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Slocan 2010-03-04 19:01

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Originally Posted by deter3 (Post 555871)
Thanks for the info . Meantime , Is there any one reporting N900 becomes more responsivness after uninstallation of feedingit ?

I haven't heard of this specifically for FeedingIt before. But if you have a way to reproduce it consistently, let me know.

gaorui 2010-03-05 00:34

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Hi everyone:
Thanks for everyone,thanks.:)

Laughing Man 2010-03-05 18:58

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slocan,

I have a question and a suggestion. First the question.

When I archive an item in an RSS feed, how do I remove the archived article? The only method I have found so far to remove an archived article is to delete the entire archived articles listing.

Now onto the suggestion. Have you heard of ReadItLater? The developer of ReadItLater has an API that allows you to hook into his service, so you could consider adding ReadItLater functionality to feedingit if it's possible to integrate his API into the program.

Slocan 2010-03-05 19:55

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 557183)
When I archive an item in an RSS feed, how do I remove the archived article?

The articles should expire and remove themselves after a certain number of hours (time set in the Preferences menu, by default 24 hours) like in all the other feeds.

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 557183)
Have you heard of ReadItLater?

I had never heard of it before, looks like a nice service. It might be a way to rework the Archived Articles section in the longer term.

Slocan 2010-03-08 03:38

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New version in extras-devel: 0.5.1-0, but mostly for advanced users, this is a fairly untested version.
Before upgrading, please export your feed list to keep as backup.
During the upgrade, read/unread tracking will be reset for all articles (everything to unread).

To enable the Webkit features, you need to manually install:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....2-2_armel.deb
(side note, the autobuilder fails to build this for the i386 target, which is why it's not in extras-devel as it should, I'm still trying to figure out why).

Main changes:
- More responsive over-all, in particular when having lots of feeds (much lower memory footprint, and fewer writing to disk)
- When Python-Webkit is installed, you can use a Webkit based widget to read articles (black on white, easier clicking on links, better rendering of pages...)
- When Python-Webkit is installed, caching of images for Archived Articles is enabled, for better offline reading

mthmob 2010-03-08 11:59

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hey :) tested the new version 5.1, and feels alot faster then previous, however i now have 2 new problems.

First of all, FeedingIt no longer recognizes the characters øæåØÆÅ, instead they are replaced with weird symbols.

And Second, switching between articles (in portrait) by sweeping your finger left from right or right from left, dosen't work correctly. Its feels like not all the screen recognizes the sweeping gesture.

ofels 2010-03-08 12:11

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Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 559741)
First of all, FeedingIt no longer recognizes the characters øæåØÆÅ, instead they are replaced with weird symbols.

I experienced this, too. It looks as if the widget is not UTF8 capable. Maybe a new widget has been introduced?

Quote:

And Second, switching between articles (in portrait) by sweeping your finger left from right or right from left, dosen't work correctly. Its feels like not all the screen recognizes the sweeping gesture.
I experienced this, too. However if the sweep is long enough it works, but looks not very smooth (meaning it does a rather hard transition) leading to a worse user experience than before.

Slocan 2010-03-08 14:45

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- I did reduce the sensitivity of the swipe, because it was triggered too often accidentally before. So, the gesture has to be a bit longer (about 30 pixels). Maybe it's too unsensitive now.

- I'm guessing this is without the extra .deb installed that you're having issues with some characters? I'll check it out tonight.

ofels 2010-03-08 14:58

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 559969)
- I'm guessing this is without the extra .deb installed that you're having issues with some characters? I'll check it out tonight.

Yes, this is without the python-webkit based .deb file.

sorodoros 2010-03-08 17:38

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Minor/easy feature request.

This is my favorite reader of all, but is there some way to show unread articles using the "system" color, or a user preference for the color of unread/read feeds. In other words, going from unread-bold-white to read-normal-white is okay, but is still a bit hard to see.

ofels 2010-03-08 21:22

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 560243)
Minor/easy feature request.

This is my favorite reader of all, but is there some way to show unread articles using the "system" color, or a user preference for the color of unread/read feeds. In other words, going from unread-bold-white to read-normal-white is okay, but is still a bit hard to see.

Good idea, I would want that, too.

Slocan 2010-03-09 06:45

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0.5.1-1 is in extras-devel. Same warnings apply as the version uploaded last night, with a few tweeks:
* Fixed read/unread issue when updating feeds
* Unread messages are shown in SkyBlue colour
Let me know if that's any easier to see now.

ofels 2010-03-09 08:49

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 560834)
0.5.1-1 is in extras-devel. Same warnings apply as the version uploaded last night, with a few tweeks:
* Fixed read/unread issue when updating feeds
* Unread messages are shown in SkyBlue colour
Let me know if that's any easier to see now.

Excellent- works now. Even the issue with umlauts is gone. Good work.

Some thoughts:
Most RSS readers mark the articles in 3 different states:
- new (just incoming)
- unread (not new since the last application start but still unread)
- old

I still can't use Firefox to open articles and the same applies for links. I hope this is cured with the webkit release. Eagerly awaiting things to come.

sorodoros 2010-03-09 15:32

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 560834)
0.5.1-1 is in extras-devel. Same warnings apply as the version uploaded last night, with a few tweeks:
* Fixed read/unread issue when updating feeds
* Unread messages are shown in SkyBlue colour
Let me know if that's any easier to see now.

I think the light bue helps a bit, but it's much too subtle IMO. Why not go with the whatever color is used in the small date text under the feed title? That way, whenever a user changes themes the colors will adjust accordingly.

Also, I agree tht the swipe sensitivity is too low. In other words, it is now too hard to swipe to the next feed.

mivoligo 2010-03-09 16:07

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Adding feeds with FeedHandler still doesn't work. Also preferences menu in portrait mode looks wrong.

Slocan 2010-03-11 06:29

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0.5.2-0 in extras-devel now. It fixes the portrait-orientation preferences menu, the feedhandler dbus call, and increases the sensitivity of the swipes. It also enables the webkit widget by default now (you can turn it off in the menu).

jcompagner 2010-03-11 08:45

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thx the latest version works great, i have tested webkit now and it is way better to work with.
The only thing is that if i click on a link and web opens that page. Then that page is a bit bigger ofcourse then the rss feed. And i can scroll vertically just fine. But if i am in portrait mode. Then for web pages i have to center the thing often. But horizontal scrolling doesnt work i cant swipe to the right or left and scroll the page.

ofels 2010-03-11 10:23

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 563359)
0.5.2-0 in extras-devel now. It fixes the portrait-orientation preferences menu, the feedhandler dbus call, and increases the sensitivity of the swipes. It also enables the webkit widget by default now (you can turn it off in the menu).

Very good. For me Webkit drops the need for opening articles in external browsers, at least for me.

adrianmilev 2010-03-11 16:26

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please fix the problem with cyrillic fonts.
thx

Slocan 2010-03-11 17:42

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Originally Posted by adrianmilev (Post 563955)
please fix the problem with cyrillic fonts.
thx

Do you have some examples? Maybe a screenshot, and the link to some RSS feed that doesn't work?

adrianmilev 2010-03-11 17:47

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http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1842...9afd6812ce.jpg

Slocan 2010-03-11 17:51

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Cool, thanks!
In the latest version available in extras-devel (0.5.2-0), with the Webkit widget, it works properly.

sorodoros 2010-03-11 19:42

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 564085)
...extras-devel (0.5.2-0)...

Really appreciate the latet changes.

I noticed that now, when finger scrolling, the selected text is less sensitive :), so that less text is highlighted, and that the color of the selected text relates to the current theme :). Also, I prefer the white background instead of black :)

Still hoping that you can make unread feed colors and date text color come from the theme in the same way as when finger scrolling.

Great work.

geneven 2010-03-16 21:34

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Does Feedingit support proxies?

I recently started Tor, and can't update my rss feeds with Feedingit or Feed Circuit, but the default RSS reader works fine.

This is only when I'm using Tmobile, which I need a proxy for.

When I go back to wireless, which doesn't use Tor or any proxy, Feedingit and Feed Circuit work great.

Edit: It's suggested that FeedingIt doesn't use the proxy settings in GConf.

Slocan 2010-03-16 23:24

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geneven, FeedingIt uses a simple http connection request through the python libraries. I'd have assumed it uses whatever proxy had been setup, but I guess it doesn't. Not too familiar with this, but I'll try to see if there is something not too complicated I can do in the mid-term.

sorodoros 2010-03-17 00:04

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Anyone else having trouble scrolling through the webkit reader? It's extremely "sticky," stuttery, and slow.

Slocan 2010-03-17 05:05

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@geneven: I've uploaded 0.5.2-2 in extras-devel which to try the proxy support. Can you give it a try and let me know if feeds update with your proxy? Images, and other side downloads might not work yet, just the feed updates.

@sorodoros: is it slow for all feeds? i've noticed some css and flash applets causes it to slow down quite a bit, but most pages are fairly smooth (not as smooth as it should/could be, but very usable).
Also, 0.5.2-2 now uses the theme color for unread messages.

Note, there is an issue in the 0.5 series with the read/unread tracking, sometimes articles are listed multiple times. Leaving the feed listing, and coming back in usually fixes it.

ofels 2010-03-17 06:06

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 569972)
Note, there is an issue in the 0.5 series with the read/unread tracking, sometimes articles are listed multiple times. Leaving the feed listing, and coming back in usually fixes it.

Yes,noted this, too. Mark all as read does not work at all any more from the feed list and the article list still leaves me with unread items after marking them as read.
Though as you mentioned it leaving everything fixes the issue.

Libroid1976 2010-03-17 13:19

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I really like this program. Unfortunately. there are problems with fonts to show pages correctly, especially russian fonts. Can this be fixed?

Libroid1976 2010-03-17 13:23

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Sorry, just posted reply from my phone and did not realise that this was already mentioned above.

sorodoros 2010-03-17 18:51

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 569971)
@sorodoros: is it slow for all feeds? i've noticed some css and flash applets causes it to slow down quite a bit, but most pages are fairly smooth (not as smooth as it should/could be, but very usable).

Not certain what actually casues the slowdowns, but whatever they are, the slowdowns are extreme, making it almost unusable. That said, In general, scrolling is certainly usable, but, as you say, it really should be much smoother even when there is nothing obvious impeding it.

There is another issue with webkit: When using it in portrait mode there is no text reflow (right-hand margins are cut off), and so it is not possible to read articles without reverting to landscape.

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 569971)
Also, 0.5.2-2 now uses the theme color for unread messages.

I do see that, and many thanks for implementing it, but I might have to eat my words on this added feature. Depending on the theme, this works well or, more often than not, actually makes things worse. For example: with theme Marina it is perfect. With Digital Nature it's petty bad. For some of the themes I tested your previous light blue worked better. Maybe user preference here? "Turn on theme colors." Or maybe the specific source for your theme colors could be causing the problem?


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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 569971)
Note, there is an issue in the 0.5 series with the read/unread tracking, sometimes articles are listed multiple times. Leaving the feed listing, and coming back in usually fixes it.

Not sure I am seeing that, but I do see that "expired" articles are still in the feed, even from many days ago. Which begs the question: what does "delete articles after 24 hours" actually mean, if after 72 hours old articles are still there?

geneven 2010-03-17 19:24

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 569971)
@geneven: I've uploaded 0.5.2-2 in extras-devel which to try the proxy support. Can you give it a try and let me know if feeds update with your proxy? Images, and other side downloads might not work yet, just the feed updates.


Wow, fantastic, it works!

Slocan 2010-03-17 19:32

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 570874)
There is another issue with webkit: When using it in portrait mode there is no text reflow (right-hand margins are cut off), and so it is not possible to read articles without reverting to landscape.

The articles/summaries should reflow in portrait, and not overflow unless there are large images. If you click on a link (or in the Archived Articles), some webpages impose a minimum width (through their layout), in which case they'd be cut off. Last night's update also fixes the horizontal scrolling button, so you can enable it now again to view those webpages (it disables the swipe gesture). It's not ideal, but I can't come up with anything better for now.

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 570874)
Or maybe the specific source for your theme colors could be causing the problem?

I noticed that this morning. I grab the color from the small text in the feed buttons. The Marina theme uses the same color there as in the "unread" messages for the email client, so i thought it was the right one. But that's not the case for most of the other themes. Back to the drawing board, and finding a way to get to the right color.

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 570874)
Not sure I am seeing that, but I do see that "expired" articles are still in the feed, even from many days ago. Which begs the question: what does "delete articles after 24 hours" actually mean, if after 72 hours old articles are still there?

Recent updates work this way:
- If an old article is read and over 24 hours (the expiry limit), purge it. Otherwise, keep it.
- If an old article is unread and over 48 hours (2 times the expiry limit), purge it. Otherwise, keep it.
- Add all the articles from the feed update (including articles that could be very old, but still present in the RSS)

sorodoros 2010-03-17 21:08

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 570920)
The articles/summaries should reflow in portrait, and not overflow... Last night's update also fixes the horizontal scrolling button... It's not ideal, but ...

Forgot about menu/allow horizontal scrolling - that certainly helps a lot. And true, images "break" reflow. I guess the remaining problem, at least for me, is getting webkit to scroll nicely, hopefully as well as the article browser scrolls.

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 570920)
I noticed that this morning. I grab the color from the small text in the feed buttons. The Marina theme uses the same color there as in the "unread" messages for the email client, so i thought it was the right one. But that's not the case for most of the other themes. Back to the drawing board, and finding a way to get to the right color.

I see. Well, if you can't find a good alternative, what do you think about a preference to turn on/off "theme colors?"

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Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 570920)
Recent updates work this way:
1 If an old article is read and over 24 hours (the expiry limit), purge it. Otherwise, keep it.
2 If an old article is unread and over 48 hours (2 times the expiry limit), purge it. Otherwise, keep it.
3 Add all the articles from the feed update (including articles that could be very old, but still present in the RSS)

Are you saying that the if the feeds have older articles still present, they will download again, regardless of the first two conditions? (I numbered your conditions list above.) If so, then that would explain the presence of articles older than 48 hours.

Slocan 2010-03-17 22:55

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 571050)
I see. Well, if you can't find a good alternative, what do you think about a preference to turn on/off "theme colors?"

It's an option, but i'd prefer just finding the right colour!

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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 571050)
Are you saying that the if the feeds have older articles still present, they will download again, regardless of the first two conditions?

That's correct. If the articles are still in the XML file that is received from the feed, they'll keep being displayed. Note that it's also partly the cause for the read/unread bug I mentioned before, so this could change.

Slocan 2010-03-18 04:00

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0.5.2-3 in extras-devel which now finds the right color for unread items from the theme. And possible fix for the Mark all as read button.

adrianmilev 2010-03-18 06:30

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0.5.2-3 installed, but I can not read individual feeds after update / refresh /.

sony123 2010-03-18 07:52

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I have the same issue here 0.5.2-3 can't open feeds. Have tried disabling webkit but issue persists.

boudjere 2010-03-18 12:52

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Same here. After the update, only feeds without unread items can be opened...

sorodoros 2010-03-18 13:07

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+1. .5.2-3 is broken .


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