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Jaffa 2009-12-31 12:28

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
The article should probably be merged with the existing http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding (also note the capitalisation standard for titles in our wiki).

I don't think the differences are so large that the wiki needs two pages on it :-)

jerryfreak 2009-12-31 21:13

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
thanks so much! my recent hanbrake encodes gave me mixed results.

RevdKathy 2010-01-01 09:12

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
I'm going to write a 'dummies' guide for people who just want to 'make it work' and I'll link off your page, if that's ok. I'm currently gathering some screenshots.

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-01 09:14

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
Im waiting for my phone, 3 day shipping is taking 7 days :( but when I get it I may add some extra stuff to the wiki.

handbrake is a pretty good program but I know a lot of other programs to encode with the one I like most is MeGUI it has presets as well, and we can easily share a preset that is perfect for the N900. Though I suspect the ipod touch/phone preset is almost a perfect place to start.

Shame its only basic 3.0 support I expected better out of the N900, but as long as its lag free with no sync issues like my Sony W760 has I wont complain.

RevdKathy 2010-01-01 11:04

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
Ok folkd, a very VERY basic guide is now up here

http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_Encoding_Basic_Guide

Improve it, change it, edit it... and if it works, please could it be linked from the informational page.
:)

jayford 2010-01-01 13:20

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 447835)
The article should probably be merged with the existing http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding (also note the capitalisation standard for titles in our wiki).

I don't think the differences are so large that the wiki needs two pages on it :-)

I tried merging them:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding

Please tell me what you think. I think it looks logical, one subject for N900, another for the older devices (could write that one better), and the streaming and the manual encoding also as a different topic as they apply to both.

If you really don't like it revert/improve but if you do then the N900 video encoding should be redirecting to that page.

p.s - What is the capitalisation standard? Every letter capital?(except "to", etc)

Jaffa 2010-01-01 14:25

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jayford (Post 448822)
I tried merging them:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding

Please tell me what you think. I think it looks logical, one subject for N900, another for the older devices (could write that one better), and the streaming and the manual encoding also as a different topic as they apply to both.

There are two things which people should be interested in:
  1. What tools can I use for my N900, N8x0 and 770 for various OSes to transcode video/rip DVDs?
  2. What are the limits of the device if I'm doing it myself manually?

I think the separation between N900 and "older devices" is a little artifiicial as most of the information is common to both; the only difference is in the maximum qualities supported.

Quote:

p.s - What is the capitalisation standard? Every letter capital?(except "to", etc)
Wiki page names are initial capital, rest lower case. For example:
  • Video encoding - consistent
  • N900 Video Encoding - inconsistent (if nothing else, should be N900 video encoding)
  • Video Encoding Basic Guide - inconsistent (if nothing else, should be Video encoding basic guide)

However, the intention of http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding was always the "basic guide". People who want a detailed walk through of all the options of a specific tool are best dealt with with a sub-page.

Suggested organisation:
  • Video encoding - overview of tools for quick easy-to-use tools which support all tablet versions (tablet-encode, ITVC, Media Converter, Handbrake (with preset)); and mention of maximum recommended resolutions/bitrates.
  • Video encoding/Manual - how to manually use mencoder/Handbrake/ffmpeg/other random tool. Details the limitations (codecs, resolutions, bitrates etc.)
  • Video encoding/Handbrake_on_Windows - detailed step-by-step instructions for very inexperienced users who can't extrapolate from the overview.

RevdKathy 2010-01-01 17:19

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
^Great. By all means edit and rename accordingly. :)

(I have problems with wiki capitalisation: if you search for 'user faq' you get no result - you have to search for 'user FAQ' which bugs me every time. :p)

philipl 2010-01-01 18:17

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
I'm not convinced that an un-separated guide is helpful (I have no problem with a single page but honestly, pages are cheap so a landing page that links to N900 and pre-N900 guides makes the most sense to me).

The considerations are so different between N900 and pre-N900 that you'd end up with every section having two parts. Even the choice of encoding software isn't clear - Handbrake is a good fit for the N900 but as the newest version has only very basic xvid support, it's unlikely to be the right choice for the older models.

philipl 2010-01-01 19:08

Re: New N900 video encoding guide added to wiki
 
Oh, and on the subject of 5.1 AAC downmix, there's another handbrake thread with a patch:

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14084

and a blog post regarding this in ffmpeg:

http://muzso.hu/2009/02/25/downsampl...ls-with-ffmpeg

However, you've got to patch and build your own Handbrake in either case


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