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badboyuk 2010-06-12 15:04

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 711355)
That's possible, it'd mean there weren't any errors reported, which also means I have no idea why the widget would stay black :(.
As a long shot, try:
rm .feedingit/widget

says cannot remove, no such file or directory? That is wierd cause I see the Feedingit app in the menu and I opened it today and it loaded up fine which allowed me to change and add feeds etc but the widget still doesnt work. odd

modeless 2010-06-13 13:21

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Hi all! First I would like to say a big thankyou to slocan for FeedingIt - it is an awesome piece of work and one of the most heavily used apps on my N900. I really love it.

Of course there are - like always - small things that would make my user experience even better. Maybe there is room to include some of my suggestions:

1) I would like to have an option "Update feeds on startup". My usecase is that I am not running FeedingIt permanently but on demand. I would like it to update feeds automatically on startup (if connection available).

2) As I am reading feeds thru aggregators like planet maemo or my own aggregated news thru google reader feeds, I would like to see the original author/feed (maybe URI-link) in the FeedingIt-Header of the article (maybe same line as the articles date). Would this be possible?

3) I really like the possibility to follow links directly in FeedingIt. However, sometimes the integrated "browser" is not powerful enough; then I select "open with browser". It would be cool imho if then the browser is not opened with the original articles uri but with the current uri in FeedingIt.

4) (Guess this is the most advanced wish): a synchronization with google reader would make FeedingIt nearly perfect for me.

Again thank you guys for your wonderful work!

Slocan 2010-06-16 22:36

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
@ffarber: 0.7.0-4 got pushed last night to -devel. It contains a fix for wordpress blogs which were using compressed pages. I think that should fix what you were experiencing.

@modeless: Your point 3 has been added too. The external browser button opens the current page now. There is also a new option to open all links in the external browser by default.

That version also contains some improvements to the widget when there aren't any feeds added/updated in the main application yet. This is what badboyuk was experiencing.
Also, Thp made some more improvements to the UI, and Njsf added an option to sort the feed list based on number of unread message or on the time a new article was last fetched.

ffarber 2010-06-17 03:16

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 718420)
@ffarber: 0.7.0-4 got pushed last night to -devel. It contains a fix for wordpress blogs which were using compressed pages. I think that should fix what you were experiencing.

Slocan-

That is awesome. I will check it out as soon as I can. I am having a bit of a problem. I may have mentioned that I am on a cross-country motorcycle trip but I crashed pretty badly (I'm fine, the bike is not. For details see flfpgl.blogspot.com (the crash is on day 12) if you are interested) and the charger ripped out the charging port on the phone. I am finally somewhere that FedEx can reach me and have received an off-line charger that is currently putting 200ma into the battery so it is taking some time). I should be able to check it out later tonight.

Thanks again,
Fred

jer006 2010-06-21 13:01

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Slocan,
Thanks for adding the ability to open links in the external browser. This is very cool - the app can be a bit sensitive though and if your swipe was not enough you can end up accidentally opening the browser but this is very minor! :)

I did notice some weird behaviour this morning though - I have it set to hide read items and when I tried to swipe left to go back to the previous article instead of going back to the previously read one it was looping around to the previously unread article.

Also is there any way that feedingit can make an internet connection if one is not available (using the default connection settings?) - I do manual updates and because I am running autodisconnect I first have to make the connection each morning, start feedingit and then do a manual update - I like modeless's suggestion for update on startup above.

Awesome application though, By far the best RSS reader on the n900 - thanks for all the hard work, I very much appreciate it!

Slocan 2010-06-21 22:47

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jer006 (Post 723601)
I did notice some weird behaviour this morning though - I have it set to hide read items and when I tried to swipe left to go back to the previous article instead of going back to the previously read one it was looping around to the previously unread article.

Njsf, who had developed that feature, just submitted a patch to fix this very issue. It'll be added soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jer006 (Post 723601)
Also is there any way that feedingit can make an internet connection if one is not available (using the default connection settings?) - I do manual updates and because I am running autodisconnect I first have to make the connection each morning, start feedingit and then do a manual update - I like modeless's suggestion for update on startup above.

I might suggest to use a scheduler, or a desktop shortcut, to start a script that could look like:
Code:

dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.icd /com/nokia/icd com.nokia.icd.connect string:"[ANY]" uint32:0
FeedingIt update

That should connect you to an available network, and update your feeds in the background. If you don't want it in the background, something like the following should work:
Code:

dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.icd /com/nokia/icd com.nokia.icd.connect string:"[ANY]" uint32:0
FeedingIt status
FeedingIt update


dscobsct 2010-06-21 23:45

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
loving this app, it caters for my rss feed needs entirely, but can i just ask about something thats been bugging me for a long time,
when i swipe for the next article, it doesnt swipe in it just appears, and when you swipe for the atricle before, the article swipes in from the wrong side. do you know what i mean, is it just on my phone or is it with everyones?

Slocan 2010-06-22 02:25

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dscobsct (Post 724296)
when i swipe for the next article, it doesnt swipe in it just appears, and when you swipe for the atricle before, the article swipes in from the wrong side. do you know what i mean, is it just on my phone or is it with everyones?

Short answer: that's the way it was designed, but it might change soonish.

Long answer: they are not swipes in the same sense as the Photo app (where you "turn the page"), but more like gestures (in the sense that a gesture is just a shortcut to a button), so they are backwards to what seems to be the norm nowadays. But I didn't know any better at the time. I've been giving it some thought recently, and as time allows, this might change.

dscobsct 2010-06-22 02:49

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thank you, it was just puzzling me since one kinda swipes in from the wrong side and one just appears. but great app mate, one to be proud of.

Creamy Goodness 2010-06-22 22:59

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
nice app, but I was hoping to have multiple instances of the widget each showing the contents of different feeds. I guess I couldn't have very many, but it would be nice for at least my e-mail.

rajil.s 2010-06-24 20:28

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The widget only displays the article count rather than the content as shown in the attached screenshot. Is that expected behaviour?

Rob1n 2010-06-24 20:49

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rajil.s (Post 728077)
The widget only displays the article count rather than the content as shown in the attached screenshot. Is that expected behaviour?

Yes - the widget only shows a count of new articles in each feed.

rajil.s 2010-06-24 20:58

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Cheers. Are there any plans of displaying headers of rss feeds in the widget?

Slocan 2010-06-24 21:26

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rajil.s (Post 728113)
Cheers. Are there any plans of displaying headers of rss feeds in the widget?

It will most likely be given as an option one day, but probably not in the very short term, a few other things have priorities (unless someone else feels like taking this on).

jer006 2010-06-27 20:50

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
hi slocan i have noticed that between updates articles which i have previously read get marked as unread. is this a known issue? its not a consistent problem but it appears to happen pretty often.

Slocan 2010-06-28 05:35

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jer006 (Post 731898)
hi slocan i have noticed that between updates articles which i have previously read get marked as unread. is this a known issue? its not a consistent problem but it appears to happen pretty often.

It usually means the article was updated in the feed, but it's possible a bug exists.

jer006 2010-06-28 12:54

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Thanks Slocan, thats probably whats going on here as it happens inconsistently.

kalle 2010-06-28 14:15

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
This app is starting to be perfect. Couple of minor UX ideas:

- Feeds feed -list as normal list same way like the main list is now. The "button -style" list doesn't look so good... If it is trying to save some space, it is not worth it ;)
- Add bottom bar with "update feeds" and "mark all read" -icons (both main list and feed list). Digging them under the top menu takes allways 1 extra tap...
-> In main list the "Add new feed" and "manage subscriptions" could also be brought to bottom bar as icons.

I understand that bottom bar takes 1 row from the list. But i think it is more transparent to the user (what I can see I can do). And more userfriendly with often repeated actions, like "mark all read".

grog 2010-07-08 20:05

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
First I want to say thank you very much for the great app! I'm starting to use it all the time, very slick.

I am experiencing the issue that's already been pointed out about items being marked as new again after being read, but it seems to only happen for one or two feeds. For instance it has yet to happen with Slashdot, so it must be tied to the way those feeds are served.

I have added several cartoon feeds like Dilbert, and while they do work properly I find the image size a bit small for my aging eyes :( :D.Is there any way to enlarge the images, hopefully manually, rather that having to open them in the browser? That kinda defeats the purpose of having them in a newsreader in the first place :rolleyes:.

Keep up the much appreciated work.
TX

edgar2 2010-07-14 10:24

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grog (Post 745286)
I have added several cartoon feeds like Dilbert, and while they do work properly I find the image size a bit small for my aging eyes :( :D.Is there any way to enlarge the images, hopefully manually, rather that having to open them in the browser? That kinda defeats the purpose of having them in a newsreader in the first place :rolleyes:.

you're aware of the comic-widget? you can resize the comics to fit the whole desktop.

Slocan 2010-07-15 18:16

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Any advanced user want to do a bit of beta testing? I've worked on a new storage system (using sqlite3). I'd need a few users who are not afraid of losing their read/unread status, and of the command line to test the upgrade mechanism.

Note that if there are changes needed based on the feedback, this version might not have an upgrade path (meaning you'd have to uninstall FeedingIt, cleanup and reinstall).

Instructions:
- Make an OPML backup of your feeds (Manage Subscriptions->Export as OPML), to be safe
- Download and install the beta version: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....0-0_armel.deb
- Open up the X-terminal, and type: FeedingIt
This will start up the app, and start the upgrade process (it can take quite a long time). If you're getting any errors in the terminal, please send them to me.
- Once the upgrade is complete, look around the app, and the new widget
- Send me your feedback by Private Message on this forum

If all goes well, this will be uploaded to Extras-devel within a day or two for a larger testing group.

Anyone doing it will have my eternal gratitude :).

SaintGermain 2010-07-15 21:57

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
I tried, here is a first bug: when selecting a previously archived article, I got

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/FeedingIt/rss_sqlite.py", line 402, in importOldFormatFeeds
images = feed.getImages(item)
File "/opt/FeedingIt/rss.py", line 383, in getImages
return self.entries[id]["images"]
KeyError: 'images'
FeedingIt.py:1111: GtkWarning: gdk_drawable_set_colormap: assertion `cmap == NULL || gdk_drawable_get_depth (drawable) == cmap->visual->depth' failed
gtk.main()
Aborted

SaintGermain 2010-07-15 22:00

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
I also tried the widget and noticed some bug (haven't tried it before, so maybe it's old bug) :
- I can only view the 3 first articles of a feed
- the viewed articles don't get marked as 'read' after I read them with the widget

Everything else seem fine ! Good work !

Slocan 2010-07-15 22:35

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Thanks a lot for the feedback. The error you quoted is indeed very interesting, shows the Archived Articles didn't import properly, but the rest did (which is nice to see). The GtkWarning message though is much less nice...
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGermain (Post 753325)
- I can only view the 3 first articles of a feed
- the viewed articles don't get marked as 'read' after I read them with the widget

- You should see in the widget all the unread articles, it probably happens you only have 3 unread articles (I hope that's what it is).
- You don't really "read" articles in the widget, you just browse the titles, so they remain unread until you open the app. I was considering another button as a "Mark as read", but didn't really see where it'd fit.

SaintGermain 2010-07-16 21:53

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Hello,

About the 3 articles limitation of the widget, unfortunately no, I have 80 unread articles... But I don't know if it's the new version or not (haven't used the widget before)
By the way I'm with PR1.2 and with extra-devel repository enable.

Slocan 2010-07-16 22:29

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGermain (Post 754375)
Hello,

About the 3 articles limitation of the widget, unfortunately no, I have 80 unread articles... But I don't know if it's the new version or not (haven't used the widget before)
By the way I'm with PR1.2 and with extra-devel repository enable.

The old widget couldn't display articles, so it definitely is only in the new version ;). I've made some updates, and will push something into Extras-devel, either late tonight, or tomorrow, which hopefully fixes that.
Thanks much!

sony123 2010-07-17 09:33

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Hi Slocan,

I have updated to 0.8.0. Glad to report db update went smoothly.
The updated widget is quite nice, but I don't use it so didn't test too much.

However, I did hit a bug. It seems like viewing the feed content in portrait mode, swiping action will trigger the windows to jump to landscape then revert back to portrait. This issue seems a little random at times, but I could consistent reproduce it when opening a feed for the first time and swipe either left or right. Any swiping afterward doesn't trigger landscape mode (though I can see the title bar still behaves like the windows is changing to landscape mode... hope you know what I mean).

As always, thanks for keeping polishing the app!

Slocan 2010-07-17 16:20

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 754731)
I have updated to 0.8.0. Glad to report db update went smoothly.

Great, thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 754731)
It seems like viewing the feed content in portrait mode, swiping action will trigger the windows to jump to landscape then revert back to portrait.

Yes, that actually existed in earlier versions too when swiping in portrait mode to the left. If you swipe to the right (next article down the list), it doesn't do the flickering.

grog 2010-07-17 18:19

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edgar2 (Post 751330)
you're aware of the comic-widget? you can resize the comics to fit the whole desktop.

Thanks for the tip. I checked that out along with anything else Maemo has available now. The widget is ok, but it's not resizable itself, so I still have to open the local copy of the comic in the browser, which is does support directly so it is a step in the right direction.

For me I'll still just pull out my reading glasses to read them in FeedingIt. It's a lot nicer to have them in the same place I read all my other news.

TX

bertolt 2010-07-18 04:48

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
updated! sorting and hiding read feeds/articles doesn't work anymore...

tnhh 2010-07-18 04:54

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bertolt (Post 755454)
updated! sorting and hiding read feeds/articles doesn't work anymore...

Yes, my upgrade worked but I have a few problems:
  • Sorting works for me but it seems to be reversed - "least recent" shows most recent at the top
  • The timestamps in the list of feeds now seem to be the timestamps of last update rather than the timestamps of the most recent article
  • Hiding read feeds/articles has no effect
  • The whole application feels much slower

I deleted ~/.feedingit and relaunched so I don't think that the above problems are due to upgrading from an older version.

bertolt 2010-07-18 04:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tnhh (Post 755456)
Yes, my upgrade worked but I have a few problems:
  • Sorting works for me but it seems to be reversed - "least recent" shows most recent at the top
  • The timestamps in the list of feeds now seem to be the timestamps of last update rather than the timestamps of the most recent article
  • Hiding read feeds/articles has no effect
  • The whole application feels much slower

I deleted ~/.feedingit and relaunched so I don't think that the above problems are due to upgrading from an older version.

so did it work properly after relaunching?

tnhh 2010-07-18 05:12

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bertolt (Post 755458)
so did it work properly after relaunching?

Oops, forgot to say! No, all of the problems are still present even after relaunching with an empty ~/.feedingit directory.

Slocan 2010-07-18 08:10

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
0.8.0-3, coming to extras-devel in a few minutes fixes the sorting. It was indeed reversed, and you couldn't hide the feeds with 0 articles.

ffarber 2010-07-18 14:17

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Slocan-

I just installed 8.0-3 and like the idea of the new widget. The old widget used to resize itself if there were not many feeds being monitored so that it did not use as much screen space. The new widget is not doing that for me, I only have two feeds being monitored by the widget. Am I missing something?

Thanks again,
Fred

Slocan 2010-07-18 17:39

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Correct, the new widget is fixed size. If it stays small when displaying the feed names, it would have to grow to display articles, which I'm not sure that's very friendly to other widgets around. Or it could be made to display only 2 articles at a time (when monitoring only 2 feeds). Either way, there's some compromise to be made, but I'm open to feedback/ideas.

tnhh 2010-07-18 18:36

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 755554)
0.8.0-3, coming to extras-devel in a few minutes fixes the sorting. It was indeed reversed, and you couldn't hide the feeds with 0 articles.

Thanks. The sorting now "works" in that "most recent" shows the most recent date at the top. But since the date is the date when the feed was last updated, this just sorts my subscriptions in reverse order - I assume that this is because they are fetched in order. In other words "most recent" and "least recent" don't do much. Is it possible to have the previous behaviour back?

quingu 2010-07-19 10:35

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Hey Slocan,
first, i have to thank you for all the time you put into developing this really useful program.

now comes the nitpicking. starting with the update spree, I found many quirks in the new versions that make me wish i could go back to "simpler times". For one, there are the strange sorting bugs (some new entries on top, some on bottom...), but most importantly:

I mostly used the desktop widget as a demon for always having the main feed list up-to-date, plus 3-4 entries of feeds i read often. that made it a very practical and sleek combination of a widget with very little screen space, plus always updated feeds.
now the widget is huge, like, xbox-huge. half a screen, and no way to switch it off? i don't see me browsing the feeds ever within the widget only, when a useful, well-customizable interface is just a touch away.

Is there any way of convincing you to make the widget size configurable? Or, alternatively, having the user select a widget mode, or, if all else fails, providing a second, mini-widget?

Thank you for your consideration. Keep up the good work!

ffarber 2010-07-19 12:16

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quingu (Post 756615)
Hey Slocan,

Is there any way of convincing you to make the widget size configurable? Or, alternatively, having the user select a widget mode, or, if all else fails, providing a second, mini-widget?

Thank you for your consideration. Keep up the good work!

It really is true that people refuse to read the threads, drives me crazy as this was covered only two posts back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 755961)
Correct, the new widget is fixed size. If it stays small when displaying the feed names, it would have to grow to display articles, which I'm not sure that's very friendly to other widgets around. Or it could be made to display only 2 articles at a time (when monitoring only 2 feeds). Either way, there's some compromise to be made, but I'm open to feedback/ideas.

I do think having the widget be a constant size, especially as large as it is makes it less attractive for use, I think there are three choices:

1) Size the widget to the number of feeds being read and only show that number of articles.
2) Allow the user to set the size of the widget with or without scrolling options.
3) Allow the user to choose between the two widget styles.

I vote for number one as I think it will be simpler for everyone. Thanks for all the work!

Fred

quingu 2010-07-19 13:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ffarber (Post 756685)
It really is true that people refuse to read the threads, drives me crazy as this was covered only two posts back.

It's unhealthy to get upset so easily. I actually read slocan's statement carefully. That's why I insisted on the point that there are cases where his decision of a big, unresizable widget is a step backwards.

No need of accusing other people of things you have trouble of complying with yourself.


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