800 - obvious but (neccesary) questions thread
 

I'll go first - never used to turn the 770 "off" (ie shut then reboot) but always thought putting the case on sent the unit to a sleep phase - how is that achieved with 800? when it "goes blank" after a while it's still connected to net etc when you tap screen. is there a sleep mode to save bat life without having to do full shutdownb (770 wsod occured to me after an over-anxious bout of rebooting - been rather timid of it ever since!):eek:

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Followw up to flareup question... How does the screen and keypad lock work on this one? If I use soft carrying case/pouch in my pocket, where there will be occasional touching to the screen... I do not want it to wake up from sleep mode. I assume there is some kind of screen/keypad lock in the device... Propably very obvious once I receive my N800 and read the manual... :o

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I don't see any setting for automagically ending the network connecton, other than in connectivity under control panel, where you can set the idle times for each type of connection.

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Hit the power switch on top of the 800 and it prompts you for lock screen and keys, offline, lock device or switch off.

There is a device lock option in the control panel that lets you set the autolock period - 5,10,30 min or 1 hour.

Screen now has brightness period, and switch off display period., as well as a toggle for lock screen and keys when the display is switched off.

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Under Connection Manager -> Tools -> Connectivity Setting there are two settings:

Connect automatically: WLAN connections
Search interval: Never

This will ensure that whenever you click on a URL, if a configured AP is available it will connect automatically. But when you disconnect the network connection, it will not automatically keep searching for the network (Search interval).

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One more question: If I have 770 and make backup of the files and settings into the MMC card, can I restore it on 800? Are the OS's compatible with that standpoint? I assume the memory card format is the same that I can just pop in the RS-MMC card (with adapter) and the 800 will recognize it properly.

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Cheers for the replies!

I must say i'm digging the new tab a lot have to agree with texrat on the niceness of the body styling

webb browsing is much faster - been doing lots of side by side tests and noticed one strange thing - lots more ads! not Popups butt top of page banner stuff

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How do you prevent popups in this thing? its so fricken annoying! Is there something in the control panel options?

And also, how do i get rid of that "Discover Tableteer" on the desktop? I rather use that space for another widget, clock.

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So do a lot of the sites that never worked well (if at all) on the 770 finally work? Examples: Netvibes, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Spreadsheets, meebo, Pandora.

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I suppose that's because on the 770 the ads wouldn't work with Flash 6, but now they appear because the N800 has Flash 7? That's probably the only disadvantage in having a new version of Flash! :)

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I tried Google Calendar and Pandora briefly. Both work, well sort of. Pandora is kind of slow and in Google Calendar I had some problems with adding new entries. Seems like JavaScript issue.

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Question about the SD (or MMC) memory speed: What is the read/write speed of each type on N800? Would one memory type work faster than the other? What would be the minimum speed requirement of the memory card to support higest speed the N800 has to offer?

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Click on Home at the top of the screen and choose "Select applets..." from the menu. Turn on and off the applets you want.

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Install Privoxy and configure your system to use it as a proxy.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...unning_PRIVOXY

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My questions:

1. Will OS 2007 be made available for the 770, or are there features in it (upgraded Flash?) that require the extra RAM of the 800?

2. What's up with the lack of Java? Is ARM really charging that much for Jazelle integration?

3. Did the Nokia update to the kernel that allowed 2 Gb cards also include the MMC access-speed change?

4. Are either of the SD slots SD-IO?

Charles

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Well.... I'm going to reply my own post, thought some speculation is involved. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Since the device support variety of MMC and SD cards the data bus must be 1 bit wide. In that case it all boils down to bus clock speed which is slightly below 20MHz if I recall correctly from some earlier post made in this forum. For 770 there is a patched kernel with up to 52MHz clock speed (if I recall correctly) that would benefit MMC Plus cards that can support up to 52MHz bus. Most likely similar patch can be made for N800 sometimes...

In other words with stock settings it does not matter what card I buy. Only if I plan to apply some future kernel patches then I might consider buying higher speed (50MHz) SD card or MMC Plus card (52MHz).

New question: Is the N800 read/write speed (bus clock speed) the same as in 770?

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Nice to see someone else than me advising this for a change :-)

(that is, of course, if it is confirmed that the latest ITOS2006 binary of Privoxy 3.0.0 still runs under the 2007 version...)

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Okay, some research allowed me to answer some of my own questions.

1. No, OS 2007 will not be made available for the N770. There are too many differences in hardware for this to happen. Source: http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/

2. The OPAM2420 used in the N800 does not have the Jazelle Java accelerator, so that is no longer an issue. With Sun opening Java via the GPL, I'd expect it to show up "eventually" for the N800. Without licensing Jazelle from ARM, I doubt anyone would actually want to run Java on the N770. Source: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...contentId=4671

3. Still unknown, though I expect a kernel patch to be made very quickly if the 52 MHz speed isn't used. I also expect to see a kernel patch to handle SDHC cards, meaning possible use of 8+ Gb SD cards. There are already reports of several 4 Gb cards working.

4. Unknown, but doubtful. If this was the case, I think it would be trumpeted pretty loud. Ah, well...

Share and enjoy.

Charles

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Odd, /proc/cpuinfo still reports the "java" extension, from what I've seen.

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Okay, that's because I was reading TI's docs on the OMAP2420, which uses an embedded ARM1136JF-S. Jazelle is ARM's baby, so it wasn't prominently mentioned on the TI docs but is there because it is native to the ARM1136.

As best as I can tell, the hardware is capable of TONS more than the software is utilizing. Considering the mediocre playback of video on the unit, the hardware acceleration is probably being totally ignored because of lack of driver awareness. (The ARM/TI docs boast 30 fps video encode/decode at 640x480 res. Reports on the current hardware seem to place it more at 3 than 30, meaning total software decoding.)

There also looks to be hardware crypto accelerators, hardware java acceleration, and hardware 2D/3D acceleration. I wonder how much of that we're going to be able to get thru Open Source...

Still, there is room for significant enhancements thru software only. Woo hoo!

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ok, another hopefully simple one - using the built in audio player, how do you make playlists?

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It is an option in the settings of Opera (the browser) to turn off popups

Prevent Pop Ups
 

That's Correct.

In the Web browser click: Web > Tools > Settings

Where it says "Enable pop-up windows" choose your prefered option.

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Er.. no. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
4-bit SD interfaces can read (1-bit) MMC cards. My strong guess is that the N800 has a 4-bit SD/MMC interface.

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Yes, you are likely correct. I should receive my 4GB SD cards soon to test and can make some quick read/write speed test to verify this... there should be 4X difference when compared to the 1GB MMC card I'm using at the moment (borrowed from old 770).

Another answer I found to my earlier question about restoring backup made with 770 to N800: Yes, it does work. :)