help

Together we will get there

Per Ardua ad Astra

GaryC

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

Thanks very much, it's great to see that this community does care. N900 is the best in its class for sure.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

*** ok Lets work through this.............

"The reason why i don't like IMAP is because i don't like the thought of a live master list of emails. Once, I managed to wipe out my entire box of 100s of emails. with POP i get at least a 'copy' of mails locally which i do like."

The simple solution is set your Desktop PC up with POP access (and a good backup plan, so docs/emails etc etc are all backed up...I can help you with this if you need help---seperate topic)

then set up laptops/phones use to IMAP

When you say "live master list of emails" there is really no such thing.

Most email clients (outlook express/outlook/thunderbird/evolution etc etc store a copy (cache) off *ALL* emails recieved so it is actually very difficult to *loose* emails

What you seem to be doing is basically "leave a copy on server" for n days....

"Once, I managed to wipe out my entire box of 100s of emails"

This is where a good backup plan comes into force.

BTW how exactly did you delete hundreds of email s, what did you do ?

PPS What operating system do you use and what eamil client do you ise on that ?

Gary

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

Hi Gary

Thanks for your help. I do use pop3 on desktop. Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 using Evolution. Emails are always left on the server. There are no options selected saying 'delete after x days'. I use the web interface of GMX to delete stuff 'permanently' as a precaution.

It's the not the OS or mailreaders as I use a number of OS (xp, vista, 7, linux various flavours), thunderbird, links/lynx, evolution. Mail setup is not an issue as such.

It was some random moment of stupidness where i selected delete all, forgetting that IMAP was enabled. It removed everything in the inbox on GMX. And the desktop evolution hadn't fetched those items because i didn't enable autorefresh (...back in the day and we learn fast!).

I will try IMAP now. Overnight, i just observed that no new emails appeared in my N900. Until i hit Send & Receive manually. The auto refresh didn't work for some reason even though wifi was on all night. Getting deja vu here (on my E71).

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

"I do use pop3 on desktop. Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 using Evolution"

Me too and it works flawlessly for me, and it has the really nice touch that all my appointments show up in the calendar when i click on the system clock in the tray

dont have my n900 or ubuntu laptop with me, but im sure there should be a setting on the N900 telling it to check for mail every x minutes

as ffor

"It was some random moment of stupidness where i selected delete all, forgetting that IMAP was enabled. It removed everything in the inbox on GMX."

the good point of this is if you set up imap on all your devices, and delete a junk message say from your phone, it will be deleted from all other devices as well.

when they are deleted, they are not permanently deleted, they do into the imap deleted folder, so should still have been easy to recover. (this is a different trash can from your local one...they deleted stuff wont appear in there)

but then again this *is* the n900 we are talking about, so maybe not :D

if you feel unsure what do do, set up a free test gmx account and use it for testing, setting it up for imap access on both the phone and evolution, im sure you will find it will work a treat.

Let me know if you need a hand setting up evolution for IMAP

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

can anybody tell me whether you're still experiencing problems?

Sometimes deleting an email from a N900 POP3 email account, also deletes it from the server. Not always though.

Never does deleting an already synched item from the server also get deleted from the N900 on next synch.

Understand that not acknowledging read/unread from the server and sending to the server's sent folder isn't an error. Sadly by design.

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

@itambrose
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56634

Re: POP3 email on N900
 

hi i was hoping you could give the setting i need to set up the gmx e-mail account, thanks