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magellan94 2010-03-20 10:09
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Banana (Post 573658)
One might have a hard time creating the ".navit" folder because it starts with a "." in the windows explorer (At least i can't under XP, dunno about Vista or 7).

You can create the ".navit" folder as follows (this example assumes that the n900 mass storage drive letter is j):
Start->Run
type cmd and press enter
Code:
j:
mkdir ".navit"
If you execute the app for a first time, it i'll creat by itself this folder.
I've forgot this step, i include this into the tutorial.

But you're right: the Win file system doesn't allow to create folder with a point into the name.

jacedaface 2010-03-22 17:49
Re: Navit on N900
 
Hey Magellan94 thanks for the guide!

I installed Navit last night. However at the end of the install in xterminal did say error, although the program is install and will load. I think i may have done somthing incorrect it does seem to crash all the time.

So i have all the .deb/map.bin and map XLM files in the "navit_maps" folder.

then the navit/OSD and speech XML files in the ".navit" folder?

Thanks once again!

EDIT:

Ok so it appears i have fixed the crashing problem i went into xterminal and installed navit again over the top and so far no crashing. i was lucky if i got past 3mins without crashing last night.

Now the icon is no longer there so i have to lunch from xterminal everytime?

Also when searching a destination a lot of places roads towns... that i know exist do not seem to show up?

magellan94 2010-03-23 09:33
Re: Navit on N900
 
Try to reboot the terminal. It happens that the icon is not shown immediatly. I've seen this issue with few apps, and that with no logical rule about where this app came from! So... you know what you must do :D

debrezdiener 2010-03-23 10:56
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by magellan94 (Post 573419)
Any errors in my tutorial? Tell me, i'll modify it!
Hi, thanks for the tutorial.

Worked well for me, only one additional action for me was to install espeak and it's dependencies.

Regards debrez

magellan94 2010-03-23 12:52
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debrezdiener (Post 578454)
Hi, thanks for the tutorial.

Worked well for me, only one additional action for me was to install espeak and it's dependencies.

Regards debrez
Ok: i add it to the tutorial!

svalavuo 2010-03-23 13:38
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 白い熊 (Post 573685)
Anyone also experience the glitch that car-dark starts as the layout when running Navit on the N900 (the screen is very dark), I had to manually select car everytime I'd start. So much so that I had to remove the car-dark layout definition from navit.xml, so it would start with the car layout.

Even though car should be normally selected by default as it's the first layout in navit.xml

Anyone else had this behavior?
I have the exactly same behaving with navit.
Can be quite annoying.

mehr 2010-03-23 16:15
Re: Navit on N900
 
Ok my start seems to dodgy. When I run the exterminal at the first point. I get the following information, I dont know whether its right or wrong. Thanks

librsvg2-common is not available but is referred to by another package.

this may mean that the package is missing or only available for another source.

librsvg2-common has no installation candidate.

gnasgame3 2010-03-23 17:23
Re: Navit on N900
 
runnubg navit with espeak , anyone has some video

debrezdiener 2010-03-23 18:54
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mehr (Post 578959)
Ok my start seems to dodgy. When I run the exterminal at the first point. I get the following information, I dont know whether its right or wrong. Thanks

librsvg2-common is not available but is referred to by another package.

this may mean that the package is missing or only available for another source.

librsvg2-common has no installation candidate.
For me that looks if extra devel or extra testing repos are not activated.

Please read carefully in the wiki before activating them ;-)

Regards debrez

mehr 2010-03-23 19:35
Re: Navit on N900
 
Cheers mate

Quote:
Originally Posted by debrezdiener (Post 579190)
For me that looks if extra devel or extra testing repos are not activated.

Please read carefully in the wiki before activating them ;-)

Regards debrez

debrezdiener 2010-03-23 20:40
Re: Navit on N900
 
For the issue of car-dark layout chosen at startup, the navit wiki says, that the sequence of the profiles defined in navit.xml is responsible for the activated option at startup.

Strange is that I experienced also the car-dark layout, but not on every startupt of the program. I will see if I can get a reproducable behaviour and the check the order of the car profiles in navit.xml.

I tested the actual version maggelan94 did the nice tutorial for. For me it works very well, did a few drives around my town. At the moment it seems to run only if started from xterm, if I start from menu it crashes after a few minutes (as reported even with past versions)

When I have my car mount, I will do more tests.At the moment it seems to be a good choice when you need turn-by-turn navigation.

One thing I miss at the moment is the missing possibility to choose house numbers. Anyone knows if this is a map issue?

I use a european OSM map



Regards debrez

白い熊 2010-03-23 21:58
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debrezdiener (Post 579314)
One thing I miss at the moment is the missing possibility to choose house numbers. Anyone knows if this is a map issue?
It's a map issue, for many cities you have many streets with house maps in OSM already. For many no house numbers.

Go ahead and contribute to OSM, get OSM2Go on the N900, or edit on the PC, and input house numbers for streets you know, so we all make it better.

mehr 2010-03-23 22:35
Re: Navit on N900
 
hey when you say

dpkg -i /home/user/MyDocs/navit_maps/navit*.deb

where that navit*.deb come from coz all we had was those five files. I get the error file not found.

Also when I changed the name of one of the file to navit*.deb and then tried to run, i still got the same error. Any help please. Thanks

[/QUOTE]

9) Install the program
Open a Xterminal, then tape these lines
Code:
sudo gainroot
dpkg -i /path/to/navit*.deb
In my example, i've putted the files into the "navit_maps" folder, (by copying these files when my device was connected in mass storage mode)
So the shell has to be like this:
Code:
sudo gainroot
dpkg -i /home/user/MyDocs/navit_maps/navit*.deb
Then wait... a litte bit. If the soft ask something, let all by default and answer like the default value shown.

[/QUOTE]

debrezdiener 2010-03-24 06:45
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mehr (Post 579453)
hey when you say

dpkg -i /home/user/MyDocs/navit_maps/navit*.deb

where that navit*.deb come from coz all we had was those five files. I get the error file not found.

Also when I changed the name of one of the file to navit*.deb and then tried to run, i still got the same error. Any help please. Thanks
...
...
...
Hi,

with the "*" in the command it's used as a wildcard. Means if you have the five files from the zip as shown below, the wildcard installs all *.deb-files. Otherwise you have to fire up five commands instead of one.

Code:
navit-data_0.2.0~svn3048maemo_all.deb
navit-graphics-gtk-drawing-area_0.2.0~svn3048maemo_armel.deb
navit-gui-gtk_0.2.0~svn3048maemo_armel.deb
navit-gui-internal_0.2.0~svn3048maemo_armel.deb
navit_0.2.0~svn3048maemo_armel.deb
For the 'file not found'-error I assume, that you did not copy the deb files to the location you used in the command.

Please take the files from the Navit-svn3048.zip and change your directory in commandline to this location.

You can do this with command "cd /home/user/locationtodebfiles".

Then use

Code:
dpkg -i navit*.deb
to install the five debs.

Hope this helps, commandline is always a bit tricky at the beginning *gg*

Regards debrez

magellan94 2010-03-24 09:55
Re: Navit on N900
 
tutorial udpated to explain the "*" system when launching the .deb installation!

magellan94 2010-03-24 13:58
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by debrezdiener (Post 579314)
For the issue of car-dark layout chosen at startup, the navit wiki says, that the sequence of the profiles defined in navit.xml is responsible for the activated option at startup.

Strange is that I experienced also the car-dark layout, but not on every startupt of the program. I will see if I can get a reproducable behaviour and the check the order of the car profiles in navit.xml.

I tested the actual version maggelan94 did the nice tutorial for. For me it works very well, did a few drives around my town. At the moment it seems to run only if started from xterm, if I start from menu it crashes after a few minutes (as reported even with past versions)

When I have my car mount, I will do more tests.At the moment it seems to be a good choice when you need turn-by-turn navigation.

One thing I miss at the moment is the missing possibility to choose house numbers. Anyone knows if this is a map issue?

I use a european OSM map



Regards debrez
Thanks :o Happy to help the community!

willem43 2010-03-25 09:06
Re: Navit on N900
 
[/CODE]
2) Create the folder under Xterminal
Open the Xterminal
And type:
Code:
cd /home/users/
mkdir .navit
should be cd /home/user/

willem43 2010-03-25 09:24
Re: Navit on N900
 
Yes, installation of the update works fine. Thanks.

The map loads good.

However, if I choose a destination, and ask to calculate the route, the program ends suddenly.

Is it possible to make a similar tutorial to install the garmin-driver ?

hara 2010-03-25 11:31
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by willem43 (Post 581526)
Yes, installation of the update works fine. Thanks.

The map loads good.

However, if I choose a destination, and ask to calculate the route, the program ends suddenly.

Is it possible to make a similar tutorial to install the garmin-driver ?
garmin driver is inbuilt. you need to enable it in maps.xml

willem43 2010-03-25 16:46
Re: Navit on N900
 
Ok. I have enabled garmin maps in maps.xml; OSM maps are enabled as well. In navit - settings I can choose between the two maps. The path to the garmin map set is correct.
The map set consists of lots of small maps (*.img), a basemap.img, and a file product.tdb. The path is directed towards the basemap.img file.
(/home/user/navit_maps/basemap.img)

Osm maps are working perfectly.
In navit I disabled OSM maps, and enabled the garmin maps, but no map becomes visible.

I have tested the same mapset in QLandkarte GT, where it works perfectly.

What am I doing wrong ?

hara 2010-03-25 17:34
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by willem43 (Post 582080)
Ok. I have enabled garmin maps in maps.xml; OSM maps are enabled as well. In navit - settings I can choose between the two maps. The path to the garmin map set is correct.
The map set consists of lots of small maps (*.img), a basemap.img, and a file product.tdb. The path is directed towards the basemap.img file.
(/home/user/navit_maps/basemap.img)

Osm maps are working perfectly.
In navit I disabled OSM maps, and enabled the garmin maps, but no map becomes visible.

I have tested the same mapset in QLandkarte GT, where it works perfectly.

What am I doing wrong ?
Absolutely no idea. I haven't gotten any garmin map to work with navit.

willem43 2010-03-25 17:34
Re: Navit on N900
 
Disabling the OSMap in maps.xml resulted in the garmin basemap showing in navit. So that's a first result. Zooming in however did not produce maps in more detail. Probably product.tdb is needed , but I do not know to get it working.

magellan94 2010-03-26 10:50
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by willem43 (Post 581511)
[/CODE]
2) Create the folder under Xterminal
Open the Xterminal
And type:
Code:
cd /home/users/
mkdir .navit
should be cd /home/user/
Tutorial corrected!
Thx!

legoman666 2010-03-26 12:36
Re: Navit on N900
 
Am I really supposed to read a 31 page thread to figure this out?

hara 2010-03-26 14:19
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 583122)
Am I really supposed to read a 31 page thread to figure this out?
Umm, sure if you like. But I suggest you take a look at magellan94's tutorial found in this thread and navit wiki. Or, buy Sygic Mobile Maps.

Helmuth 2010-03-26 14:57
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 583122)
Am I really supposed to read a 31 page thread to figure this out?
You can set the posts per page to 40 in your profile. For me this thread has only 8 Pages! ;)

SubCore 2010-03-26 15:04
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 583122)
Am I really supposed to read a 31 page thread to figure this out?
right at the top of the thread table, there's this little thing called "search thread".
great stuff, you should try it.

legoman666 2010-03-26 16:06
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 583337)
right at the top of the thread table, there's this little thing called "search thread".
great stuff, you should try it.
Really? Wow, thanks!

magellan94 2010-03-29 08:34
Re: Navit on N900
 
Here's my tutorial:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=275

arne.anka 2010-03-29 21:31
Re: Navit on N900
 
any chance, those who succeeded _building_ navit from source could describe in detail, what they did?

i am fighting with automake as others did and face the same issues already asked for -- without any answers so far.

additionally, i have a hard time to understand why navit on maemo is such a hassle (simply dies after about 2 minutes w/o segfault or something) when it works well (though not that fast) on the freerunner with shr or debian.
i'd expected it to work fast and reliable on the n900.

hara 2010-03-29 23:55
Re: Navit on N900
 
Hi

Compiling navit for n900 needs quite a bit of hacking.

I cannot figure why navit doesn't run for most people more than 2 minutes. I have had it successfully running on a 86km trip without crashing. Since then I have lost interest in navit, as I bought Sygic mobile maps for N900. I might update the package sometime. Currently all my free time goes in fixing my motorcycle.

andre3 2010-03-30 02:40
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hara (Post 587470)
Hi

Compiling navit for n900 needs quite a bit of hacking.

I cannot figure why navit doesn't run for most people more than 2 minutes. I have had it successfully running on a 86km trip without crashing. Since then I have lost interest in navit, as I bought Sygic mobile maps for N900. I might update the package sometime. Currently all my free time goes in fixing my motorcycle.
Fix that cycle for the summer haha lol I hope to get my nokia n900 tomorrow, I am so excited.... :p

magellan94 2010-03-30 08:36
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hara (Post 587470)
Hi

Compiling navit for n900 needs quite a bit of hacking.

I cannot figure why navit doesn't run for most people more than 2 minutes. I have had it successfully running on a 86km trip without crashing. Since then I have lost interest in navit, as I bought Sygic mobile maps for N900. I might update the package sometime. Currently all my free time goes in fixing my motorcycle.
:D Have nice days in mechanical patching :p

taril 2010-03-30 08:42
Re: Navit on N900
 
garmin maps is the best that i missing in navit.
libgarmin where are you?
:-D

hara 2010-03-30 08:46
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by taril (Post 587799)
garmin maps is the best that i missing in navit.
libgarmin where are you?
:-D
This has been said a few times before. Garmin support is inbuilt. Enable it in maps.xml. Reading this thread, you would have found out that only a couple have got it working with Garmin maps.

@magellan94: Thanks, I'll enjoy it a lot more when it's finished. Riding under the blue sky...

Kjow 2010-03-30 08:58
Re: Navit on N900
 
Garmin Map is working for me... but only the free version.
Other versions are locked/with other structure, so no hope to use these maps on Navit, for now.

However the free Garmin map is ridicolous and it is usefull only to see it working (all europe in 10Mb... in Italy there are little more than 5 roads!)

arne.anka 2010-03-30 10:25
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hara (Post 587470)
Hi
Compiling navit for n900 needs quite a bit of hacking.
gee, thanks.
but that is as much infromation i already found.
anybody care to elaborate?

looks like at least _one_ person has been able to build navit for the n900 -- so there should be at least _one_ person able to give more helpful answers, shouldn't there?

hara 2010-03-30 16:22
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arne.anka (Post 587944)
gee, thanks.
but that is as much infromation i already found.
anybody care to elaborate?

looks like at least _one_ person has been able to build navit for the n900 -- so there should be at least _one_ person able to give more helpful answers, shouldn't there?
There's AT LEAST two persons before me compiling navit for n900. I'm not a coder so I won't start a tutorial on compiling here. Besides, the way I made it compile sure isn't the "standard" way. Otherwise someone else would already have patched the sources so they would compile cleanly.

But I'll give you a hint, start from here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=13 so did I, thanks to schnebeck. Also check out the wiki for navit on scratchbox, valuable info there too.

arne.anka 2010-03-30 16:30
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hara (Post 588466)
the way I made it compile sure isn't the "standard" way. Otherwise someone else would already have patched the sources so they would compile cleanly.
i don't care for standard, as long as it compiles.
then i could figure out how to better and more standard'y.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hara (Post 588466)
But I'll give you a hint, start from here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=13 so did I, thanks to schnebeck. Also check out the wiki for navit on scratchbox, valuable info there too.
seen already.

zaxl 2010-03-30 16:43
Re: Navit on N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by willem43 (Post 582080)
Ok. I have enabled garmin maps in maps.xml; OSM maps are enabled as well. In navit - settings I can choose between the two maps. The path to the garmin map set is correct.
The map set consists of lots of small maps (*.img), a basemap.img, and a file product.tdb. The path is directed towards the basemap.img file.
(/home/user/navit_maps/basemap.img)

What am I doing wrong ?

You should set the path to the TDB file:
mapname.tdb and rename the basemap.img to be
mapname.img.

or use gmapsupp.img file, the one that is for installation on device.


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