Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

@vonbraun: is the app started, and the auto-update enabled (in the Preferences menu)? I can't see any reasons why the auto-update would not work if the manual one does, other than not actually being triggered.

@ffarber: the widget is a very early preview that I uploaded to extras-devel yesterday, so it doesn't really interact or do much yet (it only updates its display every 30 minutes). Double-clicking on a feed name will launch the app too.
But otherwise, the app is self-contained, so it needs to be running for the auto-update of feeds to happen. This might change in the future.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

I tried, but no messages....

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Slocan-

Thanks, I will try and leave it running to see how it works. I like the widget.

Fred

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Can you please download this to your device (save it to MyDocs for example):
http://feedingit.marcoz.org/test2.py
then connect to your mobile internet, open up the X-Term and type:
python MyDocs/test2.py
and send me the output to my email slocan @AT@ marcoz .DOT. org
Thanks.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

@dcell: I just uploaded 0.6.0-1 to extras-devel. It should fix the problem you're having with that feed.

The other main change is that the widget will now update its display as soon as the count changes in the app (either through an update, or when you close a feed after reading some articles).

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

when app is running auto update works. i first thought autoupdate worked when app is closed, which is not the case apparently.

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i see we have a loading indicator now, great! thx!

about auto update, can the widget not trigger that instead of the app so that the app doesnt need to be open? of does feedingit had a command lin argument that we can de the update through alarmd?

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I have been using alarmed with the following command: 'FeedingIt update' which opens an instance of the application and then does the update. What I would like is for a way to close the instance after the update has occurred. I am not a UNIX expert so I have not been able to figure out how to kill the python process that is started by FeedingIt from a script that I would invoke from Alarmed ten minutes later or something like that.

Any ideas?

Fred

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

As you mentioned, you could kill the process, but I really wouldn't recommend that. I'll add something so the app can be closed easily (probably sometime before the week-end).

Ultimately, now that the widget is getting somewhere, I want to create a way to update the feeds without having to open the full app, that would be triggered by the app, the widget, or an external command (and if it works out, maybe regulated by a status icon, a-la MfE sync, but let's not get carried away).

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Very cool, I will be patient!

Thanks,
Fred

P.S. I have edited this in after thinking about it. Wouldn't the easiest thing to do be adding a new command line argument that was essentially 'update and exit'? That way people could use Alarmed to set up the update to happen on any schedule they would like. This would open the full app for a period of time which would only be annoying if you were doing something else at that time. Just an idea.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

Fantastic app, thank you very much Slocan.

If you can get auto update working with just the widget running then it will be perfect.

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0.6.1-0 in Extras-devel now (once it gets built), which mostly brings the autoupdate to the widget. Note that autoupdate in the app and in the widget are independent, it's best not to enable both at once (I'll probably add something to prevent that, but for now it is still possible).
Also "FeedingIt update" does not open the app anymore (neither does the widget autoupdate).
The top of the widget has a button with some info, but it's mostly unreadable for now. It has not been tested all that much, so let me know if you encounter any weirdness or issues. Thanks.

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Fantastic, I have installed the update. It looks like you have given us two ways to do the same thing if we use Alarmed to trigger a 'feedingit update' command. I will try them and let you know how they work.

Cheers,
Fred

Edited in: I haven't been able to tell yet if updating from the widget works or not though background updating with 'FeddingIt update' does work. However, double tapping on a feed in the widget does not launch FeedingIt in this release. I hope that can be fixed.

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Just had an interesting problem. I have an alarmed command to do a 'FeedinIt update' command at specific times. Last time I ran it I did not have a network connection., FeedingIt went into a state of thinking it was doing an update perpetually. I typed this command into xtermianl:

rm /home/user/feedingit/update.lock

This removed the update state and FeedingIt is running correctly again.

Fred

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For problems related to updating and connections through proxy's there is an solution for it. It is applicable for 3g connections by KPN (dutch telco provider).

If you are fairly savy with your phone, can you edit the file /opt/FeedingIt/config.py , on line 197, and change it from:
return (True, proxy)
to:
#return (True, proxy)

After that FeedingIt is able to update through wifi and 3g.
I got this hint from Slocan (thanks for that again), I'm not exactlly sure what function is hashed out, but it works... Maybe Slocan can enlighten us?

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Your 3G connection has a proxy server defined, which FeedingIt normally checks for and uses (in some cases, ISPs will block anything not going through their proxy). By commenting it out, FeedingIt will think there isn't a proxy server defined and will connect directly instead.

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@ffarber: thanks for your feedback I'll have an improved version out in the next few days.

@cisqo,Rob1n: That's right, commenting that line disables the use of the proxy settings that were defined by the 3G connection. I have no idea why the phone would report a proxy is enabled, yet not allow connections through. I'm adding a setting in the preferences menu to disable proxy settings if needed.

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Slocan-

Thanks, I figured you were taking a few deserved days off:)

I am hoping you can reinstate the 'click in widget' functionality. The problem about updating int he background locking up the application is less important to me but may be more of an issue for others.

Thanks again!

Fred

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My days off is when I can get working on it and publish updates, so not sure I can call the past week as "days off" ;). But they were indeed filled with non-maemo stuff.

For tonight, and tomorrow, I've got this on my to-do list:
- proxy setting in the menu
- fix the double-click on the widget, and the color scheme of the top button
- better locking between widget and app for updates (and recovery when something happens)

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

Can you add this text tag fix?

dash (m-dash?) is rendering as & # 8 2 1 2 ;

Thx.

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Ah that's right, I think I finally found a way to get all of these, rather than adding them one by one as you report them. I'll add that too.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

I was going to edit my post and ask you just that, but you got to it first. :)

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

0.6.1-1 is now in Extras-devel. Let me know how that goes.

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Slocan-

Widget works great. I have not tested behavior during an update attempt while not connected but I will.

I have one other issue. When trying to access an archived article I get a file not found message of the form: /home/opt/FeedingIt/http/feedname/main/index#.php

Did I miss something earlier in the thread? Sorry if I did.

Fred

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

That's what happens when the article download didn't work. I actually pushed a small update tonight to change the User-Agent presented when downloading, as it seems some sites didn't like the default one, and that should help for the Archived Articles on some sites. But otherwise, it should work fine already. Maybe try to start up from X-term (type FeedingIt), and see if you get any messages when updating.

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Slocan-

Seems to work now, thanks for the update.

One other question, how do you remove an archived article?

Cheers,
Fred

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They expire based on the same setting as other articles once they are read. The other way is to delete the Archived Articles itself (that will remove all of them).

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

That makes sense, thanks.

Cheers,
Fred

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Excellent job Slocan, FeedingIt is really great now. I have been using 0.6.x more frequently and one minor thing I found is that when I opened a feed in portrait mode then switch to landscape mode, the width of feed listing still stuck at the width of portrait mode, i.e. the title only occupy 1/2 of the screen. Not a complaint just an observation.

Another observation is that there is a tiny bit of lag in UI responsiveness, especially when pressing the return button. I sometimes accidentally close the app due to this delay. By the way, I have 8 subscriptions.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

I can confirm the exact same issues. Actually, I've gotten used to them, they are not serious, but it would be best if they were fixed.

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Yup, I've tried a few times to fix this, but still unsuccessful so far. I still have the bug report in the tracker to nag me about it all the time :).

Yeah, the return button is slow as it is saving the read/unread status to disk (and writing to disk is very slow on a phone). That, and the memory footprint, is something I keep on improving, but it's not yet perfect.

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Is this always the ideal? I'd been thinking that a nice way to flag feeds I really like is to throw them in the archive. Maybe the cache could clear after a while, but it would be nice to keep the title and link.

(Think of it as starring in Google Reader, which btw I am finding myself using less and less thanks to FeedingIT)

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Ideal? Not at all, but it's the way I have been using it. Your use-case is interesting though, I could probably remove the automatic clean-up and make it a bit more manual to allow for that kind of use-case.

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Not sure if you implemented the "global" fix to thes text tags, but I noticed that the italic tag that was fixed is now "unfixed." :confused:

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Indeed, the em tag wasn't included in the more general fix I added. 0.6.1-6 should fix that now.
It also brings manual deletion of ArchivedArticles (either one by one in the articles themselves, or all the read items in the feed menu).

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

Thanks. Manual deletion of archived articles is a welcome addition, too.

Is there a plan to fix "mark all as read?" It's never worked for me. Or is that something you plan to work on after PR1.2, along with the web-kit browser. I am still having issues with that, too.

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

Really? What's wrong with it? It was broken at some point, but that was fixed quite a while back. Can you start FeedingIt from the command line, and try it? See if there is any message there. Thanks.

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Think I might be missing something?
I have been using the native RSS client, but thought I would give this a try. I cant get it to accept any of the feeds that work in my RSS client.
I select html reather than OPML, cut and paste the link, but it never seems to work - yet the native RSS app works with the same links.
Whats different?

Re: FeedingIt - RSS Reader
 

Make sure that your link is to the actual RSS page, and not a html page. Also, the first text entry is a name for the feed, not the URL.

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Mark all as read works for me very well.
And I second the wish for a comeback of the webkit browser- the current versions do not have it included :(