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gohan2091 2009-12-30 22:22

Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Quick question about the n900 battery. Is it best to charge the n900 when it approaches low battery levels e.g. 10%? or can I charge it at anytime at any level without lowering the efficiency of the battery? I don't know much about batteries but I hear some battery types lose effectiveness the more you recharge and eventually, the battery cannot hold hardly any charge.

What can people tell me about this? Thanks in advance

floffe 2009-12-30 22:26

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
You can charge anytime, in fact Li-Ion batteries like in the N900 prefer not being drained too much or being charged too hard. If you can keep them between 20 and 90% you'll probably get the best life out of them.

stlpaul 2009-12-30 22:26

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
I think with this type of battery the recommended way is many short charging cycles rather than use it until it's dead, charge it until it is full. In other words, put it on charger whenever possible...

gohan2091 2009-12-30 23:05

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Does it state any of this on their website? (If anyone can remember) Thanks both of you, I appreciate it!

stlpaul 2009-12-30 23:12

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
It's just general lithium-ion battery advice. Also, slower, low-power charges are better. So the AC wall charger which puts out 1200mA an charged the N900 really fast is actually worse for its battery long-term than the day-long USB 500mA recharges. Go figure :)

AlexDT 2010-01-19 00:43

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floffe (Post 447268)
You can charge anytime, in fact Li-Ion batteries like in the N900 prefer not being drained too much or being charged too hard. If you can keep them between 20 and 90% you'll probably get the best life out of them.

I charge when I'm asleep... so this would be bad for my phone???
Cause after 2 hours it's at 97%... till I wake up.

Maybe this is the reason it never gets to 100%??

Renkon 2010-01-19 00:59

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Maybe do
hal-device bme | grep battery
in x-term and look at

battery.reporting.current (current state)
battery.reporting.last_full (last time charged)
battery.reporting.design (what it should be OOTB)
?
These are mAh. If this is somewhere near (last_full / design) * 100 = 97% this is explaining what it shows.

Mine is at 14% charged with current / design = 187/1250 = 0,149 = 14%
and has a ratio of 1044 / 1250 = 83,52%. I will do a complete recharge and report the results afterwards.

Cas07 2010-01-19 01:02

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
More info: http://wiki.maemo.org/Batteries

I dont tend to charge mine until its low (just entered red) as there are a limited number of charge cycles (several hundred) but not entirely sure what defines a charge cycle as you can topup charge without that counting.

Renkon 2010-01-19 01:05

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Quote:

When the operating time (talk-time and standby time) is noticeably shorter than normal, it is time to buy a new battery.
That's the reason they released the new update. Nokia wants to sell more batteries :)

Cas07 2010-01-19 01:10

Re: Nokia N900 Battery Question (Less Efficient Over Time?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Renkon (Post 481129)
That's the reason they released the new update. Nokia wants to sell more batteries :)

I know you are probably being sarcastic but im getting waay more time out of mine since update.

Oh and good discussion about battery percentage linked from bottom of battery wiki: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7636


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