Re: Firmware to be released Q1 of '10. MMS to be supported.
 

mystickrokks, could you just please stop? i bet it wouldn't help if every other user in this board would come and say you are wrong, you would keep going and going. but please keep in mind that you can't destroy all the mirrors in the world...

Re: Firmware to be released Q1 of '10. MMS to be supported.
 

i will stop- but i am not wrong in the slightest..

happy new year to you ALL..

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Thanks dude, was a misspell!

2d

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Frak MMS. Will it support #* numbers? I am really happy I didn't preordered N900. In terms of "phone - mobile computer" it completely failed on both fronts.

Phone - not supporting *# means that as phone for pre-paid cards it useless since 100% of account management is done with those numbers (at least in Poland).
Mobile computer - lack of support for external input devices (lacking of proper Bluetooth profiles).

No Host/OTG USB mode. Ridiculous.

First and second thing can be solved by software. Third not.

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BTW i've noticed since i got n900 my outgoing sms traffic decreased almost tenfold. I switched to IM mostly - looks like people are usually online and now i have a tool to see it always ;-)

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yep same here.. the intergration means i use my skype im alot, sometimes not even realiseing i am using that instead of sms.. really want hotamil to be intergrated mind- i like pidgin but id rather have all my IMn and txt's in one place.

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*# was fixed in the 52th week if I remember well (so may be released in next firmware)

as for the mobile computer, you've got a TV output, an hardware keyboard, you can manage the phone like you maange a standard debian distro, you can install another Os if you want, have a direct access to xterm, have software like vnc, openvpn, you can access to the phone via ssh, so I don't think that this part is fail. not even close. For sure things can be fixed, but it's great as it is now.

For sure OTG usb would have been great, but maybe with a remote bluetooth adapter it could do the trick

Re: Firmware to be released Q1 of '10. MMS to be supported.
 

What?


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Funny, I have experienced the oposite. SMS as a convo, qwerty keyboard... Easy.

I used to ignore SMS or reply on IM when I got home.

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volt you are obviously not used to decent touch screen text input then..using the keyboard its seriously annoyuing when u are used to an iphone.

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Well you are always free to keep the physical keyboard closed and use the on screen one.

All devices are different. The N900 is not an Iphone. I personally prefer the Nokia devices to other manufacturers products, so I am quite happy with the input interface. The top row takes a little to get used to but now I´m pretty quick with the physical keyboard.

For me the product quality in general, and the user interface (primarily s60.3rd and older interfaces) is more smooth and logical to me than on other devices. And I´ve tried quite a few: Palm, Motorola, Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Apple (only as a borrowed unit), multiple WinMo devices etc.

So I guess we cancel each other out in terms of preferences :cool:

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yes but its not potrait yet, and the virual keyboard isnt as responsive..

i prefer the nokia as well. but the iphone is better at texting- its simple as that..

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yeah sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
What I was saying is, maybe with a bluetooth usb adapter (like this : http://www.inspector-gadget.co.uk/blog_134.shtml) it will be possible to connect whatever USB peripheral

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from me to go from the iphone to the nokia the txting is a bit annoying-at the end of the day i feel there are to many fan boys out there- some pohones are better at some things- its simple.- but its great to have intergrated IM although its the same input method- its better than the non intergrated app based messenger/s on iphone..

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I guess you never used really good qwerty phone given you are so excited about touch screen input.

Actually my previous phone keyboard was way better than n900's.. but even n900 is much better than iphone text input when it comes to typing more that 1-2Kb's.

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It requires a custom driver we do not have, right?

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how arkanoid ...

you cant use one hand in landscape..

how can you send a checky txt within seconds.. waiting at red lights, under desk at work etc.

you really have to try out these things- there is no way in the world that the n900 at the mo is better than the iphone at txting

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i suppose the difference is you have only tried hardware keyboards- not virtual for a period of time- i have..

i prefer the keyboard to do emails and posting on forums mind..


exited lol- u mean on a phone that had a virtual keyboard 3 years ago lol.and stiull better than the n900 at txting. yeah ok arkonoid..

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Thanks, i do not really need one-handed typing. Typing with two hands with comfort is way more important to me.

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its better for emails as i said etc, not for a quick txt when on the move..

we have a phone with the ability to do both-- and i am sure potrait txting is in the mix

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I do not drive and text.. and i advise you not to do it either ;-))

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i dont drive and txt- i erm do if late stuck in traffic mind.. also change songs with the media player(or locations on the gps)- that is very simple on the iphone- dangerous on the n900

Re: Firmware to be released Q1 of '10. MMS to be supported.
 

Then you were wrong. It is not possible, and it will not be possible.

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it may be possible if someone writes a driver for it- but thats a big if and bluetooth is too slow..

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A strike of out-of-context quote, but as far as I remember when I last looked (a very long time ago, so might be mistaken), i-Mode is mostly based on email technology :)

Now, run along, nothing to see here... Just an old fart mumbling nonsense...

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Anyway I've read on the developer forum that maybe there is a fix for the usb host mode. But it's pretty sure that the N900 will not be capable of supplying enough power for a connected peripheral, so even if it's possible to turn the host mode on, the peripheral will need an external power (and even worse maybe a wire manipulation to activate the host mode)

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no usb hosting is very annoying.

surely if the flash card slot was outside the device we could have at least had a flash convertor- so we could have at least backed up and/or sent pics from a decent camera on the fly mind(NO NOT BY MMS LOL).(or other things like that)

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I've written about this previously, but quite simply, the Inspector-Gadget writer was speculating wildly regarding that device. In reality, it's nothing more than yet another USB hub with built-in Bluetooth adapter.

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Very good points! Email tends to not have these issues, but the catch is a lot less devices have the function, since more basic phones out and about than smart devices with email function. Not to mention that there is no set-up for picture mms and no email address needed. Simple to use for people that think a dvd player is complex.

There are carriers that picture mms can not be sent to us from England and we get a message showing a web address and key to see the picture. Crazy.

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The main difference between a mail and a mms is that a mms, like a sms, is instantenaously received by the recipient, and the sender knows that the MMS has been sended to the recipient.

When you send a mail to someone, if this person is not in front of its computer or has not a mobile phone with mail always on (and even so, this person can check its mail once every hour), it can take a long delay between the time you sent your mail and the time the recipient get the mail.

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rav these days, esp the fact that 90% of my family and friends have iphones/androids/blackberrys(that push emails every 5 mins)- its effectively instant. i do all of my social group conversation through email- for obvious reasons, its easy to reply to everyone back and have the whole conversation ongoing.. and because of that and the fact i send up to 100 emails a day for work. means i and most of my collegues and friends(in the same sort of fields) use email as the main media for conversation..


and many that dont utilise email as much- for example my gf.. she does all her stuff on facebook- thats where she chats to her mates , thats where she posts her pics, thats where she arranges nights out etc..

i understand not everyone is like this- but its only a matter of time.

yes mms is valid atm, but it has a shelf life and its running out.. email and ip stuff on the other hand has no imediate shelf life

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You are not typical. Far and away most cell phone users are not checking email every 5 minutes.

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well to be honest people that use smart phones invariably do (business users like my self)

i have to check my email all the time- i am not checking it anyway- it just pops up like a txt- it pushes..

this is my point- you want a phone like this for mms-- why!!!!

its a smart phone not a toy..

so many better phones out there for you peops

every person i know with a blackberry nokia e70 etc check emails constantly- everyone i know with iphones are on fb 24/7 ..

AND AS I SAID EVERYONE ISNT LIKE THIS but ITS A MATTER OF TIME..

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I agree that the main media today is the mail.
But take this situation : it's new years eve, you're with a lot of friends, but one of them is not here (and he has not yet an iphone / blackberry / droid) at another party location, sick in bed or I don't know. You take a group picture, and send them by MMS a happy new year with the picture of you and your friends. He will get it right after you send it, and voila.
I agree that when everybody will have a smartphone with a correct data plan, it will be time to take this f***** MMS protocol and put it down to the garbage disposal of computer hall of shame. But right now some people still need this crappy protocol.

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yeah its nice rav- MMS IS STILL VALID, but its shifting. eventually it will be replaced with email.. just like 2g to 3g etc etc.

i have no probs nokia sorting out the mms- but if they sort out the mms- b4 fixing the email client, the power save problems, the potrait stuff, the gps- i will not be happy

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I'm splitting hairs, but actually this is not true, while in practice it might seem so. There is no guaranteed delivery of SMS/MMS messages in the standard and if the message is not delivered, you might not get notification on this as most of the operators (at least in U.S.) do not support notification reports, which would tell when the message has been received. There is no guarantee that the SMS/MMS will be instantaneous, which is why you will see cases where some messages are lingering somewhere in the systems hours or even days before they are delivered.

So while it is true that there are far more SMS/MMS capable devices in the market than email and I think nowadays MMS is actually configured properly on most devices to work at least inside that particular operators network, there is no guarantee that it will ever be received by the recipient and absolutely no guarantee of any instantaneous delivery.

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well in regards to the whole pic at new years(mms)- i recieved one(not on my nok my iphone from an iphone in spain ) and nothing was there..

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Why is it just a matter of time? EVERYONE will decide they need to stop what they are doing to check email, or read an email immediately every 5 minutes?

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just a blank screen- also the majority of my sms's were like hours late- why - coz the networks are blocked att that time- i also got loads of emails sent just after 12- guess what none were delayed..

of course this is all down to traffic, and proving the cellular is very popular, but there are better ways- and gradually ip will kill cell.

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And I've never said they must add a new functionnality before resolving critical bugs ;) I just said that some people still use MMS that's all