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sorodoros 2010-01-28 17:46

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
So why is flash disabled by default?

hectorh82 2010-01-28 18:08

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
come on its new lol.. sheesh people are so critical haha.. thats why you test it and if you dont like it remove it haha

hectorh82 2010-01-28 18:08

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flash takes time to load certain pages so it slows it down.. no flash faster download of the page.

jsbigs 2010-01-28 18:16

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
I re-installed this yesterday as everyone was getting so excited and indeed it was a bit faster. But today they pushed out another Mozilla Runtime update that completely breaks Firefox's functionality. What gives? IMO, this should be in Extras-Devel or Extras-Testing, especially if an update breaks it.

Milhouse 2010-01-28 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbigs (Post 499785)
I re-installed this yesterday as everyone was getting so excited and indeed it was a bit faster. But today they pushed out another Mozilla Runtime update that completely breaks Firefox's functionality. What gives? IMO, this should be in Extras-Devel or Extras-Testing, especially if an update breaks it.

I'm on nightlies, and with the latest 20100128 runtime it wouldn't start for me, so I uninstalled Firefox (which had the orange Firefox logo) and went to reinstall Firefox but could only find Fennec 20100128 (with the blue Fennec logo) so I installed that and now it's working again but I can't say I'm that impressed by the speed.

Firefox/Fennec RC1 is in a Mozilla hosted repository, and since it's not actually released yet (it's marked as "Beta" on www.mozilla.com/mobile/) if you didn't want to help with the testing you shouldn't have installed it! :)

sorodoros 2010-01-28 19:00

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
I believe the one I downloaded this morning was RC3.

Milhouse 2010-01-28 19:12

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 499834)
I believe the one I downloaded this morning was RC3.

This is the repository from where Fennec/XulRunner is pulled when you follow the "Beta" link on http://www.mozilla.com/mobile/ - no RC3, just a mixture of RC1 and non-RC1 debs.

And this is the nightly repository - again no RC3 (or even RC1).

jsbigs 2010-01-28 19:12

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499826)
I'm on nightlies, and with the latest 20100128 runtime it wouldn't start for me, so I uninstalled Firefox (which had the orange Firefox logo) and went to reinstall Firefox but could only find Fennec 20100128 (with the blue Fennec logo) so I installed that and now it's working again but I can't say I'm that impressed by the speed.

Firefox/Fennec RC1 is in a Mozilla hosted repository, and since it's not actually released yet (it's marked as "Beta" on www.mozilla.com/mobile/) if you didn't want to help with the testing you shouldn't have installed it! :)

I stand corrected about its repository location, BUT, how can I test it if it won't even run?

Milhouse 2010-01-28 19:19

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbigs (Post 499851)
I stand corrected about its repository location, BUT, how can I test it if it won't even run?

Have you reinstalled the main application (Firefox or Fennec, whatever it's called on your device)? My guess is that you have a version of Firefox/Fennec on your device that isn't compatible with the latest runtime.

sorodoros 2010-01-28 19:25

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499826)
I'm on nightlies, and with the latest 20100128 runtime it wouldn't start for me, so I uninstalled Firefox (which had the orange Firefox logo) and went to reinstall Firefox but could only find Fennec 20100128 (with the blue Fennec logo) so I installed that and now it's working again but I can't say I'm that impressed by the speed.

Firefox/Fennec RC1 is in a Mozilla hosted repository, and since it's not actually released yet (it's marked as "Beta" on www.mozilla.com/mobile/) if you didn't want to help with the testing you shouldn't have installed it! :)

Maybe it was the runtime version rc3? Ino it i saw it somewhere.

sorodoros 2010-01-28 19:27

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
FastestScrollInTheWest add-on is pretty slick. Gets you to top or bottom of page pretty fast.

Really need something like it for microB

jsbigs 2010-01-28 19:47

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499861)
Have you reinstalled the main application (Firefox or Fennec, whatever it's called on your device)? My guess is that you have a version of Firefox/Fennec on your device that isn't compatible with the latest runtime.

I've installed it today both from the repository and from http://www.firefox.com/m, having removed the app and Mozilla Runtime prior to installation in both cases. Still no functionality. It was working yesterday with Mozilla Runtime (something)RC1, but today, when I updated Mozilla Runtime to 1.9.2.2pre-20100128011217 it ceased working. This happened about two weeks ago as well after four days of MR updates, each one providing no funtionality. It was after this I removed the app for 10 days or so until yesterday's "excitement".

sorodoros 2010-01-28 19:52

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499850)
This is the repository from where Fennec/XulRunner is pulled when you follow the "Beta" link on http://www.mozilla.com/mobile/ - no RC3, just a mixture of RC1 and non-RC1 debs.

And this is the nightly repository - again no RC3 (or even RC1).

RC3 was released today. There are three articles on top in maemo.org/news. The reason flash is disabled is because it "degrades performance," according to Mozilla. Don't know about the repos, but it does seem I downloaded RC3.

stlpaul 2010-01-28 19:55

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rc3 is still too slow for me (19 seconds to open the program completely on my N900), and without flash is useless on many sites.

It seems the only compelling reason to use it instead of microb is if you are a Weave user (and don't need flash).

That being said the devs are doing a great job it has definitely improved a lot in recent weeks. I look forward to seeing where the authors take it in the future.

Milhouse 2010-01-28 20:06

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 499926)
RC3 was released today. There are three articles on top in maemo.org/news. The reason flash is disabled is because it "degrades performance," according to Mozilla. Don't know about the repos, but it does seem I downloaded RC3.

What they're calling RC3 then is whatever is in the standard release repository (http://moff.mozilla.com/dists/chinoo.../binary-armel/) - no RC3 there, but there is an RC1 for xulrunner and a Fennec 1.0.0 deb, all from 26 Jan.

The nightly build is up to date (28 Jan) and uses a later version of xulrunner, and the Fennec deb is different too.

Nightly Installer

phreck 2010-01-28 21:30

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
[QUOTE=Milhouse;499953]What they're calling RC3 then is whatever is in the standard release repository (http://moff.mozilla.com/dists/chinoo.../binary-armel/) - no RC3 there, but there is an RC1 for xulrunner and a Fennec 1.0.0 deb, all from 26 Jan.

The nightly build is up to date (28 Jan) and uses a later version of xulrunner, and the Fennec deb is different too.

Nightly Installer[/QUOTE

good info , thanks

horus 2010-01-28 21:42

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It would be nice if you could use the arrow keys to scroll down like MicroB. Next version perhaps.

phreck 2010-01-28 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by horus (Post 500086)
It would be nice if you could use the arrow keys to scroll down like MicroB. Next version perhaps.

You actually can, however ive noticed that its hit and miss when it works, also it is more akin to scrolling on a computer, it scrolls a couple lines at a time. I think they should make it more like MicroB as well.

radiowc 2010-01-28 21:45

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Still not able to watch some flash video like WWE :)

notnarb 2010-01-29 04:48

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Lucky for me, today my desktop's flash plugin brought my web browsers to a screeching halt and for the past 4 hours, I've been using my n810, which handles the new version of fennec beautifully. Still hangs occasionally, but no full-on crashes. Not as quick as tear, but certainly acceptable, especially with the ui which is such a joy to use. Also - plugins!

qhorse 2010-01-29 09:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by torshind (Post 448733)
MicroB is vastly superior to Firefox Mobile RC1. IMO the best feature of Firefox is the addon install interface. I tried the Shareaholic addon but I was unable to use it. The button in the main window and the option button in the settings pane don't do anything. I'm a bit disappointed...

Same here...

Also wished we could directly put a bookmark to the desktop.

rincic83 2010-01-29 10:45

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Ya....I got this on,, but I cant zoom in likne on build in browswe, but I like those side menus :D :D

GID123 2010-01-29 11:05

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
it's slow and no portrait mode...however it let's me use "Logmein" unlike
the native browser..still needs a few improvement.

bulelet 2010-01-29 11:23

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
yeah. after i tried firefox for the n900 for 3 minutes i just gave up. firefox has good ideas in it but its just not working very well. too laggy. 2 click zoom in. if it speeds up like the default browser then maybe i would give it another try. but the default browser has almost all the good stuff in it.

araavi 2010-01-29 11:54

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
I found few shortcuts in firefox.

Ctrl + Up arrow to zoom in
Ctrl + Down arrow to zoom out
Shift + Up arrow to page up
Shift + Down arrow to page down

I am still investigating other shortcuts :)

coosbaytv 2010-01-29 14:47

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
torshind: I am using Sharaholic with Fennec RC3 on my n810 and love it!

jsbigs 2010-01-29 19:41

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Mozilla Runtime update 1.9.2.2pre-20100129011131, pushed out today, did not restore functionality to Firefox on my N900.

mfortner 2010-01-29 20:22

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Firefox died after the update on my N810 as well. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling twice now. Installing from the Mozilla page did not help either.

pavlov 2010-01-29 20:53

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 501572)
Firefox died after the update on my N810 as well. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling twice now. Installing from the Mozilla page did not help either.

It sounds like you've got the nightly repository installed as well as the RC one. Right now the nightly has a newer xulrunner (Mozilla Runtime) package but an older Fennec package (as far as debian versioning goes) -- Should be fixed in the next day or two. Please check and make sure you're only using one repository in the application manager.

horus 2010-01-29 20:57

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phreck (Post 500090)
You actually can, however ive noticed that its hit and miss when it works, also it is more akin to scrolling on a computer, it scrolls a couple lines at a time. I think they should make it more like MicroB as well.

After mashing the buttons alot I see it does actually work! Thanks!
Not the greatest implementation though, rather choppy

Milhouse 2010-01-29 21:01

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbigs (Post 501518)
Mozilla Runtime update 1.9.2.2pre-20100129011131, pushed out today, did not restore functionality to Firefox on my N900.

There was a Fennec-1.0~20100129013335 update today too (from the nightly repository).

mfortner 2010-01-29 23:31

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
I have tried uninstalling Firefox through the app manager. I don't see the Mozilla Runtime in the installed apps list. Is there a command for a package removal I can run to get me back to where I can reinstall ?

stlpaul 2010-01-30 06:48

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
Now 1.0 is out officially:

http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2010/01...now-available/

And YouTube add-on to enable flash on that site only:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/addon/67650

joshua.maverick 2010-02-01 07:35

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
I installed a nightly build with xulrunner armel. Now the new ff won't install, what should I do?

www.rzr.online.fr 2010-02-01 10:25

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
This makes me think, I'll have to try to port the flashblock package to maemo, any volunteers for testing ?
--
http://rzr.online.fr/q/flashblock

M|ch 2010-02-01 15:16

Re: Firefox Browser is out!!!!
 
i got a problem with firefox
i tried download it gave me 12.8 mb left , then it stopped at 10.5
and it gave me : unable to install firefox installation file corrupted,
then i tried to redownload it gave me a bar of 2.27mb left then when it starts again it says unable to install fireforx installation file corrupted.

what to do : (


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