WiMax confirmed
 

I was in a completely non-770 mode, reading through the day's incoming industry junk mail on my office PC, when BAM!!, what do I read?

Nokia has made a commitment to "develop and market WiMAX-enabled mobile devices in significant volumes, including multimedia computers and Internet tablets."

sweet...

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...98&newsLang=en

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Possibly with open APIs and a Google portal of some sort according to the link. I am really looking forward to the next tablet with WiMax. But "mobile internet device" is an Intel developer's buzzword so there may be significant competition by the time this happens...

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...62&newsLang=en

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Ari Jaaksi has already said WiMax was on the roadmap, so why is this news?

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maybe the post has a countdown for posting date :-)

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There are new details. And for those in the US, the WiMax IT is heavily dependent on the Sprint/Clearwire network rollout. btw, Ari is great, but he has ittle input into Nokia's WiMax strategy and is TOLD if and when the WiMax version of tablet will go.

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Based upon past experience working with Sprint in the WAN arena, Sprint = Epic Phail.
I mean, c'mon, the US hasn't even gotten up to speed with HSDPA like Europe/Asia has, with only one carrier (AT&T) having it right now in "selected" markets (read: about 17 cities/metros with populations of 1 million or more).
Then you have Qualcomm pulling stupid stunts [url=http://thejournal.com/articles/20419]like this[/i] instead of really pushing for true GSM 3G or WiMax across the board with all carriers.
I would expect WiMax to be more heavily rolled out in Europe and Asia before it even comes close to being real-world usable in the US.
I lived overseas for more than 13 years and even when staring at a herd of camels on the border of Iraq and Kuwait I had full 3g HSDPA access!
Then I come home to a wirelessly-crippled country. Ugh.

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Yeah america sucks big time in mobile phone carriers and mobile phones..

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The FCC has been screwing the US for years... all to ensure that the status quo maintains its inertia...

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I'm a little green when it comes to the internal workings of this..what actually is the "status quo"?

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The current modus operandi for US carriers.

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Lets not forget rolling out anything in the US is a large undertaking that cost billions for services most people wouldn't use. For some countries smaller than Texas of course the can continuously upgrade there networks to the latest and greatest since it requires little capitol. Most people don't realize the amount of cell towers in the US lining freeways in the middle of nowhere. Should those support 3G so we can use Maemo Mapper in the middle of Kansas surrounded by corn fields? Don't answer....

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That is true. Modern infrastructure was easier in areas where tin cans and string had been deployed... ;)

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lol..great answer. What is the current "modus operandi"?

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Meh, it was a broad declarative. I was rolling up the current state of affairs vis-a-vis US communications infrastructure and practices.

But basically I'm referring to the inertia (not to mention irony) of protecting an existing revenue stream at the expense of advancing your next likely source of revenue. Shortsightedly stupid, yes, but we do it-- and the FCC has been supporting that... along with allowing increasing consolidation among service and media providers. It's hard for wifi and wimax to gain a foothold in the US while we are still so beholden to "legacy" tech. However, I see radio bandwidth as an area of The Commons and think that, instead of auctioning it off and rationing it out, this is one area where the federal government should manage the communications spectrum much more than it does. That includes providing at least some of the funding and tax incentives for new infrastructure.

See, I knew breaking that down would be messy. I'm rambling...

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Obviously you didn't read my post about other countries deploying it EVERYWHERE within their own borders.
Your argument is that America is too BIG? That's an insane argument.
The real problem is that the carriers only deploy to tiny markets (i.e. 17 cities) and expect EVERYONE there to suddenly jump on an overpriced service.
Not going to happen.
And for your information, even FARMERS in the middle of nowhere use state-of-the-art closed computer systems for weather forecasting, news, and keeping up with the current markets, usually via satellite.
By the way, I'm currently in Kansas. In a county that had not one but TWO cities listed in the top twenty out of 100 best cities to live in. It's also one of the fastest growing population centers in the United States, and a central hub for shipping via air/ground/rail due to it's centralized location. The lowest job offer I've gotten here is for $70,000. There really isn't a "middle of nowhere" in Kansas anymore.
Even the damn tractors are computerized now and decked out with amenities once found only in mobile homes (cell phone charging stand, TV, sat radio, etc.).
So yeah, it's pretty ****ing stupid to insult the very-much-into-high-tech folks who help put food on your plate.
But everyone around here is still stuck with EDGE or EV-DO.
Another reason for the US falling behind the rest of the planet is due to the FCC bending under pressure by US carriers and handset manufacturers (looking at YOU Motorola!) to NOT use the standard GSM frequencies in use around the rest of hte world. Nooooo, the US has to go their "own" way and use different bands, giving the local manufacturers a leg up, pretty much bailing them out since they would have quickly gone out of business had Nokia/Samsung been able to bring to market just ONE version of every model instead of two - one for the US, the other for everyone else.

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Correct. One only needs to look at Nokia's crippling of the E61 just for the U.S. market to see that.
They removed wi-fi functionality from it and the carrier sold it pretty much for the EXACT same price as the non-crippled version.
But that CAN backfire, as evidenced in the U.K. where Vodafone had their lunch eaten by OFCOM due to their "crippling" the Nokia N95 they sold by removing VoIP functionality in the firmware.
The big problem is that Americans are just too damn lazy and won't speak up and DEMAND better from their carriers via their congressman/senator.
But in the end it doesn't matter how big of a campaign warchest you have (read: donations from carriers) no one is going to vote for you if you're NOT looking out for their best interests.

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PLEASE do not hijack the thread. :( :(

Take your non-WiMax related comments elsewhere.

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Egal.
This has everything to do with WiMax, especially concerning one of the most lucrative markets for future Nokia WiMax-enabled products.

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There was no hijacking. All of the posts are relevant to the topic... except that one and this one. :rolleyes:

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I think you missed my point... A carrier (and I don't work for one) when making business decisions you have to make sound ones because of capitalism and publicly traded companies you have to return a profit in the short run. I'm just stating facts of business in the US. Is this right for the customer no, but looks good on paper.

Rural communities will almost always be left out of the conversation when it comes to high-speed networks whether it is cellular or cable. Unless it's subsidized by the government. I'm not saying farmers aren't technology literate, but how do you reach "everyone". The answer is you don't you use the 80/20 rule. Because us "geeks" want 3G and/or 4G everywhere and pay $20 a month for it will never make a sound business decision until you have a critical mass of people. You do that by starting in very controlled markets with high population densities or usage patterns that make such a capital expense make sense.

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stupid jerks :mad:

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And that^ one

BTW, this is really old news that was announced even before the N800 dropped...

January 2007

By the end of this year Sprint plans to have WiMax up in 3 metro areas and has struck simular deals with /\/\otorola and Samsung. Each will have a test market area. Nokia plans to be up begining 2008 in the Texas market.

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???

Is there something in the air today? No wimax, that's for sure. :rolleyes:

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As a matter of fact 2, US WiMax items in the air...


Dig upon >>this<<

and...

>>here<<

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YoDude,

I posted the January PR as well, and it got lost in the excitement when the N800 was released. Good to see the Sprint WiMax buildout likely going as scheduled, as the WiMax IT is dependent on it. Nokia is also building out the West Coast WiMax network sites as well as the ones in TX.

SD69

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my 0,000000001 cents

If we observe how it all started, in the Nordic countries, in the 80s, it was too expensive to build lines to supply telephone networks in the Northern part: density reached a near zero inhab / km2. But the Nordic societies have a cult for equality and modernity, so the States decided to invest in building the networks. It was very easy: at this time, all the teleoperators were public, and I think not even companies but extension of the public administration: the people did not have a word to say, and boom, nmt network was up and running. First devices were made by eletrical equipment local companies. Such as Nokia, a conglomerate supplying among other things electric cable and rubber (needed for the cable), but also rubber boots!

If it had to be a private investment decision, sure no one would have accepted to wait 15 years to see a net return. And players involved in competing technologies are trying to brake on as much as they can. As natural as the brake on electric cars.

I guess this is the issue with Wimax. Furthermore, teleoperators can see their business model collapse if a critical size of users stop spending on calls and use VOIP on long range wimax connection.